Parting ways with recruits.

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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
That is so overblown. Ford went to Gibsonton which isn't even in Tampa. We haven't done great with Tampa kids. Regardless of Ford.
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I agree. Also, If I am the parent of a future recruit that has interest in UT and the High School coach doesn't allow them on their campus, I'd be pissed and going to the school board about it. What happened to a young man ten years ago, or last year, has no bearing what so ever on a young man that may be interested in UT this year. That is an awful lot of power being freely handed over to a High School coach....if true.
 
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Weezer said:
After the Marques Ford situation, Tampa area coaches were not happy with UT. There was talk of them not letting us in to recruit. Part of the Larry Scott hire was to help mend fences. The fact he's a damn good coach, too, was an added benefit.
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Then how the heck does AL do it EVERY year multiple times and get away with it without any backlash or publicity? I know they are at the top but that shouldn't be an excuse.
 
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BaldBiker said:
I agree. Also, If I am the parent of a future recruit that has interest in UT and the High School coach doesn't allow them on their campus, I'd be pissed and going to the school board about it. What happened to a young man ten years ago, or last year, has no bearing what so ever on a young man that may be interested in UT this year. That is an awful lot of power being freely handed over to a High School coach....if true.
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There is not a high school principal in this country that doesn't want each one of his/her students to have as many opportunities at a scholarship offer as possible. It looks good for the school, not to mention the student. There is no chance that a principal would stand for this. Now, can a high school coach inform his player of his past dealings with a certain school or coaching staff and try to sway the player in another direction? Sure and I know that happens but to bar someone from the school's campus altogether and keep a potential scholarship offer away from a player? No. That doesn't happen..
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There is not a high school principal in this country that doesn't want each one of his/her students to have as many opportunities at a scholarship offer as possible. It looks good for the school, not to mention the student. There is no chance that a principal would stand for this. Now, can a high school coach inform his player of his past dealings with a certain school or coaching staff and try to sway the player in another direction? Sure and I know that happens but to bar someone from the school's campus altogether and keep a potential scholarship offer away from a player? No. That doesn't happen..
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I've seen several articles talking about certain colleges no longer permitted to visit a HS. Its the extreme, but I'm sure it happens. You can only hang so many kids out to dry before the coach tells the principal enough is enough. There are 100's of other schools. Telling 1-2 you're no longer welcome isn't a big deal. The kid could still consider the school. They just can't recruit at the school.
 
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Weezer said:
After the Marques Ford situation, Tampa area coaches were not happy with UT. There was talk of them not letting us in to recruit. Part of the Larry Scott hire was to help mend fences. The fact he's a damn good coach, too, was an added benefit.
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I don't like the way that things are. Commitments don't mean what the definition infers that they mean. Offers have categories: committable and non-committable and then you throw in blue shirts, gray shirts, and it gets crazy. I personally would like an early signing period, but I don't think that's going to happen. I wish that it was not that way, but I realize the reality of it. You are correct in that we cannot take them all. But, if the staff feels that they can "upgrade" the player, then they will tell the other player that the offer is no longer there. It happens here and many other places.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There is not a high school principal in this country that doesn't want each one of his/her students to have as many opportunities at a scholarship offer as possible. It looks good for the school, not to mention the student. There is no chance that a principal would stand for this. Now, can a high school coach inform his player of his past dealings with a certain school or coaching staff and try to sway the player in another direction? Sure and I know that happens but to bar someone from the school's campus altogether and keep a potential scholarship offer away from a player? No. That doesn't happen..
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That's what I'm saying too. Could it happen.....yeah, I guess. Is it stupid if it happens....absolutely. Should a coach be disciplined if it does. Without a doubt.
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
I've seen several articles talking about certain colleges no longer permitted to visit a HS. Its the extreme, but I'm sure it happens. You can only hang so many kids out to dry before the coach tells the principal enough is enough. There are 100's of other schools. Telling 1-2 you're no longer welcome isn't a big deal. The kid could still consider the school. They just can't recruit at the school.
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If this kid's parents told the school system's superintendent that their son/daughter was interested in a scholarship offer from a certain university - then I guarantee you that university's coaching staff would be permitted at that school regardless of what any coach said or any past dealings that may have occurred.
 
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Weezer said:
The press has started calling coaches out for this tactic. UT already got called out over Hart. Harbaugh was called out the other day for pulling a scholly to a guy who had been committed for some time. Too much of this will hurt us, so I don't think Butch would do it, not this close to NSD. If we were months away, I would say there was a good chance of that happening, but we're like a week and a half away. The bridges that would be burned aren't worth it in the long run.
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So what if coaches get called out for it? Did it hurt UM's class? Do you think Harbaugh cares? Whatever you have to do to get the best players, you do. You deal with any possible consequences as they come. God this is becoming like a broken record.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
If this kid's parents told the school system's superintendent that their son/daughter was interested in a scholarship offer from a certain university - then I guarantee you that university's coaching staff would be permitted at that school regardless of what any coach said or any past dealings that may have occurred.
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Not if the principal values his employees. At a lot of high schools the football coach is considered more valuable than the principal. Salaries point to it.
 
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Some of you act like these recruits are middle school kids whose feelings are going to get hurt. And their lives are gonna be over if they cannot get exactly what they want. Sheesh.
 
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Coaches can bar a university from recruiting on school property. It's happened in the past. Recruits get around it by having in-home visits. Believe what you want to believe, but Tampa coaches were very unhappy with UT after Ford's scholly got pulled. There was talk of keeping UT out of the area, though I'm not sure they ever decided to go to that extreme. High school coaches have a big influence on their players. They can absolutely steer kids towards or away from schools. It happens all the time.
 
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Clean up in aisle Chris Daniels thread, cleanup in aisle Chris Daniels thread please. Thanks.
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
Not if the principal values his employees. At a lot of high schools the football coach is considered more valuable than the principal. Salaries point to it.
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The superintendent values what is best for the student and the support of the student's parents more than a football coach.
 
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I figured since some on here love to invade threads and constantly bring up the same BS about early commits and scholarship pulling; there should be a thread specifically for that. That way those who like to read about the actual recuits wont have to sift through the asinine crap about commitments.

So here it is guys, your own thread. Have at it.
 
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Thanks, the Daniels thread is getting out of hand. I get that is a hot button issue. But I like reading about the actual recruit and what things are looking like, especially this time of year.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I figured since some on here love to invade threads and constantly bring up the same BS about early commits and scholarship pulling; there should be a thread specifically for that. That way those who like to read about the actual recuits wont have to sift through the asinine crap about commitments.

So here it is guys, your own thread. Have at it.
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:rock::hi:
 
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ILVFL said:
Thanks, the Daniels thread is getting out of hand. I get that is a hot button issue. But I like reading about the actual recruit and what things are looking like, especially this time of year.
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I actually posted a little about it in there. Another poster made a comment about it and I thought this would be a good place for it.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The superintendent values what is best for the student and the support of the student's parents more than a football coach.
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Sadly, you are mistaken. Most superintendents play along with the political games.
 
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Hey outofmyvolcanmind...Gibsonton is part of the Tampa Bay metro area. It is all one huge town. My route was Gibsonton, Riverview, Brandon and east and south Tampa. All one big city.
 
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