Poll:The best QB you've seen the last 20

Best QB last 25 years ....iyo


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#77
#77
I wasn't gonna put him or Steve Young on there. Couldn't think of anyone else to round out the whole list of 10


I would have left Aikman off, but putting Steve Young on there was essential. The Niners never had a better offense than in 1994 when Young was running the show.
 
#80
#80
Here's a question. If you ran an NFL team and you could pick any of the above mentioned QBs to be your Quarterback, who would you pick? I'm talking about you picking them now, but the QBs being at the age that they were drafted. I think I'd take Manning.

Elway.

Plus, he was also fairly mobile when he was younger.



....and still to a degree when he was older:

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#81
#81
Well, part of it is also that he led/carried his team to 3 other super bowls (in a period of 4 years) before those last 2 (those last ones possibly being the only ones some newer fans migh remember him for)

I think a lot of times (minus the more casual fan's opinions) he more or less weighed by a combination of both sections

Yeah, but without those SBs in his twilight, he's probably considered to be Jim Kelly (and you said Kelly is underrrated, so you are consistent).
 
#82
#82
Elway; with all the new spread-option looks, Elway would be tough in today's game.

Really interesting thought. I agreed initially, but Elway really didn't win the "big one" until Mike Shanahan brought his running scheme to Denver.
 
#83
#83
Really interesting thought. I agreed initially, but Elway really didn't win the "big one" until Mike Shanahan brought his running scheme to Denver.

Mike "Your mother told you not to make a face like that, because your face might freeze that way" Shanahan?
 
#84
#84
I don't believe it was just TD and Shanahan. Those Broncos teams were generally terrible until his twilight years. And Kubiak might have been the better offensive mind on that staff.
 
#85
#85
Elway; with all the new spread-option looks, Elway would be tough in today's game.

Marion would put up Tom Brady numbers with his release.

Elway was never a huge completion guy, so I don't know how efficient he would have been with a spread offense. But Marino would have destroyed everything in his path.
 
#86
#86
Yeah, but without those SBs in his twilight, he's probably considered to be Jim Kelly (and you said Kelly is underrrated, so you are consistent).

Kelly and Marino are both underrated.

I would take Marino (I think SB's for QB's are so overblown is ridiculous), but he just could not move outside the pocket. Elway was just a little more complete IMO.
 
#87
#87
Best all around - Elway
Best passer - Marino
Most accurate - Montana, Manning, Marino, Aikman, Warner in that order imo. (Each very accurate)
Smartest - Manning (By far imo)
Best decision maker - Brady

Even though Elway likely had the strongest arm, arm strength is the most overrated QB attribute imo - as long as it's strong enough.

Another guy that could be on this list is Jim Kelly. He ran that Buffalo no-huddle very well.

A question I would pose is: Who is the most clutch?

Manning will probably retire with the most 4th quarter comebacks but he isn't as clutch in the playoffs. Favre has a ton of 4th quarter comebacks. Brady up until his last two SBs was as clutch as I've ever seen. Elway also had many notable late-game comebacks.

My 2¢.

I'll add 2cents I like your take on it.
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#88
#88
Joe Montana, 3 or 4 super bowl wins, good D, good running game.

3 or 4? 4-0 in the Super Bowl (XVI, XIX, XXIII, and XXIV) with 3 Super Bowl MVPs.

In those four Super Bowls, Joe's numbers are outstanding.

83/122 (68%), 1142 yds, 11 TDs, 0 Ints, 127.8 rating
 
#89
#89
3 or 4? 4-0 in the Super Bowl (XVI, XIX, XXIII, and XXIV) with 3 Super Bowl MVPs.

In those four Super Bowls, Joe's numbers are outstanding.

83/122 (68%), 1142 yds, 11 TDs, 0 Ints, 127.8 rating

Sorry, I don't follow the niners. Joe Montana was a good QB, no doubt. But how well do you think he would have fared on some of Marino's dolphin teams, or Manning's colt teams? He was good, but he also had many good players around him.
 
#90
#90
Sorry, I don't follow the niners. Joe Montana was a good QB, no doubt. But how well do you think he would have fared on some of Marino's dolphin teams, or Manning's colt teams? He was good, but he also had many good players around him.

I do not think he would have fared well with Marino's Dolphins teams; however, I think Montana would have done fine in Indy with Faulk, Harrison, James, Wayne, Clark, etc.

Also, take Montana away from soggy Candlestick and put him in a dome...
 
#91
#91
I do not think he would have fared well with Marino's Dolphins teams; however, I think Montana would have done fine in Indy with Faulk, Harrison, James, Wayne, Clark, etc.

Also, take Montana away from soggy Candlestick and put him in a dome...

There are a lot of QBs who had success in Candlestick, so I don't think that really factors. Jeff Garcia had 3 pro bowl seasons there.

Montana would've been missing his D in Indianapolis, but yeah, Manning has had great weapons through the years.
 
#92
#92
Manning - and not because I'm a homer (ok, partially because I'm a homer).

Look at the Colts without Manning. He isn't the most decorated QB in the last 25 years, but he is by far the most talented.
 
#93
#93
Tom Brady is overrated, IMO. He owes alot to Belechick
 
#94
#94
Was looking up how they fared head to head and it seems kind of odd that Marino & Elway only played each other 3 times from 85 to 99.

I've seen Manning make some of the hardest throws look easy. The Colts had in Manning not just a QB, but a offensive coordinator too.
 
#95
#95
The thing that works in Manning's favor is that virtually none of his weapons have gone elsewhere and done anything noteworthy.

Harrison, Clark, and Wayne don't count because they basically played their whole careers with Manning, but if you look at Edgerrin James, Ken Dilger, Marcus Pollard, Dominic Rhodes, Brandon Stokley, etc. you'll see that by far their best years were with Manning.

Manning has consistently made his guys better. I'm interested in seeing what Garcon and Collie do with the rest of their careers. Before his injury in 2010, Collie was the most productive WR in the NFL. That's incredible.
 
#96
#96
Tom Brady is overrated, IMO. He owes alot to Belechick

He's good, can't argue with SB wins, but.....

Knowing the other team's plays helps a little, also. And the NLF "tucked" him under their wings. :)
 
#97
#97
The thing that works in Manning's favor is that virtually none of his weapons have gone elsewhere and done anything noteworthy.

Harrison, Clark, and Wayne don't count because they basically played their whole careers with Manning, but if you look at Edgerrin James, Ken Dilger, Marcus Pollard, Dominic Rhodes, Brandon Stokley, etc. you'll see that by far their best years were with Manning.

Manning has consistently made his guys better. I'm interested in seeing what Garcon and Collie do with the rest of their careers. Before his injury in 2010, Collie was the most productive WR in the NFL. That's incredible.

Also, when Peyton was gone for the season, that team went 2-14 (in a weak division).

When Tom Brady was gone for the season, that team went 11-5 (in a tough division too).

Cassell is obviously better than Painter, but that's a huge difference.
 
#98
#98
Manning, Elway, and Marino are my all time favorite quarterbacks. All three of them could do things on the field that others couldn't do.

The Super Bowl argument is not valid as stated by previous posters. Dilfer has more super bowls than Marino. How many out of 100 will take Dilfer? Nada

Also, Peyton will have a chance to win another ring, if he stays healthy. He's going to be playing with the best defense of his career in Denver with all the talent they have and Del Rio and John Fox running it.
 
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