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USAFgolferVol said:
How many Ivy League grads do you actually know personally?

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Since I hung out with engineers and other people who actually make or do things, none that I know of; and I certainly don't consider it a loss. Considering where a lot of theories about education and other facets of life originate and how we've "advanced", perhaps you can fill us in on the ivy league contribution to life.
 
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AM64 said:
That's true, but I think the good ole boy ivy league network keeps the pump working. After all, how would all the insignificant shrubs and juniors make their way into important places if they had to work at it? Most don't know how to do much of anything other than talk. Other than perhaps medical degrees, it's hard to see where the ivy leagues add real value if you take away the prestige and networking factors.
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Agree 100%
 
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AM64 said:
Since I hung out with engineers and other people who actually make or do things, none that I know of; and I certainly don't consider it a loss. Considering where a lot of theories about education and other facets of life originate and how we've "advanced", perhaps you can fill us in on the ivy league contribution to life.
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"Most don't know how to do much of anything". I was thinking such a statement would be made by someone who actually knew, but actually it was you just rambling on about something for which you actually have no clue. Some of the Ivys have great engineering schools.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
"Most don't know how to do much of anything". I was thinking such a statement would be made by someone who actually knew, but actually it was you just rambling on about something for which you actually have no clue. Some of the Ivys have great engineering schools.
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With the money available and the choice of students (especially foreign students), I'd be surprised if ivys didn't have good good engineering schools. However, I've seen few real contributions (none actually come to mind) in industry working groups. I'd bet you would find more are groomed for engineering management positions than real technical engineering achievement. That's observation from a career in nuclear engineering. I will say I have been inside a fusion reactor at Princeton ... but that was over 30 years ago - in deference to the standing joke that fusion power is always 30 years away.
 
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AM64 said:
With the money available and the choice of students (especially foreign students), I'd be surprised if ivys didn't have good good engineering schools. However, I've seen few real contributions (none actually come to mind) in industry working groups. I'd bet you would find more are groomed for engineering management positions than real technical engineering achievement. That's observation from a career in nuclear engineering. I will say I have been inside a fusion reactor at Princeton ... but that was over 30 years ago - in deference to the standing joke that fusion power is always 30 years away.
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You’re a nuke engineer?
 
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AM64 said:
Yes. BS and MS from UT.
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I did 2 years in NE at UT. But I was a terrible student after breezing thru a rural HS and feeling like a genius the whole time, I got to UT and did not know how to study. Became a business major. My older brother has his BS from UT in NE.
 
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VolStrom said:
My company made a big deal of hiring several Harvard MBAs 20 years or so ago so they could "modernize" our company. They gave these 25 year olds a tremendous job grade and sent them out to some of the largest plants the company had and gave them the power to "fix" them. A couple of years later, every one of them had been fired after the F'd up every thing they tried to implement.
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I have to agree. No matter where u come from, you are at bottom of ladder and need to progress. You learn so much and that paper does not match reality
 
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allvol123 said:
I did 2 years in NE at UT. But I was a terrible student after breezing thru a rural HS and feeling like a genius the whole time, I got to UT and did not know how to study. Became a business major. My older brother has his BS from UT in NE.
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I didn't start in NE, and didn't switch to NE until I returned in 1972 after quitting school and joining the Army. I graduated in 1976 - but really finished all the requirements and was off working by graduation day. I haven't kept up a lot with the program since then, but Pete Pasqua was the department head at the time - and a fantastic teacher. The NE building was later named for him. I'm always amazed at how many of us weren't ready for college but still somehow managed to blunder our way along until we figured some things out.
 
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AM64 said:
I didn't start in NE, and didn't switch to NE until I returned in 1972 after quitting school and joining the Army. I graduated in 1976 - but really finished all the requirements and was off working by graduation day. I haven't kept up a lot with the program since then, but Pete Pasqua was the department head at the time - and a fantastic teacher. The NE building was later named for him. I'm always amazed at how many of us weren't ready for college but still somehow managed to blunder our way along until we figured some things out.
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That my friend..is awesome
 
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Orangeburst said:
That my friend..is awesome
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Thanks. I was headed for failure in thermodynamics my junior year until the third quarter when the professor was pulled away by the Navy Reserve as I recall. Dr Pasqua stepped in and just had a way of leading you to learning a point - not at all the thing about memorizing and accepting this case or that case. That made all the difference to me; it's so important to work through a process than to simply present it, and few teachers really seem to have that ability. I give Dr Pasqua all the credit for rescuing my educational "career".
 
