Per sources, some guys played last night knowing they were leaving

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Volinnooga said:
I am not sure how much of the OP info is correct. Harrison is going to the portal but I am not sure who else.

And this may not be a popular opinion, but if a guy is leaving and wants to go out with his teammates one last time, and he is there to play for those teammates, that doesn't bother me. Most players know whether they are ready to go or whether they want to be with their teamamtes on the national stage one last time, and those guys know whether thay are invested for the game or not. Some are ready to bail and some want one more battle.
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Jayson Jenkins in the portal now as well and he played Saturday night.
 
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BreatheUT said:
The world has changed in many ways since covid. We can argue for good or for bad. One of the things that came out of it was that additional year. That seemed to be the first domino.

I attend UT sporting events less and less because it is becoming so dang expensive yet if you want to compete with the Joneses then you gotta help pay.

I think real changes will be made if fans stop watching but it would have to be college football fans collectively. One or two fan bases aren't going to risk their school falling behind to other schools.

I'm not against guys making money but I said years ago these would lead to disastrous consequences if/when you started basically bidding on players. Add to the the mess the portal has created in recent years, then it really isn't about amateur athletics or "student" athlete at all anymore.
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The only answer there ever was to all this mess and killing the student athlete was to ammend scholarships to provide a monthly spending account. A decent one to boot. But, equal for all. College rosters is not the place to have an $8 mil QB and a $25K lineman. 18-20 year olds are not prepared for that dynamic. The NCAA had opportunties for decades to make this happen the right way. My kid got me tickets a couple years for my B-day. First to SC at home. Then GA. Maybe CJH's 1st year on the GA game. Too expensive now. And the cost per opponent is broad. We had front row behind the recruit mat for SC. For UGA, were last row against the wall on opponent side. One row high and we'd have been upper level. And those were 3 times the SC tickets.

But, for his thoughtfullness I got him addicted to Gus' deli.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Like any other endeavor, what people will pay is what it's worth. It's not like these players CREATED this market that pays them big money to play, it's been going on for decades and decades.

That the market exploded when it became legal is what markets sometimes do. It'll probably "bust" at some point but it's hard to fault players for taking what's offered.

Is it good for the sport? Not at all. Is it wrong for them to get paid? Not at all. It's how America has always worked. People pay some people a lot of money for some services. I can't help but say good for them and God Bless America.
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All that may be true, and there's alot of opinions on these guys making this money as freshmen even that have earned nothing. But, don't be pro money and pro portal, but expect some kind of miracle on the field when no one is invested in team dynamics anymore. There will be no more dynasties past what a collective can afford to provide each year. And those schools will be minimal. There will be no more roster devlopment. Only purchases. Everyone can take their marbles and go at any time.
 
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wmcovol said:
Knowing they were leaving after the season ends. Some even have deals with other schools already set.

Todays CFB really is screwed up
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As I've said elsewhere here in the last 5 months or so, NIL and portal have exposed the lie we all wanted to believe for so long, which was that the players had some sense of loyalty to the school they signed with. Some pride in where they decided to go.

But for the top level players, that was a facade and what they really cared about was the NFL. Now, all five stars, all four stars, and some percentage of the three stars consider themselves free agents every December, and they will follow the money. The teams that pony it up, are the ones who will emerge every year for the playoffs.

Just a matter of time before the players are wearing sponsorship patches and the game will look like a bunch of NASCAR drivers playing flag football.
 
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GVF said:
All that may be true, and there's alot of opinions on these guys making this money as freshmen even that have earned nothing. But, don't be pro money and pro portal, but expect some kind of miracle on the field when no one is invested in team dynamics anymore. There will be no more dynasties past what a collective can afford to provide each year. And those schools will be minimal. There will be no more roster devlopment. Only purchases. Everyone can take their marbles and go at any time.
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I'm not pro money or pro portal but if we're pro winning at the level we're winning at now, that's the route we'll be taking.

Like it? Not at all. I never liked some things I did for my work either but I did them because that's how the game worked and I wanted to give my family the things my job let me give them.

College football isn't some magical world that exists away from the rest of human existence. If you want a really nice team, you pay for it just like you pay for a really nice home.

If you decide it's less important than you thought it was to have a really nice home and more important to put that money toward educating the kids, you don't invest as much in the house and put money into family.

That's the choice with college football. It's not different than most of my life.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Every team during bowl season has a few guys who played but plan on transferring. Why are we pretending this is odd?
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And if there weren't going to be locked in they would've hit the road already. They want to increase value/stock and risk injury playing for a team knowing they won't be back. They have something to gain by playing well in that game and something to lose by not playing well. I highly doubt they're out there tanking, if that's the insinuation.
 
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College Football has turned into every school fielding the best mercenaries for hire they can afford each year.

Expecting 17-22 year old’s to show honor and respect for these institutions now that most are getting paid more than the school’s faculty is an absolute joke.
 
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This is not going to be unique to Tennessee. I guarantee there are players on UGA, Ohio State, PSU, and Oregon that already know they are transferring when the season ends. It doesn’t mean they tanked or didn’t give effort, it’s just part of big time college football. When you recruit top classes and stack players, the 2nd and 3rd teamers often are 4 star guys who want to play. This isn’t a culture issue, it's just part of the landscape now.
 
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Orangepantsforever said:
I disagree a bit. I think we all like to believe that they’re all about winning, but I think the main driving force is money. It’s that way for most everyone, whether a collegiate or professional. Not a slam towards the player, but I just think that’s it. I truly believe that the athletes would leave a contender for anyone, if the money was right. Just the way of the world.
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I’ve been employed at my company for damn near 14 years. I would leave tomorrow if another company contacted me and offered to double my pay and benefits.
 
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08Vol said:
I’ve been employed at my company for damn near 14 years. I would leave tomorrow if another company contacted me and offered to double my pay and benefits.
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I agree 100%, but a lot of folks like to romanticize about these guys just wanting to “go to a contender”, and be all about competing and winning. I disagree. Right or wrong, the money is the motivating factor. They’d go play for Kent State, if the money was right. Not knocking anyone, they just aren’t all about the noble team task of winning.
 
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volfeeva said:
The bad thing is I don't hear a lot of possible solutions being offered by NCAA or any other outlet that can remedy this. Maybe just offer every player a base salary so they are at least not being left off the payroll.
The NCAA fined Ohio St and Michigan $100k each for the melee that happened at the end of their game. Where does that money go ?
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The NCAA is banking on Congress to bail them out of this mess. I don't see it happening but that's what the NCAA wants.
 
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