Poll: If you are a Trump supporter, do you consider him to be a “good Christian?”

Is Donald Trump someone you would call/consider a “good Christian?”

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 6.1%

  • No

    Votes: 67 58.3%

  • I like pie

    Votes: 31 27.0%

  • Turbo just vote here and save everyone time

    Votes: 10 8.7%
  • Total voters
    115
#434
#434
DinkinFlicka said:
About 4 billion years, give or take a few hundred million.

How old do you think it is?
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That’s an unknown actually.
With time not being the same everywhere and mater neither being created or destroyed, I’d say timeless is a better description.
 
#435
#435
BigO95 said:
I think it's roughly 6,000 years old according to the bible.
We both have to believe that by faith.
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And in no way does that make you the same. You're operating 100% on faith and maybe unwilling to change your mind with new evidence. If the scientific community came up with enough support to change his mind he would have no reservations about doing it.

BTW, the Bible doesn't say the earth is 6,000 years old.
 
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#436
n_huffhines said:
And in no way does that make you the same. You're operating 100% on faith and maybe unwilling to change your mind with new evidence. If the scientific community came up with enough support to change his mind he would have no reservations about doing it.

BTW, the Bible doesn't say the earth is 6,000 years old.
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You have no such evidence
 
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#439
Hold on
You’re asking him to prove the Bible doesn’t say something?

@n_huffhines
I think you have your work cut out for you as you need to post the entire bible and go verse by verse explaining why each verse doesn’t apply.
 
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You have no proof of an old world just as I have to simply believe what the bible plainly teaches about a young earth.
 
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BigO95 said:
You have no proof of an old world just as I have to simply believe what the bible plainly teaches about a young earth.
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The Bible does not teach a young earth and it would not be consistent with what the Torah teaches about G-d.

According to Torah
G-d is the creator of all things.
G-d calls himself the ancient of days. (Jewish idiom that means without number)
G-d calls himself the “Great creator “
G-d says that he’s “outside of time”
G-d is a lawgiver. Meaning everything is set on his laws. (We know through science that everything is set up on constants, or scientific laws.)
The 6 periods of creation match the development of this planet as taught by science.

Reality is that this place is very very old and G-d, who is without time , brought this current reality into existence in the last 150k years but the actual beginning of this existence is so long ago by our time that it’s beyond our comprehension.


There are no scriptures that say the creation is 6000 years old. There are no scriptures that give a date at all. The wording in genesis creation story insinuates a very old creation but doesn’t give a timeframe. To say it does is reading into it things that are not there. It’s almost like G-d didn’t think we needed to know or we’d figure it out on our own.

And finally it’s a little silly to believe that the immortal Without beginning Creator G-d finally got bored about 6000 years ago and thought “I think I’ll make some ****”
 
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#445
n_huffhines said:
If your response is to ask me to prove this then you didn't get the point of my post.
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People on the left that constantly ask how Christians can support Trump.. here is example #1. Pick and choose parts of the narrative ( the bible or Trumps campaign ) that fit an agenda and run with it even tho the bad parts are looking them in the face.
 
#446
#446
Orangeslice13 said:
The Bible does not teach a young earth and it would not be consistent with what the Torah teaches about G-d.

According to Torah
G-d is the creator of all things.
G-d calls himself the ancient of days. (Jewish idiom that means without number)
G-d calls himself the “Great creator “
G-d says that he’s “outside of time”
G-d is a lawgiver. Meaning everything is set on his laws. (We know through science that everything is set up on constants, or scientific laws.)
The 6 periods of creation match the development of this planet as taught by science.

Reality is that this place is very very old and G-d, who is without time , brought this current reality into existence in the last 150k years but the actual beginning of this existence is so long ago by our time that it’s beyond our comprehension.


There are no scriptures that say the creation is 6000 years old. There are no scriptures that give a date at all. The wording in genesis creation story insinuates a very old creation but doesn’t give a timeframe. To say it does is reading into it things that are not there. It’s almost like G-d didn’t think we needed to know or we’d figure it out on our own.

And finally it’s a little silly to believe that the immortal Without beginning Creator G-d finally got bored about 6000 years ago and thought “I think I’ll make some ****”
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And simply put, we can trace genealogies all the way back to Adam and we know how old Adam is. Now the bible plainly teaches that Adam was made on day six of creation. In case you don't know how long that is, it's an evening and a morning just like we have today.
Biblically we can say that the earth is roughly six thousand years old.
Now then, you can twist the scriptures if you want to, but I lovingly warn you that you will stand before God with treating his bible deceitfully.
It's simple enough for me, I just believe the bible!
 
#447
#447
Orangeslice13 said:
The Bible does not teach a young earth and it would not be consistent with what the Torah teaches about G-d.

According to Torah
G-d is the creator of all things.
G-d calls himself the ancient of days. (Jewish idiom that means without number)
G-d calls himself the “Great creator “
G-d says that he’s “outside of time”
G-d is a lawgiver. Meaning everything is set on his laws. (We know through science that everything is set up on constants, or scientific laws.)
The 6 periods of creation match the development of this planet as taught by science.

Reality is that this place is very very old and G-d, who is without time , brought this current reality into existence in the last 150k years but the actual beginning of this existence is so long ago by our time that it’s beyond our comprehension.


There are no scriptures that say the creation is 6000 years old. There are no scriptures that give a date at all. The wording in genesis creation story insinuates a very old creation but doesn’t give a timeframe. To say it does is reading into it things that are not there. It’s almost like G-d didn’t think we needed to know or we’d figure it out on our own.

And finally it’s a little silly to believe that the immortal Without beginning Creator G-d finally got bored about 6000 years ago and thought “I think I’ll make some ****”
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For me.. when you look at the observable universe, and laughably attempt to comprehend how big it is, the more I realize we are not divine or of importance. To think so, in my opinion, is very naive.
 
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#449
BigO95 said:
And simply put, we can trace genealogies all the way back to Adam and we know how old Adam is. Now the bible plainly teaches that Adam was made on day six of creation. In case you don't know how long that is, it's an evening and a morning just like we have today.
Biblically we can say that the earth is roughly six thousand years old.
Now then, you can twist the scriptures if you want to, but I lovingly warn you that you will stand before God with treating his bible deceitfully.
It's simple enough for me, I just believe the bible!
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So you trust genealogist but not radiometric dating that is one of many ways to prove the earth is way older than 6k years?
 
#450
#450
“If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.”

Praise be!
 
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