Paul Chryst fired at Wisconsin

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VolFreakJosh said:
Dabo has every reason to leave Clemson.

He’s pretty much accomplished everything there that other formal coaches haven’t done.

He’s a graduate from the University of Alabama, formal player, and has family ties in that state.

I hope it doesn’t happen but I can’t see Bama boosters going the cheap route after Saban retires.
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The first reason you gave, IMO, is a reason why he wouldn't leave Clemson. Dabo is the greatest coach in the history of that school and has an easier road to future titles there than at Alabama. If Dabo left, he wouldn't accomplish anything there that Saban or Bryant didn't also accomplish, not to mention they'd want to run his ass out of town on a rail if he failed to deliver a title within the first couple of years. He'd never walk on water at Alabama unless he did something stupid like win 5 national titles in a row.

I'm too much of a cynic to think he leaves for the second reason you gave, which is sentimental reasons. Yes, he is a Bammer, but it isn't like he doesn't have deep ties to Clemson. He's been at Clemson for much longer than he was ever at Alabama, and brought their program to its greatest heights. He'd never be the figure at Alabama that he currently is at Clemson.
 
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05_never_again said:
The first reason you gave, IMO, is a reason why he wouldn't leave Clemson. Dabo is the greatest coach in the history of that school and has an easier road to future titles there than at Alabama. If Dabo left, he wouldn't accomplish anything there that Saban or Bryant didn't also accomplish, not to mention they'd want to run his ass out of town on a rail if he failed to deliver a title within the first couple of years. He'd never walk on water at Alabama unless he did something stupid like win 5 national titles in a row.

I'm too much of a cynic to think he leaves for the second reason you gave, which is sentimental reasons. Yes, he is a Bammer, but it isn't like he doesn't have deep ties to Clemson. He's been at Clemson for much longer than he was ever at Alabama, and brought their program to its greatest heights. He'd never be the figure at Alabama that he currently is at Clemson.
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That sort of makes me think Dabo would shock people and take the Alabama job if it became available. It would be a new challenge.
 
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Jeff Clark said:
That sort of makes me think Dabo would shock people and take the Alabama job if it became available. It would be a new challenge.
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Honestly, given his recent bitching about the portal and NIL, when he leaves Clemson I think he retires. I don't really think he's up for new challenges.
 
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05_never_again said:
The first reason you gave, IMO, is a reason why he wouldn't leave Clemson. Dabo is the greatest coach in the history of that school and has an easier road to future titles there than at Alabama. If Dabo left, he wouldn't accomplish anything there that Saban or Bryant didn't also accomplish, not to mention they'd want to run his ass out of town on a rail if he failed to deliver a title within the first couple of years. He'd never walk on water at Alabama unless he did something stupid like win 5 national titles in a row.

I'm too much of a cynic to think he leaves for the second reason you gave, which is sentimental reasons. Yes, he is a Bammer, but it isn't like he doesn't have deep ties to Clemson. He's been at Clemson for much longer than he was ever at Alabama, and brought their program to its greatest heights. He'd never be the figure at Alabama that he currently is at Clemson.
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Maybe.

However, having the chance to coach at your alma mater in the SEC would be tough to turn down.

Dabo doesn’t strike me as the type of guy who only cares about being “worshipped” at a particular school.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Maybe.

However, having the chance to coach at your alma mater in the SEC would be tough to turn down.

Dabo doesn’t strike me as the type of guy who only cares about being “worshipped” at a particular school.
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He strikes me as a guy who likes being worshipped, and unless he did something completely insane and won like 6 titles in a 7 year period, he would never be worshipped at Alabama. In order to be worshipped there, he'd have to be more successful than Bear Bryant and Nick Saban. I can't say I feel bad for the guy who follows Saban, because he'll be handsomely financially rewarded no matter the outcome and he'll know what he's getting into, but man, that will feel like an impossible job.

Hell, their fans still worship Bryant more than they do Saban!
 
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Jeff Clark said:
Sometimes that doesn't work Bear Bryant wanted his successor to be Gene Stallings
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Gene Stallings went 45-5 in a four year stretch including a Natty. He was just fine. One of those years they had to forfeit a bunch of games after the fact bc of an ineligible player.

It doesn't matter though. Saban will name his successor. And I hope whoever it is fails miserably
 
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volfanhill said:
Gene Stallings went 45-5 in a four year stretch including a Natty. He was just fine. One of those years they had to forfeit a bunch of games after the fact bc of an ineligible player.

It doesn't matter though. Saban will name his successor. And I hope whoever it is fails miserably
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I remember a story where Bear Bryant in December 1980 tried to talk Pat Dye out of taking the Auburn job offering the Alabama job to him after her retired.
 
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volfanhill said:
Gene Stallings went 45-5 in a four year stretch including a Natty. He was just fine. One of those years they had to forfeit a bunch of games after the fact bc of an ineligible player.

It doesn't matter though. Saban will name his successor. And I hope whoever it is fails miserably
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After many discussions at length with folks on VN I’ve come to realize that whomever it is they’re never going to live up to the standard and the fans will be ready to fire him at the first sign of trouble
 
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Dudleys87 said:
After many discussions at length with folks on VN I’ve come to realize that whomever it is they’re never going to live up to the standard and the fans will be ready to fire him at the first sign of trouble
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The only exception to that rule i've ever read about was Frank Thomas taking over for Wallace Wade at Alabama in 1931.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
After many discussions at length with folks on VN I’ve come to realize that whomever it is they’re never going to live up to the standard and the fans will be ready to fire him at the first sign of trouble
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The Bama way
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
This is one of the most questionable firings of the past decade.

Wisconsin is just the new Nebraska. They do not have strong recruiting territory and have greatly outperformed in the past few decades relative to what should be expected of them. Chryst was 67-26. They've not been very good this year, but they could very easily hire a worse coach than Chryst. Very similar to Nebraska firing Solich.
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and Bo Pelini
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Idk. I think Frost experiment at Nebraska will be result at Wisconsin. Nebraska job is not salvageable. Wisconsin is on similar footing. Just shift in college football where teams that are consistently good slack and new good teams arise.
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We are proof you just have to hire the right coach.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I don’t know what to think about Saban retiring. I feel like he’d want to have the program in really good shape for the next guy, and I also think he’d want to go out on top. I don’t know who the next guy might be. Bama may have to go outside the Saban coaching tree to find their guy . All that said, I would fully support Nick Saban and his retirement in 2023.
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Saban won’t retire until he has a top 10-15 team, rather than top 3. That will continue as long as he turns over his roster in an aggressive manner. Once he loses his mojo, he goes.
 
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hog88 said:
I doubt it. I think they will find it harder than they think to get someone to take that job.
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Yep. In the end, they'll have to seriously money whip somebody. Which they will totally be capable of doing, they just won't want to do it. It'll be a blow to their ego that every established coach doesn't trip over themselves to take that job.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Maybe.

However, having the chance to coach at your alma mater in the SEC would be tough to turn down.

Dabo doesn’t strike me as the type of guy who only cares about being “worshipped” at a particular school.
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But would he want every decision he makes compared to what Saban would have done?
 
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