Pelosi visit to Taiwan

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EasternVol said:
To start with it would really strengthen the PRC, whose aim it is to dominate the West. They're still pissed about the Opium Wars and the whole colonialism thing, not that I blame them.
We'd lose a very strategic trading partner.
It would also really further damage our credibility re alliances.
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Timely video from today. Take it for what it is worth.

 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Agaian... this is a self-inflicted wound by pizz poor leadership. Why is the answer to stir up war?
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China could have used the income to the advantage of their own people - descendants of the ones Mao seduced. Instead they built a military to threaten our friends and allies in the region. Capture of Taiwan is tantamount to electronic economic blackmail for us and much of the rest of the world. In fact, if you look at chips (the ones that used to have numbers and manufacturing location), the bulk are built within China's reach - Taiwan, S Korea, Malaysia, and so on. You see preparing to check China as warmongering; a lot of the rest of us see it as a no choice option - either capitulation to China or back to the electronic Stone Age. You are right; it was a self inflicted wound resulting from poor leadership ... and greed. Globalism doesn't work for a country with the highest standard of living and labor cost - and that was pretty simple to diagnose even before trade treaties were signed.
 
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AM64 said:
China could have used the income to the advantage of their own people - descendants of the ones Mao seduced. Instead they built a military to threaten our friends and allies in the region. Capture of Taiwan is tantamount to electronic economic blackmail for us and much of the rest of the world. In fact, if you look at chips (the ones that used to have numbers and manufacturing location), the bulk are built within China's reach - Taiwan, S Korea, Malaysia, and so on. You see preparing to check China as warmongering; a lot of the rest of us see it as a no choice option - either capitulation to China or back to the electronic Stone Age. You are right; it was a self inflicted wound resulting from poor leadership ... and greed. Globalism doesn't work for a country with the highest standard of living and labor cost - and that was pretty simple to diagnose even before trade treaties were signed.
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You act as though the Chinese are the only ones that take advantage of their own citizens... have you looked at America over the last 50 years? That is the very reason why the traitors that run our country sold out American industry to the Chinese because they didn't want to pay American wages. And WTF do you think we are doing right now with our military spending here in America? Eisenhower spke about us robbing from our own by the MIC.

Stop virtue signaling.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You act as though the Chinese are the only ones that take advantage of their own citizens... have you looked at America over the last 50 years? That is the very reason why the traitors that run our country sold out American industry to the Chinese because they didn't want to pay American wages. And WTF do you think we are doing right now with our military spending here in America? Eisenhower spke about us robbing from our own by the MIC.

Stop virtue signaling.
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Whatever that means.

It's not a one way street on US wages. Labor had a lot to do with inflationary wage demands and the rules are weighted in their favor. There is a tipping point and they surpassed it. So, yes, our industrial leaders sold us out, but labor had a lot to do with that, and the art of buying votes by pandering to labor had a lot to do with that. As you said earlier bad leadership - widely distributed poor choices.

Have you thought that the reason military spending is so high is that the bulk is built by US labor, and those companies do pay American wages? Have you also thought that the defense industry provides a lot of US jobs; there are benefits; the money doesn't just get poured into a hole in the ground. Could we do better? Absolutely, and if you've paid attention, I've been very critical of our overly complex military hardware. Stuff that's too critical to lose in battle and likely too complex to keep operating in remote locations - even if we have the logistics for support.
 
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AM64 said:
Whatever that means.

It's not a one way street on US wages. Labor had a lot to do with inflationary wage demands and the rules are weighted in their favor. There is a tipping point and they surpassed it. So, yes, our industrial leaders sold us out, but labor had a lot to do with that, and the art of buying votes by pandering to labor had a lot to do with that. As you said earlier bad leadership - widely distributed poor choices.

Have you thought that the reason military spending is so high is that the bulk is built by US labor, and those companies do pay American wages? Have you also thought that the defense industry provides a lot of US jobs; there are benefits; the money doesn't just get poured into a hole in the ground. Could we do better? Absolutely, and if you've paid attention, I've been very critical of our overly complex military hardware. Stuff that's too critical to lose in battle and likely too complex to keep operating in remote locations - even if we have the logistics for support.
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No, the reason why is because the MIC takes advantage of their position and know that they can get the dems or GOP to write blank checks for any pet project they want.

And for you to think that the defense industry offering a lot of US jobs is a good thing vs other sectors revolving around peace time industries (toilet paper, eggs, aluminum, chicken wings, chips for cars, concrete... you know, s^^t that we've seen shortages in over the past 2+ years) shows you have no idea how a real economy should work.
 
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