Paul the Apostle

#52
#52
tvols75 said:
Which verse(s) are you using then? You have already incorrectly laid out that Paul was referring to other apostles as false prophets, which is ridiculous in and of itself.
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What exactly are you referring to?

Sarcasm a bother for you?
 
#53
#53
OrangeEmpire said:
What exactly are you referring to?

Sarcasm a bother for you?
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Sorry my sarcasm meter is broken if everything's been said sarcastically. I was referring to you saying Paul calling the other apostles false prophets and also where Paul preached faith instead of faith and works.
 
#54
#54
tvols75 said:
Sorry my sarcasm meter is broken if everything's been said sarcastically. I was referring to you saying Paul calling the other apostles false prophets and also where Paul preached faith instead of faith and works.
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Negative, it was the other way around.

Keep up, slows the conversation.
 
#62
#62
OrangeEmpire said:
It is not my fault that you do not understand what is going on.
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I'm sorry I do not keep up with the one on ones you have with posters. I simply asked what your reasoning was behind what you said. One post would've answered that yet you would rather be sarcastic in about 10 posts while still answering nothing.
 
#63
#63
tvols75 said:
I'm sorry I do not keep up with the one on ones you have with posters. I simply asked what your reasoning was behind what you said. One post would've answered that yet you would rather be sarcastic in about 10 posts while still answering nothing.
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Wow, where to begin. The whole Paul argument is for one specific poster whom I exchange email correspondance with.

I have no idea why you cannot let something go that does not involve you.
 
#64
#64
OrangeEmpire said:
Wow, where to begin. The whole Paul argument is for one specific poster whom I exchange email correspondance with.

I have no idea why you cannot let something go that does not involve you.
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That could've been easily said in the first post. Not many posters on here can decipher if you are having an email correspondence when you said Paul rejected Jesus, accused the apostles of being false prophets, etc.. Hence, that is why I asked your basis in the first post. Carry on :hi:
 
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#65
#65
tvols75 said:
That could've been easily said in the first post. Not many posters on here can decipher if you are having an email correspondence when you said Paul rejected Jesus, accused the apostles of being false prophets, etc.. Hence, that is why I asked your basis in the first post. Carry on :hi:
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O......k
 
#66
#66
OrangeEmpire said:
O......k
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Seriously OE, you're putting this crap on this thread for the whole world to see and then acting like it's a joke.

Accusing Paul of the things in this thread is about as far from a joke as one can get.

Paul wrote half the New Testament.

Only those who want to throw stones at Christianity would reject Paul.
 
#67
#67
Volsurance said:
Seriously OE, you're putting this crap on this thread for the whole world to see and then acting like it's a joke.

Accusing Paul of the things in this thread is about as far from a joke as one can get.

Paul wrote half the New Testament.

Only those who want to throw stones at Christianity would reject Paul.
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It is a joke, now the side bet is on and you are covering.

Ty
 
#68
#68
Volsurance said:
Only those who want to throw stones at Christianity would reject Paul.
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I would reject Paul even if I were a Christian. He is ultra-legalistic, which is in direct opposition to the teachings of Christ, Peter, James, and John (the author of Revelations, not the Gospel). Jesus railed against strict rules, because it was too easy to end up worshiping the rule and losing sight of the reason for the rule; yet, Paul continually lays down very strict (and incredibly dumb) rules.

Paul's approach to Christianity is almost the antithesis of the teachings of Jesus.
 
#69
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therealUT said:
I would reject Paul even if I were a Christian. He is ultra-legalistic, which is in direct opposition to the teachings of Christ, Peter, James, and John (the author of Revelations, not the Gospel). Jesus railed against strict rules, because it was too easy to end up worshiping the rule and losing sight of the reason for the rule; yet, Paul continually lays down very strict (and incredibly dumb) rules.

Paul's approach to Christianity is almost the antithesis of the teachings of Jesus.
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Agreed
 
#74
#74
OrangeEmpire said:
He is directly talking about the apostles
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He is talking about false teachers that followed him from church to church with forged documents claiming to be from apostles, as he planted the churches, trying to enforce legalistic views from Jewish tradition as requirements for Christianity. It is the same people he spoke of in 1 Corinthians as well as Galatians. Galatians being where he specifically refers to a conference with the apostles in Jerusalem, where they re-ratified his ministry to the gentiles as well as his gospell of grace. It was the same apostles who, in their own epistle, told the church that even though Paul's teaching may seem hard to understand, he is correct and they should listen to him.

Nowhere in there does he attack the apostles, nor does he admit his conversion was a sham. This was his third letter to the Corinthian church. He was using sarcasm when claiming himself foolish, since they were following false leaders that abused them as opposed to the leader that had established them in Christ by serving them selflessly in love, just as was Christ's example. He was in fact pointing out their foolishness. Also, the reference to his own foolishness was a play on the ridiculousness that he was having to defend his humility by bragging about his humility.
 
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