Poll:The best QB you've seen the last 20

Best QB last 25 years ....iyo

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#27
#27
But, yes...Montana was the last Chiefs' QB to win a playoff game (****ing Elvis Grbac...)
 
#28
#28
therealUT said:
Technically correct, but Elway was throwing the ball to Shannon Sharpe for ten years; Rod Smith was very good and so was Anthony Miller. Elway, like Marino, had targets but no great running back for most of his career (of course, TD changed that and helped Elway get his rings).

I only know this because as a Chiefs fan I watched Elway, Sharpe, Miller, and Smith continually wreak havoc on a great Chiefs defense in the early and mid-90s (Derrick Thomas, Neil Smith, Dale Carter, Deron Cherry).
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Sharpe just left my mind. He was really one of the very first TE you can rely on as a #1 guy. My mistake.

It's so hard to pick "the greatest" because teammates are so important, and the coaching staff has the biggest impact on the game. I mean, switch Elway to San Fran and Montana to Denver, and they aren't as successful. Switch Peyton to New England and he probably has three SB, while Brady has one. It's too hard to pick. It's why nobody ever can pick greatest NFL player ever.

Even though I'm not a big proponent of clutch, I guess I would have to pick the best QB as "Who would you want in the last two minutes of a ballgame?" and my list would be:

Elway- So complete. Also was very mobile in his prime. Could make any throw.

Montana- He just knew where to put the ball at all times.

Manning- Just knew how to pick apart a defense like no other QB.

Brady- He just will slice and dice you, and he knows where the ball should go every play and what situation deems the rigth play.

Marino- He was so accurate, and because of his quick release, you couldn't get pressure on him.
 
#29
#29
therealUT said:
I was really impressed with Rodgers until Flynn came in and put up 480 against Detroit; that planted a seed of doubt and I am now wondering if Rodgers is just a system QB and McCarthy's system is just that good.
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Or Detroit is just that bad?

Noting against Flynn but I don't think he stands a chance in Miami. He had one great day and made bank out of it though.
 
#32
#32
thehardknoxlife said:
Montana dominated big games. Big wins matter more than stats IMO. Let's face it, Manning has lost some big playoff games. I hate to say it but Tom Brady should be getting a lot of votes. He has an unheard of win %. Close to 80% IIRC.
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Defense, bro. It takes like 33 men.
 
#35
#35
MSUDuo said:
Or Detroit is just that bad?

Noting against Flynn but I don't think he stands a chance in Miami. He had one great day and made bank out of it though.
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Kind of hard to do anything if you don't play for the team
 
#36
#36
zjcvols said:
Sharpe just left my mind. He was really one of the very first TE you can rely on as a #1 guy. My mistake.

It's so hard to pick "the greatest" because teammates are so important, and the coaching staff has the biggest impact on the game. I mean, switch Elway to San Fran and Montana to Denver, and they aren't as successful. Switch Peyton to New England and he probably has three SB, while Brady has one. It's too hard to pick. It's why nobody ever can pick greatest NFL player ever.
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I agree; my bias in this debate (the best QB debate) seems to come down to the fact that Elway repeatedly broke my heart as a Chiefs fan. Had I grown up elsewhere, I am not as sure that I would place Elway above Marino (as someone stated earlier, best pure passer I have ever seen).
 
#39
#39
I like Elway, and he had all the physical tools, but I doubt he'd be getting this many votes if he didn't win an SB. I don't think you can argue that Elway was the best player on those championship teams. I'll never be able to understand why SBs are weighted so heavily in QB evaluations.

BTW, Elway only threw 20 TDs 6 times (career max = 27). Career 57% passer.
 
#40
#40
Elway didn't didn't win a lot of Superbowls before Terrell Davis and he never had much success against the Raiders, until the later part of his career. Marino never had a running game or much of a Defense.

If I ran a NFL team and it was somehow possible to pick from all QBs down thru time as they came out of college, I would pick Marino. I wish the Raiders had drafted him.
 
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#41
#41
Kind of a loaded question. Montana had the championships. Elway had the arm and Marino had all the passing records. Different game also when those guys played. You could actually hit the QB and play real defense. Peyton deserves to be right there as far as a complete qb, in his prime he was exactly that. All these guys were great at one time. Brady to me is good but i believe the organization and that system helped him be better than he really is.
 
#43
#43
How important is having a good D to a QB?

Terry Bradshaw, 4 super bowl wins, 4 of the best Ds ever.
Trent Dilfer, 1 super bowl win, one of the best Ds ever.
Jim McMahon, 1 super bowl win, one of the best Ds ever.
Joe Montana, 3 or 4 super bowl wins, good D, good running game.

John Elway, 4 super bowls, first two super bowls with no running game, zero wins.
Peyton Manning, 1 super bowl win, little or no D
Tom Brady, 3 super bowl wins, good D. The NFL misspelled Tuck rule.

Just curious, would anyone here take Difler or McMahon over Marino?
 
#44
#44
It's more difficult to have a good defense today. It's all tailored toward offense and ratings. Those guys played in a different NFL than the one of today.

Defense, running the ball, no matter how boring has a place in this this game. It's a shame they're taking both pretty much out of the equation and making it into arena league ball on steroids.
 
#45
#45
Peyton because he is awesome and went to Tennessee.

However, Dan Marino is very underrated, IMO. Super Bowl victories are not individual accomplishments, so it's mind boggling that people use that as a measure of QBs.
 
#46
#46
n_huffhines said:
I like Elway, and he had all the physical tools, but I doubt he'd be getting this many votes if he didn't win an SB. I don't think you can argue that Elway was the best player on those championship teams. I'll never be able to understand why SBs are weighted so heavily in QB evaluations.

BTW, Elway only threw 20 TDs 6 times (career max = 27). Career 57% passer.
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I agree. Elway is overrated.

Plus he's a huge baby and I don't like him.
 
#47
#47
Had Marino went to another team, say perhaps the Raiders, with Allen and Jackson at RB, and Long, Alzado, Hendricks, Haynes and Hanes, etc. on D, and just coming off a huge SB win over the 'skins, there would probably be no need for this poll. :)
 
#49
#49
I think it's appropriate that Elway was drafted by the Colts and played for the Broncos...
 

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