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AM64 said:
Thanks. I was headed for failure in thermodynamics my junior year until the third quarter when the professor was pulled away by the Navy Reserve as I recall. Dr Pasqua stepped in and just had a way of leading you to learning a point - not at all the thing about memorizing and accepting this case or that case. That made all the difference to me; it's so important to work through a process than to simply present it, and few teachers really seem to have that ability. I give Dr Pasqua all the credit for rescuing my educational "career".
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Interesting you had such a great experience with him. I feel the opposite about Dr. Kerlin, hope I am remembering his name correctly. He was the department head and I was floundering and my recollection was he really dgaf.
 
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allvol123 said:
Interesting you had such a great experience with him. I feel the opposite about Dr. Kerlin, hope I am remembering his name correctly. He was the department head and I was floundering and my recollection was he really dgaf.
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Yep. Kerlin was a weird one. I really liked the courses, but I had an absolutely terrible track record on his tests. I could never figure the problem out; I could explain things to help people who made good grades in his courses, but I couldn't make good grades in them. Then one day he did something that absolutely stunned me. I had decided to get a graduate degree in Engineering Management and needed some backup to be accepted because I hadn't actually worked as an engineer. I mentioned it to him as we were walking up the stairs, and he stopped and looked at me and said I belonged in the NE graduate program. Then he went on to say that there are people who simply don't do well grade wise in school but understand and will do better than a lot of people who do, and then told me I was one of those. He was the last person I could imagine telling me something like that. I always thought he was too removed and too "arrogant" to even consider thinking or saying something like that. That is one of those times you never forget.
 
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AM64 said:
Yep. Kerlin was a weird one. I really liked the courses, but I had an absolutely terrible track record on his tests. I could never figure the problem out; I could explain things to help people who made good grades in his courses, but I couldn't make good grades in them. Then one day he did something that absolutely stunned me. I had decided to get a graduate degree in Engineering Management and needed some backup to be accepted because I hadn't actually worked as an engineer. I mentioned it to him as we were walking up the stairs, and he stopped and looked at me and said I belonged in the NE graduate program. Then he went on to say that there are people who simply don't do well grade wise in school but understand and will do better than a lot of people who do, and then told me I was one of those. He was the last person I could imagine telling me something like that. I always thought he was too removed and too "arrogant" to even consider thinking or saying something like that. That is one of those times you never forget.
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That’s a good story.
 
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AM64 said:
With the money available and the choice of students (especially foreign students), I'd be surprised if ivys didn't have good good engineering schools. However, I've seen few real contributions (none actually come to mind) in industry working groups. I'd bet you would find more are groomed for engineering management positions than real technical engineering achievement. That's observation from a career in nuclear engineering. I will say I have been inside a fusion reactor at Princeton ... but that was over 30 years ago - in deference to the standing joke that fusion power is always 30 years away.
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Close friend of mine is a Yale grad, civil engineering. Masters Vanderbilt, Mechanical. After a stint at a firm in Florida, took over flailing CE company and built them to one of the most sought after companies in the Murfreesboro and Nashville area. He still does most of the design work on major projects as Owner/ CEO. It's a 9 figure company
 
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NCFisher said:
The Daily Stormer? I can't insult your intellect more than you just did. Again, Milk was not killed for his sexuality, nor can I walk back something YOU said. The issue is child predation, not the relations of adult gays, you bomb-throwing goof.



And it's a bit more than than "one allegation".



He had an active gay sex life by age 14. Milk's personal friend and biographer, SF Chronicle reporter and "gay historian" Randy Shilts in his 1982 bio "Mayor of Castro Street", relates "Harvey always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems”. He wrote Milk became had a live-in relationship with a 16 y.o. named Galen Jack McKinley when he was 33; there's a Christmas photo of them in the public domain released by Milk's estate. Shilts bio is unchallenged. Because no one really cares, and no one in the gay community accuses him of being a of neo-Nazi.



The Gerard Dols family filed a complaint with the MInnesota AG that MIlk had told their 17-yo son to run away to SF, with the letter of instructions Milk sent to their son. Gerard Dols has related this numerous times. He said he spoke to Milk's 25 y.o. lover Jack Lira on the phone regarding flight plans: Lira accused him of coming to steal MIlk away from him and committed suicide that evening.



