POLL: POTUS Who Do You Think Will WIN? (2020)

One Week To Go - POTUS Do You Think Will Win?

  • Trump

    Votes: 98 60.1%
  • Biden

    Votes: 57 35.0%
  • Jorgensen (Libertarian)

    Votes: 3 1.8%
  • Hawkins (Green Party)

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 4 2.5%

  • Total voters
    163
Yep. System integration step 10 after you’ve spent steps 1 thru 9 checking out your actuators and feedback sensors open loop to make sure they respond like you expect.

Step 10. Close the loop and hit the enable.

Step 11. Immediately shut it down and gather any separated pieces.

Step 12. Wonder out loud “holy hell why did it do that! 😳
I'm laughing my ass off!!
 
I like it better when you guys speak English.

OK, a simple example. You have something in a pot on the stove. You turn up the gas making sure you didn't over do it, you walk away, and a few minutes later it boils over. Turning up the gas was instantaneous, but the mass in the pot had to heat up to reach the boiling point - not instantaneous. Controlling the gas and the boiling are related just not directly; boiling is all about the temperature of the stuff inside the pot - it's mass, and heat absorption. Make it an electric burner, and there's even another lag factor involved.

We're a society tuned to instant gratification living in a world of dynamics controlled by response lags. The result is almost always overcontrol.
 
OK, a simple example. You have something in a pot on the stove. You turn up the gas making sure you didn't over do it, you walk away, and a few minutes later it boils over. Turning up the gas was instantaneous, but the mass in the pot had to heat up to reach the boiling point - not instantaneous. Controlling the gas and the boiling are related just not directly; boiling is all about the temperature of the stuff inside the pot - it's mass, and heat absorption. Make it an electric burner, and there's even another lag factor involved.

We're a society tuned to instant gratification living in a world of dynamics controlled by response lags. The result is almost always overcontrol.
Awesome analogy.
 
OK, a simple example. You have something in a pot on the stove. You turn up the gas making sure you didn't over do it, you walk away, and a few minutes later it boils over. Turning up the gas was instantaneous, but the mass in the pot had to heat up to reach the boiling point - not instantaneous. Controlling the gas and the boiling are related just not directly; boiling is all about the temperature of the stuff inside the pot - it's mass, and heat absorption. Make it an electric burner, and there's even another lag factor involved.

We're a society tuned to instant gratification living in a world of dynamics controlled by response lags. The result is almost always overcontrol.
The dumb thing is: many think that Government can solve any problem.

Where did they get that idea? From past performance?
 
OK, a simple example. You have something in a pot on the stove. You turn up the gas making sure you didn't over do it, you walk away, and a few minutes later it boils over. Turning up the gas was instantaneous, but the mass in the pot had to heat up to reach the boiling point - not instantaneous. Controlling the gas and the boiling are related just not directly; boiling is all about the temperature of the stuff inside the pot - it's mass, and heat absorption. Make it an electric burner, and there's even another lag factor involved.

We're a society tuned to instant gratification living in a world of dynamics controlled by response lags. The result is almost always overcontrol.
It's cold in my house, how come when I turn my thermostat up to 85 it doesn't get warmer quicker?
 
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Not sure I should have given you that like...

Figuring Rice U is one of those "Texas Vandy's" and knowing my son's still got 2 years to go there.
Yep. You pegged one 😬

But as in all schools they aren’t ALL a wasteland.

Vandy is a good school I’m sure the instructors are top notch in engineering. But... the student and his/her background and attitude have an impact also. You seem fairly grounded and thus I’d guess your son is too.

Put SMU on the list too. But a young mechanical engineer I just started working with is a SMU grad and I’ll guess he winds up in engineering leadership great maturity for this point in his career.
 
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Awesome analogy.

Thank you, but I have to give all that credit to my prof who taught heat transfer and fluid dynamics. He gave almost the entire class a final grad of "E" when I was a senior. We were all standing around wondering what the hell an "E" was; turns out "E" means you did acceptably well during the quarter (in my days), but the final exam grade was unacceptable. He gave us a take home test - nothing big, just plot the temperature profile along a single fuel tube - not even an entire assembly. He gave us some parameters to start with. So the first thing you have to know is that the coefficient of heat transfer is temperature dependent. So the calculation goes from one and done to iterative. This was before calculators were real common. It took me a week to finally get the answer to converge; as long as I live, I will never forget "m dot c sub p delta t".
 
Feedback and controls and system dynamics was big in the UT nuclear program - so many feedback mechanisms in the nuclear system. If you understand that kind of process, it opens your eyes to what goes on around us - like even politics.

