Plain and simple... Peterman needs to start

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whobethis16 said:
And Saturday's loss had nothing to do with giving up almost 700 yards to the Oregon offense?
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The ten consecutive three and outs helped that a little bit. That's what happens when your qb can't complete a 5 yard slant.
 
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Ok, well, I'll take the opinions of Ainge and Swayne, guys that have actually played the game over the people on here when they say Worley was not the problem. They agree that he hasn't been great (same as I've said) but was not the problem Saturday as many on here say.
 
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whobethis16 said:
No, I did not say that, nor did I try to say that. Reading comprehension is an ally. People on here are whining and crying about how "inaccurate" Worley is, and I provided numbers that show that Worley is more accurate than Bray was. But people overlook that because Worley doesn't throw 50 times a game.
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More accurate????...Bray was one of the most accurate deep ball throwers in the the nation....i don't need to look at stats...even Worely's short completions are not accurate..he NEVER hits WRs in stride...he is not accurate in any form or fashion...Bray could put the ball on a dime 50 yards down the field better than Worley can 5 yards down the field...you must really be out of your mind to even suggest such a thing...do you even watch the games??????
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
More accurate...Bry was one of th most accurate deep ball throwers in th the nation....i don't need to look at stats...even Worely's completions are all nt accurate..he NEVER hits WRs in stride...he is not accurate in any form or fashion...Bray could put the ball n a dime 50 yards down the field better than Worley can 5 yards down the field...you must really be out f your mind to even suggest such a thing...
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Under 60% career completion percentage means he's missed over 40% of his throws. AND had 28 interceptions in 28 games. That is not that accurate. Get off Bray's nuts.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Under 60% career completion percentage means he's missed over 40% of his throws. AND had 28 interceptions in 28 games. That is not that accurate. Get off Bray's uts.
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Listen stat boy..Bray was one millions times an accurate passer than Worely is...but then again almost any other division 1 QB is as well...even against Austin Peay...Worey faild to ever hit WRs in stride....Austn Peay!!! but the stats would suggest otherwise right? And he is literally incapable of throwing an accurate down the field pass...i have only seen one this year and it was dropped by Croom...there is no comparison...Bray is 1 million times the passer that Worey is....these are just facts..not being on his nuts...Worely is TERRIBLE at throwing the ball!!!!!
 
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whobethis16 said:
Ok, well, I'll take the opinions of Ainge and Swayne, guys that have actually played the game over the people on here when they say Worley was not the problem. They agree that he hasn't been great (same as I've said) but was not the problem Saturday as many on here say.
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Hilarious. There was not a singular problem Saturday. It was a bevy of problems....a plethora....a bushel.....a bunch...a ****load....


That doesn't improve Worley's arm or accuracy nor should it conclude the discussion.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
Listen stat boy..Bray was one millions times an accurate passer than Worely is...but then again almost any other division 1 QB is as well...even against Austin Peay...Worey faild to ever hit WRs in stride....Austn Peay!!! but the stats would suggest otherwise right? And he is literally incapable of throwing an accurate down the field pass...i have only seen one this year and it was dropped by Croom...there is no comparison...Bray is 1 million times the passer that Worey is....these are just facts..not being on his nuts...Worely is TERRIBLE at throwing the ball!!!!!
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Ok, well, if/when Jones deems Worley the best QB option, I won't let you attempt to drag me off the cliff when you go jump. And I won't stop you.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Ok, well, if/when Jones deems Worley the best QB option, I won't let you attempt to drag me off the cliff when you go jump. And I won't stop you.
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We already are off the cliff with Worely in there.....way off the cliff...seriously....what is wrong with you???????

Worely = losing no matter what...no exceptions...it can't get any worse and if it somehow does than at least we will have tried
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
We already are off the cliff with Worely in there.....way off the cliff...seriously....what is wrong with you???????

Worely = losing no matter what...no exceptions...it can't get any worse and if it somehow does than at least we will have tried
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Worley is 2-1 with 1 interception and 7 touchdowns. And I'm talking about you as a fan. I'm nowhere near jumping off the cliff due to this loss. But I certainly won't stop you from jumping.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Worley is 2-1 with 1 interception and 7 touchdowns. And I'm talking about you as a fan. I'm nowhere near jumping off the cliff due to this loss. But I certainly won't stop you from jumping.
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These stats are irrelevant. Worley is incompetent, and that will only be magnified even more if he leads us into Gainesville. That being said, if he is the starter I hope he proves me wrong and has the game of his life. We will need that to move the ball consistently against their D.
 
