Peyton's Status in Indy

[n_huffhines]

Peyton should go to the Niners.

49ers or Houston are the best from his perspective. I like Houston best (A Johnson + Foster, he knows the division, indoor field).

 

[n_huffhines]

I don't count rookies as being able to make a team a contender.

I say they have to take Luck no matter what. By all accounts he is the next Peyton or Elway. You can't pass on him and keep a 36 year old coming off 3 neck surgeries.

Rookies taken in first 3 rounds are usually expected to contribute right away. They don't always, but if you have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds, you should be looking for about 3 of them to contribute in the first year.

 

[TrueOrange]

49ers or Houston are the best from his perspective. I like Houston best (A Johnson + Foster, he knows the division, indoor field).

Yeah, unfortunately I'm not sure he's best from their perspective though

 

[n_huffhines]

...and why exactly would the rams and Vikings even be considering RG3?

They both have their QB of the futures; that's an area of least concern

I would say Ponder is a big question mark, and Bradford had a sophomore slump of a year. Some are saying RGIII could be a better prospect than Luck, and I'm not sure the Vikings wouldn't take Luck, given the opportunity. Bradford's contract probably makes it impossible to do anything with him, so that's not likely at all.

 

[volfanjustin]

Rookies taken in first 3 rounds are usually expected to contribute right away. They don't always, but if you have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds, you should be looking for about 3 of them to contribute in the first year.

Contribute yes, but to me that is different than making a team a contender.

 

[n_huffhines]

Contribute yes, but to me that is different than making a team a contender.

Manning, Clark, Wayne, Freeney, and Mathis make them a contender, but they can't do it without depth. The team is way too thin.

 

[volfanjustin]

Manning, Clark, Wayne, Freeney, and Mathis make them a contender, but they can't do it without depth. The team is way too thin.

I agree with all that but cap wise I don't see any way that Manning, Wayne and Mathis all can come back. All 3, maybe more Wayne and Mathis want to get paid.

 

[n_huffhines]

True, Manning is probably the only one willing to sign for less than market value.

 

[HSVol]

Don Banks says PM has had 4 neck surgeries, not 3.

As Colts near deadline on Peyton Manning, more details emerge - Don Banks - SI.com

 

[Fighting Possum]

And just for the hell of it...say the Colts trade down instead of taking Luck, who would y'all see as the best pick to make them a contender in 2012?

And hypothetical situation.....what if the Colts trade down twice? Say they trade away the first overall and end up with the 4th overall and a 2nd round pick, too. Luck goes #1....if Rams and Vikings don't take RGIII, Colts could probably trade down again and get a #6 overall and a 3rd round pick.

If you're Irsay do you go with Luck no matter what? I mean, if this is a possible hypothetical you could be giving up Manning, a #8 pick, a #36 pick, and a #70 pick all for one rookie.

While I see your logic in comparing the package to a rookie, you have to think of Luck as your starter for the next 12 years and not a rookie. You also have to think you are hopefully set at one of the top 2 or 3 positions on your team and don't have to think about QB for the next several drafts. However, if you can add picks by trading down only a couple of spots and still get RGIII, that might be smart.

 

[badkarma]

Cut this week?

 

[HSVol]

This is why I love college football because eonomics do not determine where someone plays.

No offense, but any person who believes this is true needs to educate themselves. In fact, this statement couldn't be farther from the truth.

The biggest difference between the NCAA and NFL is that the players make schools, conferences, and bowl executives millions upon millions of dollars and don't reap the near financial benefit. That brand new facility UT is building is all about economics and attracting the best recruits. Auburn jokes aside, instead of signing on with a team that pays the biggest salary, players are choosing teams with the best facilities, biggest recruiting budgets, and best coaching staffs. BCS HFCs are making millions. Assistants are making salaries in the top 1%. Schools are changing conferences because of economics. Conferences are creating tv networks because of economics.

Don't kid yourself. College football is as much about economics as the NFL. And NFL players aren't as exploited as D1 players. You want to watch college football that isn't all about economics? Go check out a D2 game because that's where it's still about the game, for the most part.