Pearl is the #1 Coach in College Basketball

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tvolsfan said:
How much did Lofton improve? He was always a good three point shooter? Did he improve on defense?

Tyler Smith came in as a potential lottery pick after his sophomore year. He finished the first half of his senior year playing like garbage.

What about Hopson? Why is he driving us crazy? He's been here for long enough that the master developer of talent should have turned him into a start.

And what about Ramar Smith. Why did he regress?
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Tyler Smith wasn't that good after Lofton and Jujuan left. Without the threat of a legit three point shooter, defenses could just swarm Smith and Chism down low.

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Scotty Hopson is a sophomore playing with three transfers(two juco) and two walk ons. North Carolina currently has seven McDonald All-americans. They aren't all sophomores and even if they were, it's more talent than Hopson has around him and they suck. Just curious how everyone feels about Roy Williams?

Pearl may not have the hardware but he has an amazing resume considering the schools he has coached. All three schools he took over had a losing record I believe. If you want to talk about developing talent, UW-Milwaukee is a good reference. He took a team that had never even been to an NIT to a Sweet 16. They went dancin' twice. They also went to the NIT. That's a lot in four years for a school that had accomplished nothing prior.

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Ramar Smith? He only played two seasons and why do you say he regressed? His numbers were a little lower because he went from 27.2mpg to 21.3mpg. Give him the six minutes back and nothing changes.

It would probably help if Pearl was able to keep some of his players together longer. They are constantly getting kicked off the team and then he brings in transfers that only have a couple seasons of eligibility.

I may be wrong but aren't Wayne Chism and JP Prince the only four and five star recruits that Pearl has coached for more than two seasons? Tyler was here for 2.5 but that hurts the team more than anything because he won't be here for the tournament and other players could have used those minutes.
 
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bam15 said:
Number one coach in college basketball. :eek:lol:

Anxiously waiting for HatVol to chime in on this thread.
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Why? This thread is every bit as meaningful as a "Lady GaGa is the number 1 artist in all of music." It's the same old orange overall wearing crowd babbling about how great a win in February was.
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tabrams said:
9. Also, he has lost Tyler Smith, Duke Crews, Ramar Smith, Josh Tabb, Negedu, and others......To lose that many key players and still put together these types of teams is simply remarkable....

I challenge anyone on this board to name any other coach who has done more with less talent.......:hi:
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Didn't he recruit all of those guys? Outside of Negedu shouldn't he have realized they might become problems off the court? How highly were they thought of anyway?

JohnWardForever said:
re: Ramar and Tyler---can't blame BP for the hooch factor.
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But you can blame him for recruiting them.
 
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Pearl is not the greatest coach in the nation. I don't even know why people call him "Big game bruce." Sure, we beat Kentucky, kansas, florida, and teams like that...in the regular season. But the big games are the tournament games where choke all the time...see Wichita St. and LSU.

I absolutely love Bruce Pearl and this program is better than it has ever been before, but we can't argue that he is the best. You want to see a good coach with less talent see Kevin Stallings. Now that they are getting talent they will get real dangerous. For all the Bruce Pearl haters, what more do you want. If you expect more from a Tennessee team go root for Duke or UNC. We have never been this good of a program before, so it is stupid to expect something that has never happend.
 
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Bear Bryant said:
No offense to the OP but this fan base is starting to look like the most fair weather, manic depressive fan base in the country. After every loss there are 50 threads about how the players suck, CBP sucks and the basketball team is doomed. After every win there are 50 threads about how CBP is the best coach ever, Bobby Maize, Scotty Hopson, etc are amazing players. This is just getting old.
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Those are different people.
 
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ALock4UT said:
Pearl is not the greatest coach in the nation. I don't even know why people call him "Big game bruce." Sure, we beat Kentucky, kansas, florida, and teams like that...in the regular season. But the big games are the tournament games where choke all the time...see Wichita St. and LSU.

I absolutely love Bruce Pearl and this program is better than it has ever been before, but we can't argue that he is the best. You want to see a good coach with less talent see Kevin Stallings. Now that they are getting talent they will get real dangerous. For all the Bruce Pearl haters, what more do you want. If you expect more from a Tennessee team go root for Duke or UNC. We have never been this good of a program before, so it is stupid to expect something that has never happend.
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Exactly. How stupid for fans to want to win championships and advance past the sweet sixteen! Especially with our crappy arena and lack of resources. I guess next time we make the tourney, we should just have a parade and bump Bruce's salary to 4 million since we just shouldn't expect to do any better.
 
#57
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ALock4UT said:
We have never been this good of a program before, so it is stupid to expect something that has never happend.
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I wish Florida had taken that ridiculous attitude in football about 1989.
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hmanvolfan said:
Didn't he recruit all of those guys? Outside of Negedu shouldn't he have realized they might become problems off the court? How highly were they thought of anyway?


But you can blame him for recruiting them.
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Talking and dressing stupid isn't a good way to judge someone.

If there is no record of them having been in trouble and they are polite when they are talking to him... what's he suppose to do?

Marvin Harrison appeared to be a class act for like 20 years. Suddenly he is at the end of his career and a bunch of witnesses claim he shot someone.

Pearl couldn't have known Tyler Smith had a gun with the numbers scratched off.

Wasn't Ramar and Crews just pot? Big deal if so. Most high school/college kids do it.
 
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The_Orange_Pearl said:
Talking and dressing stupid isn't a good way to judge someone.

If there is no record of them having been in trouble and they are polite when they are talking to him... what's he suppose to do?

Marvin Harrison appeared to be a class act for like 20 years. Suddenly he is at the end of his career and a bunch of witnesses claim he shot someone.