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TheBigOne10 said:
These stats are irrelevant. Worley is incompetent, and that will only be magnified even more if he leads us into Gainesville. That being said, if he is the starter I hope he proves me wrong and has the game of his life. We will need that to move the ball consistently against their D.
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They are plenty relevant. He doesn't make bad decisions, he can read and decipher defenses and run the offense. Does he have a strong arm? No. No denial here. But why does the OC force him to do so? Utilize what he's got.
 
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whobethis16 said:
If you notice, I never actually said that I think he's played great. He hasn't. However, he has not lost a game for us. He's a game manager with crap talent around him. If you put the talent of Alabama around him, he'd look similar to McCarron (for those with reading comprehension deprivation, I said similar, not identical). He doesn't have 3 NFL receivers or an NFL tight end to throw to like Bray did.
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There is the edge of insanity, and then there is the abyss.....
 
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whobethis16 said:
They are plenty relevant. He doesn't make bad decisions, he can read and decipher defenses and run the offense. Does he have a strong arm? No. No denial here. But why does the OC force him to do so? Utilize what he's got.
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The issue is that he's too inaccurate to move the chains with any consistency. At this point, we've seen nothing, besides two nice throws to Croom in 3 games, to indicate that he can make the throw on third down to move the chains. Sure, he'll get the offense lined up and won't throw too many interceptions, but unless we're averaging at least 4 YPC on the ground, he's not gonna be able to move the chains against SEC defenses. And if we're behind and have to throw, we're in even more trouble.

I understand what the upsides are with Worley. He doesn't make bad decisions with the ball. He can line up the offense and read a defense. He knows where to throw the ball (or more importantly, where not to throw te ball). But what good does any of that do the offense if his throws are bouncing to receivers instead of actually hitting them in stride?

If Worley's accuracy issues continue, I expect the coaches to make a change to one of our QBs who may have issues reading defenses, lining up, or making decisions, but has the arm to potentially hit receivers on big plays or extend plays with his feet.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Worley is 2-1 with 1 interception and 7 touchdowns. And I'm talking about you as a fan. I'm nowhere near jumping off the cliff due to this loss. But I certainly won't stop you from jumping.
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Those stats are primarily against WKU and the HS team, Austin Peay...even against WKU, he was garbage the majority of the game and against Oregon, he was a total negative...10 consecutive 3 and outs...really..that makes Crompton look like Manning...i really think you might be insane...Worely will do absolutely nothing against the SEC teams on our schedule except for maybe Kentucky...
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
Those stats are primarily against WKU and the HS team, Austin Peay...even against WKU, he was garbage the majority of the game and against Oregon, he was a total negative...10 consecutive 3 and outs...really..that makes Crompton look like Manning...i really think you might be insane...Worely will do absolutely nothing against the SEC teams on our schedule except for maybe Kentucky...
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And Bray didn't win a damn thing against the SEC and lost to Kentucky. That's the point. If Worley gets a little bit of help (ie no drops) and continues to improve. You say majority of the WKU game, but really you mean about a full quarter of that game. Cause I know you don't mean the second half.
 
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volswillrise12 said:
OK well if you think one freshman quarterback is going to impact this team then you have to be the biggest idiot poster on this site. Our problem is the entirety of the team---it's a complete lack of talent on the entire roster. Throw the freshmen in you troglodyte--still ain't going to mean **** on the win total.
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But what evidence is there that says one of our freshmen QBs can't come in and go on a tear. You'd be surprised how much keeping the offense on the field for longer then a minute helps out a defense.

Here's what I don't get. Why wouldn't you want a freshman in there now? I mean with the O-line we have he probably won't get sacked much if at all, so it'll give him time to learn and do something.

I also don't believe that putting in a freshman means you're giving up on the season, if that's the case then FSU should just stop playing every game right now. Granted not all freshmen are great but we won't know until he gets in there. Either he can learn now and not taking a beating, or next year when we have no O-line experience at all and let him get demolished.
 
