Pollution......we’re all going to die.

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hog88 said:
Federal courts
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I guess that'd work as long there are guidelines, or existing standards. I'm not for doing away with the EPA, but having a panel similar to the SCOTUS seems intriguing. Actually, maybe that's how it's setup.. I'm not sure how that works.

At any rate, I'm not sure if it should be an appointed position.
 
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I think the surfer dudes I see on TV commercials have the best plan. Run a bunch of ads on American TV, sell melted plastic bracelets for big bucks and get rich off of a pickup truck load of plastic bottles.
 
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VolStrom said:
I think the surfer dudes I see on TV commercials have the best plan. Run a bunch of ads on American TV, sell melted plastic bracelets for big bucks and get rich off of a pickup truck load of plastic bottles.
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I'm cynical about those guys as well, but if they're even making things better for surfers, I say run with it.
 
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RavinDave said:
Plasma will do it. May be energy intensive but have seen some prototypes getting .gov funding.
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It's been around for a long time. My wife's company was looking at it in the mid 2000's. I think with development it could work.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
It's been around for a long time. My wife's company was looking at it in the mid 2000's. I think with development it could work.
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It’s able to convert almost anything organic into syngas. For about 2 years I’ve been involved in supporting a project in California based on feeding waste from shelling of almonds and hazelnuts through a plasma converter and then a fermenter that converts the syngas into ethanol. Supposedly it has been funded and hopefully will order catalyst eventually for the removal of trace acetylene and O2 from the syngas.
 
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RavinDave said:
It’s able to convert almost anything organic into syngas. For about 2 years I’ve been involved in supporting a project in California based on feeding waste from shelling of almonds and hazelnuts through a plasma converter and then a fermenter that converts the syngas into ethanol. Supposedly it has been funded and hopefully will order catalyst eventually for the removal of trace acetylene and O2 from the syngas.
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Unfortunately, plastic isn't an organic, so in reality, it won't help this situation. I, as a matter of personal choice, decline plastic straws, plates, and utensils when I can.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Unfortunately, plastic isn't an organic, so in reality, it won't help this situation. I, as a matter of personal choice, decline plastic straws, plates, and utensils when I can.
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Not sure it won’t work on plastics too. Do you know it won’t work on plastics or were you basing this off of my “anything organic” statement? I really meant, anything with a carbon-based chemistry.
 
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McDad said:
I have had an idea for a while and I want to get your insight considering your occupation.

Do you think much of the plastic waste could be recycled into building materials? I'm thinking of external items like decking, fascia, siding, etc. But aslo interior components like mouldings, framing studs, backer board. Studs, for example, could be engineered with say a 60/40 plastics to wood chip held together with the help of strong adhesives.
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Sshhhh! I'm not sure where the real wood goes, but most of what you find in stores looks like it is already material to be recycled. And trim ...
 
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Grand Vol said:
I know Vinyl gets used as siding. Why can't other plastics get used as other building materials? I.E. #6 into insulation? PET into structural components out of the sunlight? Etc.
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One thing to consider is fire. Apparently fake mulch made from ground up tires isn't a favorite with fire departments. We've re-sided our house with Hardie plank. I don't know what the environmental costs may be, but I like it a lot better than being wrapped in vinyl or even the wood we replaced.
 
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hog88 said:
Stay in your lane councilor, almost every damn Enviromental regulation increases pollution on one end or the other while minimally decreasing the intended pollutants.
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Probably because the EPA is run by and staffed with lawyers rather than people who actually know something about materials and the environment around us.
 
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McDad said:
is EcoStud engineered with plastics or is it a wood product?

Also, do you think recycled tires could be used in roofing/shingles?
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You don't want burning and molten synthetic rubber raining down on you if the house catches fire. And it would be like trying to extinguish a tire fire.
 
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AM64 said:
One thing to consider is fire. Apparently fake mulch made from ground up tires isn't a favorite with fire departments. We've re-sided our house with Hardie plank. I don't know what the environmental costs may be, but I like it a lot better than being wrapped in vinyl or even the wood we replaced.
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Vinyl is garbage.
Fiber cement board is the way to go.
Hardy board is the generic term because they were first. But James Hardy has a class action lawsuit against their pre colored boards. As far as I know the primers boards that have to be painted have no issues. There are other brands that are every bit as good and are less expensive. Which is what I used on my house
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Vinyl is garbage.
Fiber cement board is the way to go.
Hardy board is the generic term because they were first. But James Hardy has a class action lawsuit against their pre colored boards. As far as I know the primers boards that have to be painted have no issues. There are other brands that are every bit as good and are less expensive. Which is what I used on my house
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Ours is pre painted Hardie. It's been up a few years with no problems. The one thing I did find before deciding on it what that there can be problems if the back is exposed to moisture, which is probably the reason for the wrap that goes under the boards. I'll have to find and read up on the class action thing.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
We were supposed to close on property on the mountain today but it got pushed till next Wednesday. There’s a perk test issue.

Anyway....we’re likely going to build the new house out of metal studs as well as other materials that don’t easily burn.
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I'm not going to jinx it by saying anything more, but we've got a septic system. It works well and puts moisture right back into the ground. Unless you have a well, it has always seemed to be the best residential solution.
 
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AM64 said:
One thing to consider is fire. Apparently fake mulch made from ground up tires isn't a favorite with fire departments. We've re-sided our house with Hardie plank. I don't know what the environmental costs may be, but I like it a lot better than being wrapped in vinyl or even the wood we replaced.
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We are using brick.
 
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AM64 said:
I'm not going to jinx it by saying anything more, but we've got a septic system. It works well and puts moisture right back into the ground. Unless you have a well, it has always seemed to be the best residential solution.
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We are on septic also.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
We were supposed to close on property on the mountain today but it got pushed till next Wednesday. There’s a perk test issue.

Anyway....we’re likely going to build the new house out of metal studs as well as other materials that don’t easily burn.
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Make that drainfield jumbo sized. Although it can be difficult on mountain prooerty, if you are on a slope. I'm trying to workout where to relocate ours.

Meanwhile I need some space aged bacteria to help with my existing one.
 
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