These aren't secrets in the gay community, or to the left. Now, bring me THAT on Gaetz and you'll have a point. Gaetz is being investigated; Milk never was.
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Lmao. Not content with tacitly endorsing murder, you’re now resorting to unsupported innuendo. How about you post a link to whatever you’re copy and pasting from about Gerard Dols so I can determine whether you’re lying or being lied to…. Lol, actually, don’t bother, we’ve been over your abhorrent credibility before and it’s only gotten worse in our last two conversations.
Apparently saying humiliatingly wrong things, realizing it, and then pretending you knew all along is your kink. So let’s just skip to the part where you google Dols’ own account and then claim you weren’t insinuating what you’re clearly insinuating. I’ll do you a favor and pretend like it all shouldn’t have been super obvious when you had to type the phrases “reported to the AG” and “never investigated” in the same post.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Lmao. Not content with tacitly endorsing murder, you’re now resorting to unsupported innuendo. How about you post a link to whatever you’re copy and pasting from about Gerard Dols so I can determine whether you’re lying or being lied to…. Lol, actually, don’t bother, we’ve been over your abhorrent credibility before and it’s only gotten worse in our last two conversations.
Apparently saying humiliatingly wrong things, realizing it, and then pretending you knew all along is your kink. So let’s just skip to the part where you google Dols’ own account and then claim you weren’t insinuating what you’re clearly insinuating. I’ll do you a favor and pretend like it all shouldn’t have been super obvious when you had to type the phrases “reported to the AG” and “never investigated” in the same post.
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Just a minute there, Sparky and let's recall your initial post:
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Yeah that’s the guy you think deserved to be murdered based on one unsubstantiated accusation from an unabashed homophobe? You’re ****ed in the head, dude.

Must have overlooked your posts on the Matt Gaetz thread.
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Obviously, Shilts - gay reporter & historian, friend, and biographer of Milk - is none of those things. So, not only is the case of 16 y.o. MD runaway Jack McKinley not an "unsubstantiated accusation", no one takes umbrage with it or his writings re: Milk's preoccupation with teenagers and young men. McKinley alone fills the prescription for Milk as pederast. Full stop.

"McKinley had lived with O’Horgan for only a few weeks when he came in one day to announce that a handsome businessman twice his age was vying for his affection.

O’Horgan dismissed the news, thinking Jack was trying to make him jealous. He was relieved when the suitor materialized, since he was already worried that the sixteen-year-old McKinley was looking for some kind of father figure. If Jack was indeed dangling the new boyfriend merely to tempt O’Horgan’s devotion, Jack had vastly underestimated his new pursuer’s tenacity.

Within a few weeks, McKinley moved into Harvey Milk’s Upper West Side apartment. They bought a dog they named Trick, a cat they called Trade, and settled into a middle-class domestic marriage. At thirty-three, Milk was launching a new life, though he could hardly have imagined the unlikely direction toward which his new lover would pull him." -- Again, Milk - 33 yo; McKinley - 16 yo. The Mayor of Castro Street: The Life and Times of Harvey Milk by Randy Shilts Pdf Read Online

Dols talks about his association with Milk here: Gerard Dols, self-proclaimed "Boy from Minnesota" in Milk biopic, weighs in on Rev. Ryan Muehlhauser pray-away-gay sex assaults - Bluestem Prairie (about 60% down the page) I don't see that he ever met Milk but states he spoke with Milk a handful of times and was sent a plane ticket 10 days before his 18th birthday. He says Anne Kronenberg called him and told him not to come because Jack Lira, Milk's current boyfriend had just killed himself the night before; Dols says he had spoken with him that night. He flew to LA instead and was put up by gay activist and Milk friend Don Amador. Months later, Milk was killed.

Please, don't relent pretending on my account. Again, where did I "tacitly endorse murder"? Right; you leapt to that conclusion, and that I'm a neo-Nazi subscribing homophobe. Atta' boy, slugger. I'd bet "Objection! - wild-eyed speculation" and "Sustained" haunt your sleep, don't they?
 
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Isn't government awesome. Someone gets a high level position which is 99.999% temporary and they can't stick around long enough to even do that. They have to take OUR money and 'raise children'. You can't make this idiocy up. I am guessing he/she will get a pension as well now that he/she is 'serving' in government.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
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