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whobethis16 said:
And Bray didn't win a damn thing against the SEC and lost to Kentucky. That's the point. If Worley gets a little bit of help (ie no drops) and continues to improve. You say majority of the WKU game, but really you mean about a full quarter of that game. Cause I know you don't mean the second half.
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Unlike you, I have eyes! I can see talent...guess what???

Worely has very very little if any at this level...Bray had as much as anyone could ever ask for....Bray actually threw down the field with success for completions hitting WRs in stride...something that Worely can never do....and Bray had Dooley and Sal...seriously...are you tripping on acid right now?

Worely can't even throw the ball past 5 yards with an ounce of accuracy and they all are rainbow floaters....

WOW...just WOW!!!!! i am amazed at how blind you are on this....

Worely's higher completion numbers are due to extremely easy passes and dump offs against bad competition...mostly against AP a HS team...check out his career numbers for a more accurate assessment...he is a middle school QB compared to Bray both accuracy and arm strength wise......
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
Unlike you, I have eyes! I can see talent...guess what??? Worely has very very little if any at this level...Bray had as much as anyone could ever ask for....Bray actaully threw downth field with suces for comletions hitting WRs in strde...something that Woreay can never do....and Bray had Dooley and Sal...seriously...are you tripping on acid right now? Worely can't even throw the ball past 5 yards with an ounce of accuracy and they all are rainbow floaters....WOW...just WOW!!!!! i am amazed at how blind you are on this....Worely's high completion numbers are due to extremely easy passes and dump offs against bad competition...he is a middle school QB compared to Bray both accuracy and arm strength wise......
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We get it, you don't like Worley.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
Unlike you, I have eyes! I can see talent...guess what??? Worely has very very little if any at this level...Bray had as much as anyone could ever ask for....Bray actaully threw downth field with suces for comletions hitting WRs in strde...something that Woreay can never do....and Bray had Dooley and Sal...seriously...are you tripping on acid right now? Worely can't even throw the ball past 5 yards with an ounce of accuracy and they all are rainbow floaters....WOW...just WOW!!!!! i am amazed at how blind you are on this....Worely's high completion numbers are due to extremely easy passes and dump offs against bad competition...he is a middle school QB compared to Bray both accuracy and arm strength wise......
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I am amazed at how you keep talking about talent and ability, yet you can't spell names or even type things to allow someone to read it coherently.
 
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OWB said:
We get it, you don't like Worley.
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I am just utterly amazed at people suggesting he is better than Bray or any other former SEC QB fr that matter...i am all for supporting the players and coaches.....but some people on here take it to extremes...
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
Unlike you, I have eyes! I can see talent...guess what???

Worely has very very little if any at this level...Bray had as much as anyone could ever ask for....Bray actually threw down the field with success for completions hitting WRs in stride...something that Worely can never do....and Bray had Dooley and Sal...seriously...are you tripping on acid right now?

Worely can't even throw the ball past 5 yards with an ounce of accuracy and they all are rainbow floaters....

WOW...just WOW!!!!! i am amazed at how blind you are on this....

Worely's higher completion numbers are due to extremely easy passes and dump offs against bad competition...mostly against AP a HS team...check out his career numbers for a more accurate assessment...he is a middle school QB compared to Bray both accuracy and arm strength wise......
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And I've never stated that Worley is more talented, but I have proven that talent doesn't always equal wins, or else Bray would've had more than 5 SEC wins to his name.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
I am just utterly amazed at people suggesting he is better than Bray or any other former SEC QB fr that matter...i am all for supporting the players and coaches.....but some people on here take it to extremes...
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Like saying he's garbage and not played well at all this year?
 
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whobethis16 said:
And I've never stated that Worley is more talented, but I have proven that talent doesn't always equal wins, or else Bray would've had more than 5 SEC wins to his name.
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Talent doesn't equal wins eh? Then what does? Luck? Random happenings in the universe?

Bray didn't win last year because our defense couldn't tackle a 3 year old in a wheel chair and our coach thought an orange dog would solve our problems.
 
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tennesseefan31 said:
Talent doesn't equal wins eh? Then what does? Luck? Random happenings in the universe?

Bray didn't win last year because our defense couldn't tackle a 3 year old in a wheel chair and our coach thought an orange dog would solve our problems.
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Reading comprehension. Learn it. I said doesn't always. Think Appalachian State was more talented than Michigan? Yes, talent helps. A lot. But the quarterback doesn't have to be all SEC if he has some help around him.
 
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