Pearl couldn't have known Tyler Smith had a gun with the numbers scratched off.

Wasn't Ramar and Crews just pot? Big deal if so. Most high school/college kids do it.
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Yeah, it's coincidence a bunch of schools suddenly stopped recruiting Smith and Crews.
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hmanvolfan said:
Didn't he recruit all of those guys? Outside of Negedu shouldn't he have realized they might become problems off the court? How highly were they thought of anyway?


But you can blame him for recruiting them.
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Ramar and Duke were 5 star players.
 
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alumvol08 said:
Exactly. How stupid for fans to want to win championships and advance past the sweet sixteen! Especially with our crappy arena and lack of resources. I guess next time we make the tourney, we should just have a parade and bump Bruce's salary to 4 million since we just shouldn't expect to do any better.
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I didn't say "want." I said "expect." The Pearl haters are upset because we aren't doing something that we haven't done before. That's just stupid. I believe we should have gone further than the sweet 16 a couple times, and I also think we should have won the SEC tourney a couple of times, but that doesn't mean I hate Pearl because it didn't happen.

We never win those kinds of things so why do fans "expect" us to, and then hate Pearl for not doing it even though he has already pushed our program further than it is have ever been? It's just doesn't make sense to me.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Yeah, it's coincidence a bunch of schools suddenly stopped recruiting Smith and Crews.
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Ramar Smith? Scout shows his only offers were from Tennessee, Arkansas and Miami.

Duke Crews though... North Carolina, Kentucky, Illinois, Georgetown, Florida, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech and Xavier all offered.

Looks like schools were right not to offer Ramar Smith. He ended up robbing people after he was kicked off the team. Duke Crews on the other hand was only around some pot though. It doesn't appear other schools were that worried about his character. Pearl pry should have saw the writing on the wall with Ramar but I don't think he could have known about Tyler and Duke.
 
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ALock4UT said:
I didn't say "want." I said "expect." The Pearl haters are upset because we aren't doing something that we haven't done before. That's just stupid. I believe we should have gone further than the sweet 16 a couple times, and I also think we should have won the SEC tourney a couple of times, but that doesn't mean I hate Pearl because it didn't happen.

We never win those kinds of things so why do fans "expect" us to, and then hate Pearl for not doing it even though he has already pushed our program further than it is have ever been? It's just doesn't make sense to me.
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When UT devotes the resources, has the fan base, and pays Pearl the salary we should expect to go farther in the post season. Just because we have never done it before is not a valid argument for not expecting it. I'm not saying we should fire the man if we get put out by a better team. What I am saying is that the fans should expect to be competing for post season life past the round of 16.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
re: Ramar and Tyler---can't blame BP for the hooch factor.
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Yes you can. It's college athletics. You can blame everything on the coach, and guess what? You're always right.

gorockytop101 said:
this thread could get interesting... I love Bruce, but I also think coaches should be judged on what happens in March.
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This little nugget seems to be lost in all the banter. Best post of the thread, none of you are going to top it, stop trying.

rickyyrs said:
Calipari could not do this, He has had more talent than Pearl when he was at Memphis and now Ky and is 3-3 against Pearl
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Comparing the careers of Cal and Bruce Pearl? :crazy:

hatvol96 said:
Why? This thread is every bit as meaningful as a "Lady GaGa is the number 1 artist in all of music." It's the same old orange overall wearing crowd babbling about how great a win in February was.
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Pretty much. I still hope Bruce can elevate the hell out of the program, and while it's a definite upgrade to the years prior to that, I'm giving him until next season to make it to the end of the second weekend before I start to lose faith in whether or not he's the man to deliver.

It could be that he's not the guy to do it. Or maybe Tennessee simply can't attract the kind of one-and-done talent and higher-quality long term prospects needed to make multiple Final Fours. Who knows.
 
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tabrams said:
Too many reasons why it's true.......

1. Beats #2 team in country with star player playing injured and best player thrown off team.......

2. Beats #1 team in country with half the team suspended, and best player thrown off team........

3. Develops team and talent at a joke-of-a-basketball school.......

4. 5 straight NCAA tournaments, 2 sweet sixteens......

5. averaging almost 75% winning percentage.....

6. 8-2 record against gators

7. Beat 2 teams that won NC, and one that got to finals during regular season

8. Did all this with only 1 NBA player to date.......

9. Also, he has lost Tyler Smith, Duke Crews, Ramar Smith, Josh Tabb, Negedu, and others......To lose that many key players and still put together these types of teams is simply remarkable....

I challenge anyone on this board to name any other coach who has done more with less talent.......:hi:
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George Mason made a Final Four with less talent. Challenge accepted.
 
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Coach Pearl has done an OUTSTANDING job at UT! Give him tiem and recruits in the next couple of years and the motiviation he instills in players, he'll have the Vols in the top 5 teams in the country and maybe a National Championship. One only knows the possibilities Coach Pearl can do at KNOXVILLE.
 
#73
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tabrams said:
but was he more consistent? doubt it..... :hi:
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More consistent than what? Pearl has never reached the level Larranaga has. Larranaga has won multiple conference tournaments and regular season titles. Pearl was never won a D-1 post season tournament so I guess that means he is more consistent than Pearl.
 
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JZVOL said:
More consistent than what? Pearl has never reached the level Larranaga has. Larranaga has won multiple conference tournaments and regular season titles. Pearl was never won a D-1 post season tournament so I guess that means he is more consistent than Pearl.
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He had a 9-18 year........:eek:lol: Nice try, but not even close........... :crazy:
 
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