One of my favorites (that we finally uncovered during testing intended to figure out why there was vibration related cracking in a steam turbine driven pump system) turned out to be in the controller rather than a mechanical issue. Generally the turbine will have two valves - start/stop and a governor or throttle valve. As we expanded the testing because things weren't adding up, we found that when this system started, both valves were wide open and the controller then closed the throttle valve and ramped it back up.
The ChE curriculum in my day only had 1 required course in Process Control and it was in the senior year. The main Control prof we had at that time was Charlie Moore who had played football as a defensive back at LSU. I still have a clear memory of the departmental softball game that year, where Dr. Moore inexplicably tackled me as I was crossing home plate. He also connected me with the Systems Group at Dow in Plaquemine, LA where he had done consulting and where I ended up going to work, in that same group, when I got out of school. Little did I know they would have me doing software development in Assembly Language in a 2-room trailer for 18 months before I got to transfer into production. And then I became the "controller tuning guy" in a new VCM unit where I spent the next 18 months. Fun times.
 
Thank you, but I have to give all that credit to my prof who taught heat transfer and fluid dynamics. He gave almost the entire class a final grad of "E" when I was a senior. We were all standing around wondering what the hell an "E" was; turns out "E" means you did acceptably well during the quarter (in my days), but the final exam grade was unacceptable. He gave us a take home test - nothing big, just plot the temperature profile along a single fuel tube - not even an entire assembly. He gave us some parameters to start with. So the first thing you have to know is that the coefficient of heat transfer is temperature dependent. So the calculation goes from one and done to iterative. This was before calculators were real common. It took me a week to finally get the answer to converge; as long as I live, I will never forget "m dot c sub p delta t".
Most of mine came from my professional mentor. And we still have that relationship 30 years later. I can hang with him on several topics but we will always have that mentor/protégée relationship. When I was a wee lad engineer and he tasked me to make the world safer for humanity when I went back with my Oliver Twist review of my work if I could not explain to him based in physics what I had done I got my ears boxed and sent packing. To his point I had no idea what I had done thus how do I know if I actually fixed anything. In this day and age there are so many platitudes trying to sound all knowing (root cause analysis, etc...) that are just rehashings of that simple lesson. If you can’t explain what the hell you did then you don’t know what the hell you fixed. It’s about developing critical thinking skills.

Fast forward to today a young engineer will come in and offer him some weak ass explanation. I’ll wait to see if he goes for the jugular but nope “ok that’s good thx” and I’m inside like oh HELL no. So I’ll pop off a couple of probing questions which sometimes are answered and others I get a bewildered look then I go for the jugular.

When they leave I’m like “who the hell are you now some benevolent old grandfather?!” he just laughs.

But the real answer is he’s still mentoring me. It’s my job to administer the tough love now. And I do it. Some young engineers don’t really like working with me as a result of it. Others actually seek me out because of it. And I’m fine on both counts.
 
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Yep. You pegged one 😬

But as in all schools they aren’t ALL a wasteland.

Vandy is a good school I’m sure the instructors are top notch in engineering. But... the student and his/her background and attitude have an impact also. You seem fairly grounded and thus I’d guess your son is too.

Put SMU on the list too. But a young mechanical engineer I just started working with is a SMU grad and I’ll guess he winds up in engineering leadership great maturity for this point in his career.
He is pretty bright - made valid victorian in high school - but decided not to follow Dad's advice to study chemical engineering.

He's majoring in Computer Science instead, which Rice is pretty strong in. So I expect he'll have a shot at some decent jobs when he's done.
 
He is pretty bright - made valid victorian in high school - but decided not to follow Dad's advice to study chemical engineering.

He's majoring in Computer Science instead, which Rice is pretty strong in. So I expect he'll have a shot at some decent jobs when he's done.
Not sure if this is an embarrassing mistake or a volnation throwback classic.
 
Dems usually wind up punishing the responsible. It's what they do. It's a lot like stages of a failed project.

1. Enthusiasm
2. Disillusionment
3. Panic
4. Search for the guilty
5. Punishment of the innocent
6. Praise and honors for the non-participants
This is a great list
 
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If Biden wins it will be a normal day the next day except for the usual dipshits rioting. But nothing will change
If trump wins look for a huge meltdown of crying morons. Maybe even additional riots and fires. The meltdown will be glorious.
Either way I’ll go to work the next day.
I personally think control of the senate is way more important. In the current political climate if Biden wins and the Democrats don’t take the senate then there might as well not be a president because his policies will be dead on his desk.
 
If Biden wins it will be a normal day the next day except for the usual dipshits rioting. But nothing will change
If trump wins look for a huge meltdown of crying morons. Maybe even additional riots and fires. The meltdown will be glorious.
Either way I’ll go to work the next day.
I personally think control of the senate is way more important. In the current political climate if Biden wins and the Democrats don’t take the senate then there might as well not be a president because his policies will be dead on his desk.

But if Biden wins and they take the Senate..Katie bar the door. If Trump wins and they take the Senate..Katie bar the door.
 
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But if Biden wins and they take the Senate..Katie bar the door. If Trump wins and they take the Senate..Katie bar the door.
If they win the presidency and the senate we will have a jimmy carter style economy and a huge swing back in 2 years. When they turn everything to **** with their “being everyone together guy”, then who are they going to blame? It will be nearly impossible to defend their absolute stupidity.
 
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