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[n_huffhines]

Real science can be observed and repeated.

You can't even acknowledge the point I made. You just have these tired talking points you've likely relied on for years and I went off script but you still go with them anyway.

 

[BigO95]

So you trust genealogist but not radiometric dating that is one of many ways to prove the earth is way older than 6k years?

Radiometric dating is sketchy at best. I trust the word of God!

 

[Orangeslice13]

And simply put, we can trace genealogies all the way back to Adam and we know how old Adam is. Now the bible plainly teaches that Adam was made on day six of creation. In case you don't know how long that is, it's an evening and a morning just like we have today.
Biblically we can say that the earth is roughly six thousand years old.
Now then, you can twist the scriptures if you want to, but I lovingly warn you that you will stand before God with treating his bible deceitfully.
It's simple enough for me, I just believe the bible!

Nope
That’s reading into the scripture things that clearly are not there.
You’ve got a problem with your literal 24 hours as we are it’s a creation in G-ds time where G-d clearly says that his second is a kin to our 1000 years.

 

[BigO95]

You can't even acknowledge the point I made. You just have these tired talking points you've likely relied on for years and I went off script but you still go with them anyway.

So just to be clear, you want to know if I would change my mind if I had scientific proof against the theology I believe? Is that what you want to know?

 

[n_huffhines]

And simply put, we can trace genealogies all the way back to Adam and we know how old Adam is. Now the bible plainly teaches that Adam was made on day six of creation. In case you don't know how long that is, it's an evening and a morning just like we have today.
Biblically we can say that the earth is roughly six thousand years old.
Now then, you can twist the scriptures if you want to, but I lovingly warn you that you will stand before God with treating his bible deceitfully.
It's simple enough for me, I just believe the bible!

Bro, this is so bad. You have a super myopic view of the Bible, forget about our origin.

You're taking the Bible totally literally and as if it's offering complete info in order to interpret a 6k year old earth.

Half the Bible is figurative, symbollic, etc. For example, you are interpreting 7 days of creation as literal days when for all we know the 7 days represent 7 eons. Stop letting other believers tell you how to interpret scripture.

 

[BigO95]

Nope
That’s reading into the scripture things that clearly are not there.
You’ve got a problem with your literal 24 hours as we are it’s a creation in G-ds time where G-d clearly says that his second is a kin to our 1000 years.

Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

It would be dishonest of God if that isn't what he meant.

 

[Orangeslice13]

For me.. when you look at the observable universe, and laughably attempt to comprehend how big it is, the more I realize we are not divine or of importance. To think so, in my opinion, is very naive.

We can disagree on our importance and be friends.
As a matter of fact we can completely disagree on everything and still be buddies.

Now back on to the point.
The further we can see through technology advancement, the more stuff is out there.

Torah does say that G-ds creation is without end.

 

[n_huffhines]

So just to be clear, you want to know if I would change my mind if I had scientific proof against the theology I believe? Is that what you want to know?

Not really. Just stop making responses that distract from the point and we're good.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

It would be dishonest of God if that isn't what he meant.

G-ds time isn’t your time. His days are not your days.
And that was Mosh speaking.

 

[BigO95]

Bro, this is so bad. You have a super myopic view of the Bible, forget about our origin.

You're taking the Bible totally literally and as if it's offering complete info in order to interpret a 6k year old earth.

Half the Bible is figurative, symbollic, etc. For example, you are interpreting 7 days of creation as literal days when for all we know the 7 days represent 7 eons. Stop letting other believers tell you how to interpret scripture.

If it would have been eons, God would have said eons. You would do yourself a great favor and quit trying to twist the scriptures.

 

[865er]

We can disagree on our importance and be friends.
As a matter of fact we can completely disagree on everything and still be buddies.

Now back on to the point.
The further we can see through technology advancement, the more stuff is out there.

Torah does say that G-ds creation is without end.

I actually find peace thinking that when I die it’s completely over. Literally eternal sleep. Sounds so peaceful to me lol

I obviously need to read into the Torah. You’ve mentioned a couple things that seem reasonable and intriguing.

 

[BigO95]

G-ds time isn’t your time. His days are not your days.

He's not bound by time, he created time. Yet we are bound by time and he made it pretty easy for us to understand. You don't have to be a scholar to understand the bible. He made so even a child could understand.

 

[865er]

He's not bound by time, he created time. Yet we are bound by time and he made it pretty easy for us to understand. You don't have to be a scholar to understand the bible. He made so even a child could understand.

That last sentence is the wildest thing you may have said in this thread lol

 

[hog88]

Radiometric dating is sketchy at best. I trust the word of God!

If he’s not talking directly to you then you’re trusting the word of men.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Prove it

Earliest history directly recorded by man is about 4200 BC. That already puts us past your absurd mark of 6000 years.

Paleontology has extensively proven that man and dinosaurs never coexisted. Your theory has blatant holes.

 

[Matt2496]

No where in the Bible does it say that the earth is approximately 6000 years old. IMO, whether the earth is 6000 years old or 6,000,000,000 years old doesn’t take anything away from the omnipotence and glory of God.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I forgot how ****in' nuts this guy is. I'm out. Lol.

 

[BigO95]

Earliest history directly recorded by man is about 4200 BC. That already puts us past your absurd mark of 6000 years.

Paleontology has extensively proven that man and dinosaurs never coexisted. Your theory has blatant holes.

Extensively proven? Perhaps you should study after different paleontologists... And I said roughly 6,000 years. What year is it now?

 

[BigO95]

If he’s not talking directly to you then you’re trusting the word of men.

Though all the bible isn't written directly to us, it is written for us. It's God's word none the less.

 

[BigO95]

That last sentence is the wildest thing you may have said in this thread lol

Eighth graders should be able to read the bible and understand it. It's written on their reading level. It could probably be read and understood by a sixth grader, at least most of it.

 

[865er]

Eighth graders should be able to read the bible and understand it. It's written on their reading level. It could probably be read and understood by a sixth grader, at least most of it.

Today, here in the US, you are probably correct. But until the 19th century most of the world was illiterate. There’s a reason it was written the way it was.. to trick dummies into falling in line.

 

[BigO95]

Today, here in the US, you are probably correct. But until the 19th century most of the world was illiterate. There’s a reason it was written the way it was.. to trick dummies into falling in line.

You've been deceived about the bible. I challenge you to study the resurrection of Jesus Christ and bible prophecy. If you are still an unbeliever after that, I probably don't have any help for you.
The more I study the bible , the more I believe it.

 

[Orangeslice13]

He's not bound by time, he created time. Yet we are bound by time and he made it pretty easy for us to understand. You don't have to be a scholar to understand the bible. He made so even a child could understand.

And you reading into his work on our days isn’t factual.
He isn’t limited by our time as you just stated.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I actually find peace thinking that when I die it’s completely over. Literally eternal sleep. Sounds so peaceful to me lol

I obviously need to read into the Torah. You’ve mentioned a couple things that seem reasonable and intriguing.

Carful.
Jews are sneaky.
It could be a trap.

 

[BigO95]

And you reading into his work on our days isn’t factual.
He isn’t limited by our time as you just stated.

You have to make a big stretch of your imagination to make your view biblical. Why not just take the bible as simply read?