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Seems to me that over the years he hasn't had big time talent surrounding him-that he made average or mediocre players better. Moreno is an example as are a few others. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he had Kent and Nash to throw to but they weren't what they were without him. Now, I think Faulk was good and he clicked with Harrison but other than Jamal when he was a frosh Manning has been making his own success!
 
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I agree with your overall point here, but Peyton was absolutely terrible tonight and he had one of those games where he just absolutely choked.
 
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BearCat204 said:
I agree with your overall point here, but Peyton was absolutely terrible tonight and he had one of those games where he just absolutely choked.
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He wasn't "terrible". Hell where was his help? Defense couldn't stop a dadgum thing. Offensive can't block. Recovers fumble balls. What else you want the man to do? Run the ball? Play safety? Play special teams?
 
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Manning can't complain about not having weapons this year. I'm the biggest Manning supporter ever, but Pete Carroll just owned the Broncos. Manning struggles with pressure, really bad now after his neck injury, and the Seahawks put the hurt on him. The biggest issues with the Broncos is their o-line was vastly overrated coming into the playoffs, and everyone knew their secondary was terrible. The Seahawks simply took advantage of the weaknesses of the Broncos and it worked. It also helped that their special teams got a huge boost with Harvin. It is what it is, but for the first time I just think Manning looked like it was over for him.
 
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Antwturn said:
He wasn't "terrible". Hell where was his help? Defense couldn't stop a dadgum thing. Offensive can't block. Recovers fumble balls. What else you want the man to do? Run the ball? Play safety? Play special teams?
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Look, I'm as big a Peyton fan as the next guy, but Peyton was not Peyton tonight and he threw a few terrible passes and turned the ball over on overthrown passes and just mistakes.
 
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BearCat204 said:
I agree with your overall point here, but Peyton was absolutely terrible tonight and he had one of those games where he just absolutely choked.
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He was far from terrible. He got harrassed every time he dropped back. If anyone was terrible it was his o-line. His WR's also got owned.
 
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KingtUT said:
He was far from terrible. He got harrassed every time he dropped back. If anyone was terrible it was his o-line. His WR's also got owned.
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Peyton wasn't good last night. That loss was't all on him, but he did not play well.
 
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Antwturn said:
He wasn't "terrible". Hell where was his help? Defense couldn't stop a dadgum thing. Offensive can't block. Recovers fumble balls. What else you want the man to do? Run the ball? Play safety? Play special teams?
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The defense held Lynch to the second fewest rushing yards of this season. No WR had over 66 yards receiving. The defense made some stops and the offense could not take advantage. The whole team, including Peyton played terrible. It sucked.
 
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KingtUT said:
He was far from terrible. He got harrassed every time he dropped back. If anyone was terrible it was his o-line. His WR's also got owned.
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He was not good at all tonight, better? His supporting cast was just as bad though.
 
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That's what happens when you are forced off your game. Seattle harassed him all night.

BearCat204 said:
Look, I'm as big a Peyton fan as the next guy, but Peyton was not Peyton tonight and he threw a few terrible passes and turned the ball over on overthrown passes and just mistakes.
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Well lets see his Center put him in a hole on he first snap, his D made that hole worse. then yes he did come out weak, but then his D made that hole even bigger and by the time he got rhythm the game was already out of hand.

So anyone that says Manning lost this game or he choked just doesn't know football. That loss was a complete team effort, or lack there of. A QB shouldn't HAVE to score on every possesion, but thats exactly what the broncos D let the seahawks do and therefor made it so the broncos O, and Manning, had to otherwise the game was over, and as we saw it quickly was.

The fact is the seahawks came to play and the broncos bought into all the pregame hype of the greatest O in history. The broncos D looked like the worst D to ever step foot on a field and were clearly expecting to coast to a win on the back of the O. If they could'e made a few stops in the game then maybe it gives the O some hope but they didn't and the O had all the pressure on them. The seahawks on the other hand put in a complete team effort with all 3 aspects putting in work and points to contribute to the win.
 
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I concur!

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Well lets see his Center put him in a hole on he first snap, his D made that hole worse. then yes he did come out weak, but then his D made that hole even bigger and by the time he got rhythm the game was already out of hand.

So anyone that says Manning lost this game or he choked just doesn't know football. That loss was a complete team effort, or lack there of. A QB shouldn't HAVE to score on every possesion, but thats exactly what the broncos D let the seahawks do and therefor made it so the broncos O, and Manning, had to otherwise the game was over, and as we saw it quickly was.

The fact is the seahawks came to play and the broncos bought into all the pregame hype of the greatest O in history. The broncos D looked like the worst D to ever step foot on a field and were clearly expecting to coast to a win on the back of the O. If they could'e made a few stops in the game then maybe it gives the O some hope but they didn't and the O had all the pressure on them. The seahawks on the other hand put in a complete team effort with all 3 aspects putting in work and points to contribute to the win.
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Dude completes 70 percent of his passes against one of the best Pass Defenses the League has ever seen, has almost 300 yards, throws one interception I'll give to him, one that is because he was made into a sandwich, and he didn't play well? Gosh, I wonder what better quarterbacks would have done against that defense, with his O-line.
 
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Peyton along with the rest of the Broncos squad looked terrible tonight. It was a team lack of effort out there. The game was pretty much over by halftime.

Hats off to Seattle. The Offense converted on 3rd down all night, the Special Teams where Lights Out, and the Defense was nothing short of Sick Great.

Seattle Owned Denver tonight. Haven't seen Peyton rattled like that since the 96 Florida game.
 
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tenmanjonez said:
Dude completes 70 percent of his passes against one of the best Pass Defenses the League has ever seen, has almost 300 yards, throws one interception I'll give to him, one that is because he was made into a sandwich, and he didn't play well? Gosh, I wonder what better quarterbacks would have done against that defense, with his O-line.
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He didn't play well by his standards.
 
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tenmanjonez said:
Dude completes 70 percent of his passes against one of the best Pass Defenses the League has ever seen, has almost 300 yards, throws one interception I'll give to him, one that is because he was made into a sandwich, and he didn't play well? Gosh, I wonder what better quarterbacks would have done against that defense, with his O-line.
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2 interceptions a fumble and a passer rating of 73.5. Not Manning's best showing.
 
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The Colts won the SB with a balanced offense against the Bears. For some reason Manning has had trouble sticking with the balanced attack in big games and it's cost him every time.
 
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34/49 (70%), broke Brady and Brees record of 32 completions in SB, put DThomas in SB record books w 13 catches.

His D forced 1 punt and got zero turnovers. Think about that.

Manning ran into a buzz saw and did all right. Don't throw him under the bus.
 
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vols-1 said:
The Colts won the SB with a balanced offense against the Bears. For some reason Manning has had trouble sticking with the balanced attack in big games and it's cost him every time.
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Can't do that when you have bad field position and your always behind.
 
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