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#102
but your comparison has constantly been w/ UF, who doesn't stand a chance against Michigan.... only team who remotely stands a chance against them is USC IMO. they may be the best fourth quarter team in history. That being said, I also believe Michigan would still beat USC
 
#103
#103
volfanbill said:
but your comparison has constantly been w/ UF, who doesn't stand a chance against Michigan.... only team who remotely stands a chance against them is USC IMO. they may be the best fourth quarter team in history. That being said, I also believe Michigan would still beat USC
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I was just using UF as my example and playing devil's advocate. I could not care less about UF, just don't think UM being number 2 is as cut and dry as people believe.
 
#104
#104
so who is number 2? my argument is while UM has weaknesses, every other team has bigger weaknesses. fwiw, OSU has weaknesses, just so good they can overpower it against anyone.
 
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volfanbill said:
so who is number 2? my argument is while UM has weaknesses, every other team has bigger weaknesses. fwiw, OSU has weaknesses, just so good they can overpower it against anyone.
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Why do I have to know who number 2 is? I am of the feeling there is no solid number 2. So I prefer another potential number 2 get their shot since UM got their shot.
 
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#106
so Mich loses their shot at a national title because they barely lost to a great team on the road? USC lost their game to a crappy team on the road. Arkansas lost their game to a really good team at home in A BLOWOUT. florida hasn't played consistently enough to earn a shot over Michigan. Michigan blew out ND at ND so throw out ND. who's left? WVU? please. Louisville? pretty please. I hate Michigan. But i can't deny they are the number two team in the country
 
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volfanbill said:
so Mich loses their shot at a national title because they barely lost to a great team on the road? USC lost their game to a crappy team on the road. Arkansas lost their game to a really good team at home in A BLOWOUT. florida hasn't played consistently enough to earn a shot over Michigan. Michigan blew out ND at ND so throw out ND. who's left? WVU? please. Louisville? pretty please. I hate Michigan. But i can't deny they are the number two team in the country
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So what if they barely beat OSU in the title game, using your reasoning, OSU should lose the title because they lost to a great UM team at a neutral site?

You might not be able to deny they are the #2 team to yourself, but you also can't prove it.
 
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#108
so basically you've debated all night w/out you having any answer? I dont' know what more I can do to prove it, Michigan is the second best team this year. Losing to a great team at a neutral site is a lot different than losing to a great team on the road...
 
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volfanbill said:
so Mich loses their shot at a national title because they barely lost to a great team on the road? USC lost their game to a crappy team on the road. Arkansas lost their game to a really good team at home in A BLOWOUT. florida hasn't played consistently enough to earn a shot over Michigan. Michigan blew out ND at ND so throw out ND. who's left? WVU? please. Louisville? pretty please. I hate Michigan. But i can't deny they are the number two team in the country
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Yeah. They look like the second best team. And you compare the 1-loss teams...who they lost to and how much, its easy. Michigan IS the second best team.
Also, dont forget that with their inconsisten play, Florida also lost to a 2-loss team (Auburn) that isnt really all that good.
 
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volfanbill said:
so Mich loses their shot at a national title because they barely lost to a great team on the road? USC lost their game to a crappy team on the road. Arkansas lost their game to a really good team at home in A BLOWOUT. florida hasn't played consistently enough to earn a shot over Michigan. Michigan blew out ND at ND so throw out ND. who's left? WVU? please. Louisville? pretty please. I hate Michigan. But i can't deny they are the number two team in the country
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Michigan had their shot and are now tied for 2nd place in thier own conf. If another big 10 school is going to the BCS for a NT...i'd take a look at Wisconsin...they haven't played OSU and they also have 1 loss in conf....to Michigan.

at least USC has a shot to be a 1 loss conf. champion playing another conf. champion for the NT. and usc's schedule this year is nothing to sneeze at. they did beat ark at ark, they beat neb and will have probably beaten ND....so, that's 2 division winners in the SEC and Big 12 (both of whom still have chances to win their respective conferences and finish the season in the top 5 (ark) or 10 (neb). ND is ranked in the top 10 right now, and probalby will finish that way and will also go to a BCS bowl. 1 loss in conf. or not...their ooc schedule this year is more than respectable and is more deserving than Mich. So if USC wins out..they're in more than likely.

should USC lose one of the last two, then imo, that opens the door for a 1 loss SEC champ, be it ARk or FL, with ARK having the most work to do with LSU coming up this weekend.

the scenario that locks up Michigan in a rematch in my opinion is USC has to lose one of the remaining two, ARK loses to LSU and ARK beats UF in the SEC CG. then you're down to a choice between a 1 loss Michigan team and a 1 loss Big East champ, probably WVU.
I think ND is out regardless...they won't jump Michigan in any poll. Actually i should say, ND SHOULD be out regardless...because of how they got throttled by Michigan, so ND shouldn't jump Mich in any scenario. but stranger things have happened.
 
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