'25 Portal Thread

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SouthKnoxVOL said:
Yeah Ole Miss had 25 transfers...they had a great year...they must be undefeated...oh wait.....
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Ole Miss improved in almost every category despite losing several key players to the first l draft/portal.

Seemed like it worked out well for them.
 
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It was still worth going over to the Bama board where they are actively melting down. And the mods are giving the fans false hope with stuff like this: "The only thing is that the NCAA will, with the House settlement, have a clearinghouse of all NIL deals over $600."

My guy, you obviously don't know law because I don't either but I know enough to know that when the Supreme Court says you can't limit NIL, the second your cute little "Clearinghouse" tries to do just that, you're getting sued and you're going to lose.
 
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Carp said:
Gotta give it to Lane and the OM crew. They see an opportunity to finally put OM into the upper tier of CFB teams and they are pulling out all of the stops to get there.
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Worked so well for them this season, right? What happens if they underperform yet again this season? If I was an Ole Miss donor, I wouldn't be too excited to donate to a coach who fails to do his job year after year after I've done mine.
 
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KingVFL said:
Transfers are fools gold. We've relied on it too much to date and should far less going forward.

Transfers in the starting 22 by the team's ahead of us in the CFB Playoffs:
  1. Oregon - 14
  2. Georgia - 2
  3. Texas - 6
  4. Penn State - 3
  5. Notre Dame - 4
  6. Ohio State - 3
We have 8.

We need to recruit high school better and develop better. Not do more the portal.
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I don't hear much about recruiting JUCO athletes these days.
Has the Transfer Portal made JUCOs obsolete?
What got me thinking about JUCOs is the same argument had been made many times in the past against recruiting them as the one you're making against portal athletes.
I always thought it was a roll of the dice to take a JUCO.
Not that we haven't had some great ones. But in the long run, a program is better off recruiting and developing high school kids along with a portal athlete now and again to fill immediate, emergency type needs. But sometimes there are portal players available who are just too good to resist.

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LaagerVol said:
Oh, I didn’t realize we were arguing, thought it was just a discussion. 👍🏼
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RandomUTfan said:
People aren't typically argumentative in simple discussions. It's horrible I have to explain this to you. When you become argumentative, it becomes an argument.
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The sooner y'all accept I'm right and you're wrong, the sooner we can all find peace.
 
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Type Orange+ said:
I don't hear much about recruiting JUCO athletes these days.
Has the Transfer Portal made JUCOs obsolete?
What got me thinking about JUCOs is the same argument had been made many times in the past against recruiting them as the one you're making against portal athletes.
I always thought it was a roll of the dice to take a JUCO.
Not that we haven't had some great ones. But in the long run, a program is better off recruiting and developing high school kids along with a portal athlete now and again to fill immediate, emergency type needs. But sometimes there are portal players available who are just too good to resist.

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JUCO is basically talentless now that the portal is a thing and players don't have to spend a year in JUCO to be eligible to transfer someplace new. The successful JUCO players we've had historically were in JUCO for that reason. It was rarely because they didn't get much attention coming out of HS, although we had relative success with some of those guys too. Kongbo may be a decent example of that.
 
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Heupel's Offseason Beard said:
Worked so well for them this season, right? What happens if they underperform yet again this season? If I was an Ole Miss donor, I wouldn't be too excited to donate to a coach who fails to do his job year after year after I've done mine.
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They're averaging like 10 wins a season over the last 4 years. For a program that has barely been relevant on the national level for decades, I'd say it's going pretty well.
 
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RandomUTfan said:
I agree with almost none of this but I'll just pick out "take that next step..." My guy, what step has this program not taken yet that would prove to you it's all in on winning championships? I bet there isn't one. Because if you haven't figured out already we are in the elite category when it comes to having the ability to win titles, I doubt anything would convince you short of winning it, which isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility THIS year! There's a whole lot more wrong with this but I'm just going to leave it there.
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Heupel has done a great job at resurrecting what was seemingly a dead program in a time most of us didn’t think was possible. However look at the amount our assistants get paid in comparison to what Georgia’s get paid and the amount we spend on recruiting compared to them and ask yourself if we’re as serious about winning a championship as they are. We’re also a long way from winning a national championship roster wise if you look at the blue chip ratios of every national championship team outside of Auburn in 2010 and Michigan last year. Outside of those two instances every national champion has been in the top 5-6 in talent. We’re currently at 17 and likely not cracking the top 10 anytime soon unless we sign back to back top 3-5 classes and bring in a few studs in the portal the next 2 years, at minimum you need a blue chip ratio of 55 (we’re at 50 withor Cam Newton on your team to win a championship and we’re not really approaching either. We also don’t seem to use the portal to upgrade talent. We NEED a proven WR this season. Not only does it give Nico more weapons but it also pushes Mike Matthews and Brazzell to get better. At the moment we have 3 receivers next year that are at no threat of losing their starting spots regardless of how they perform, and that’s a serious problem to have. Truthfully we need a stud and a rotational piece with multiple years of eligibility considering the 3 guys we brought in are statistically more likely to enter the portal than become a starter here
 
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VawlIn said:
Heupel has done a great job at resurrecting what was seemingly a dead program in a time most of us didn’t think was possible. However look at the amount our assistants get paid in comparison to what Georgia’s get paid and the amount we spend on recruiting compared to them and ask yourself if we’re as serious about winning a championship as they are. We’re also a long way from winning a national championship roster wise if you look at the blue chip ratios of every national championship team outside of Auburn in 2010 and Michigan last year. Outside of those two instances every national champion has been in the top 5-6 in talent. We’re currently at 17 and likely not cracking the top 10 anytime soon unless we sign back to back top 3-5 classes and bring in a few studs in the portal the next 2 years, at minimum you need a blue chip ratio of 55 (we’re at 50 withor Cam Newton on your team to win a championship and we’re not really approaching either. We also don’t seem to use the portal to upgrade talent. We NEED a proven WR this season. Not only does it give Nico more weapons but it also pushes Mike Matthews and Brazzell to get better. At the moment we have 3 receivers next year that are at no threat of losing their starting spots regardless of how they perform, and that’s a serious problem to have. Truthfully we need a stud and a rotational piece with multiple years of eligibility considering the 3 guys we brought in are statistically more likely to enter the portal than become a starter here
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Brother, if you're convinced Tennessee isn't as serious as Georgia about winning championships, then we don't need to converse. That's just ludicrous and there's a mountain of evidence to prove that false versus your very circumstantial evidence that doesn't back up your claim.
 
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KingVFL said:
Transfers are fools gold. We've relied on it too much to date and should far less going forward.

Transfers in the starting 22 by the team's ahead of us in the CFB Playoffs:
  1. Oregon - 14
  2. Georgia - 2
  3. Texas - 6
  4. Penn State - 3
  5. Notre Dame - 4
  6. Ohio State - 3
We have 8.

We need to recruit high school better and develop better. Not do more the portal.
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We're in the CFP with those 8 transfer starters. Oregon is undefeated B10 champs and the #1 seed with 14. How is it fools gold? Where would we be without Karic and Heard and Campbell and Thornton and Brazzell and Bru and Staes and Kits and ONL and Pili and McCoy and Jakobe and Turrentine?
 
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Carp said:
They're averaging like 10 wins a season over the last 4 years. For a program that has barely been relevant on the national level for decades, I'd say it's going pretty well.
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For a group who obsesses over recruiting and portal rankings, you'd think you'd expect more from that #1 portal ranking that everyone was raving about last year
 
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