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BowlBrother85 said:
The extremes which you loons feel the need to go to, in order to convince yourselves that a pathological liar is right this time ... and really was cheated out of the 2020 Presidential Election are pitiful.

There is not a set of conditions or circumstances under which Donald Trump would ever admit that he lost a fair election. Trump will always attribute any electoral defeat to either some form of fraud, or to his opponent having cheated, and yet, you desperately want to believe that he is right - even after he signaled his intention to claim that he was cheated - months before the election was even held.

Republicans/Trump supporters are a cult of pathetic and lonely losers.
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You're a hardcore, extremist Biden supporter. You have no leg to stand on.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is just more partisan BS, that is being done in order to placate the egotistical needs of Donald Trump.

That doesn't establish anything, except that Trump and his minions are bitter and vindictive people. Brad Raffensperger was easily re-elected in 2022. Once again, cite a specific allegation of fraud or cheating involving the 2020 Presidential Election, and I will de-bunk it with multiple links to sources of information, including at least one from a local news media outlet from within the specific jurisdiction in which this alleged fraud or cheating supposedly occurred.
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The U of Georgia is a right wing bias source...?
 
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jmacvols1 said:
Waiting on you to prove all 81 million votes were legitimate and no fraud at all took place.
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Some fraud did take place, Some fraud always does - from both sides.

My contention is that the 2020 Presidential Election did not involve more than the standard amount of lone wolf incidents of fraud which will occur in every Presidential Election. I also contend that there is no evidence that systemic fraud occurred, significant enough in nature, to have altered the outcome of even one state, much less some combination of 3 swing states, which would have been needed to impact the winner of the overall election.

Now, once again ..... make a specific allegation involving fraud or cheating in the 2020 Presidential Election, and I will de-bunk it, with multiple links to sources of information, including at least one link to a local news media outlet from within the specific jurisdiction in which the alleged fraud or cheating supposedly occurred.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
The U of Georgia is a right wing bias source...?
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I wasn't talking about the source ... The Georgia State Senate is biased .... and just doing Donald Trump's bidding in launching a smear of an investigation, because like yourself, they are members of his cult. They have proven nothing. Brad Raffensperger is a Republican. So is Brian Kemp. This is pathetic.
 
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just bob said:
You're a hardcore, extremist Biden supporter. You have no leg to stand on.
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No, I'm not! That is a lie.

I can't stand Joe Biden. I have repeatedly said that he is the epitome of a career politician and that he stands for everything which is wrong with our system of government. Joe Biden is a weak and feckless leader. He doesn't inspire anyone ... including me. I have been far more critical of Joe Biden on this forum than the right-wing echo chamber has ever been of Donald Trump.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
What difference does it make in who reports the news as long as the news reported is factual, accurate? The GA SOS should be investigated.

Liberal media have been proven to be biased liars time and again.
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Don't waste your time with BB. It's not worth your time. He still believes "factcheckers" are unbiased. His "debunking" is basically just finding an article that says what he wants it to say which most times does not prove anything but is basically somebody stating that "there's nothing to see here".
 
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VolinWayne said:
Don't waste your time with BB. It's not worth your time. He still believes "factcheckers" are unbiased. His "debunking" is basically just finding an article that says what he wants it to say which most times does not prove anything but is basically somebody stating that "there's nothing to see here".
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Wrong.

As I have repeatedly said ... make a specific allegation of fraud or cheating involving the 2020 Presidential Election and I will de-bunk it with multiple links to sources of information, including at least one from a local news media outlet from within the specific jurisdiction in which the alleged fraud or cheating supposedly occurred.

I remember how long you harped on the lies concerning Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss .... and how you didn't admit that you were wrong when Rudy Giuliani's own attorney admitted that they were lies in court before a judge. That is what the Cult of Trump does. You just move on to the next series of lies. The truth doesn't matter .... The only thing that matters is protecting your cult leader's ego. You are a mindless sheep.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
No, I'm not! That is a lie.

I can't stand Joe Biden. I have repeatedly said that he is the epitome of a career politician and that he stands for everything which is wrong with our system of government. Joe Biden is a weak and feckless leader. He doesn't inspire anyone ... including me. I have been far more critical of Joe Biden on this forum than the right-wing echo chamber has ever been of Donald Trump.
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I am aghast, I may have had you confused with another poster.

I do wish we had a much better choice than Trump. I'm not a fan of how he handled his last year despite everything thrown at him - not understanding how deep the government rot is. I'm a DeSantis guy when it comes to the primaries, so....., yeah.....
 
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Have any of you ever thought about this?

Even if you move both of the two most heavily contested states from the 2020 Presidential Election to Donald Trump's win column (Georgia and Arizona), it still leaves Trump short of the 270 electoral college vote threshold needed in order to win a Presidential Election. In order for Donald Trump to reach 270 electoral college votes, a 3rd swing state would also need to be flipped, but which state could that possibly be?

Joe Biden won Wisconsin by 20,000 votes.
Joe Biden won Nevada by 38,000 votes.
Joe Biden won Pennsylvania by 80,000 votes.
Joe Biden won Michigan by 140,000 votes.

The 2020 Presidential Election wasn't like Florida in 2000, where you had one state decide the entire election by less than 600 total votes. The 2020 Presidential Election was truly not very close at all. Yet, it has been the most heavily scrutinized election in history, all to appease the egotistical needs of a narcissist and his cult following. What did the partisan Cyber Ninjas 6 month audit of Maricopa County, Arizona yield? A net gain of votes for Joe Biden. How pathetic was that? The Cyber Ninjas had been hand-picked to perform the audit by the 2020 Donald Trump Campaign.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Wrong.

As I have repeatedly said ... make a specific allegation of fraud or cheating involving the 2020 Presidential Election and I will de-bunk it with multiple links to sources of information, including at least one from a local news media outlet from within the specific jurisdiction in which the alleged fraud or cheating supposedly occurred.

I remember how long you harped on the lies concerning Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss .... and how you didn't admit that you were wrong when Rudy Giuliani's own attorney admitted that they were lies in court before a judge. That is what the Cult of Trump does. You just move on to the next series of lies. The truth doesn't matter .... The only thing that matters is protecting your cult leader's ego. You are a mindless sheep.
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I'm not the one obsessed with Trump here. I rarely even talk about him any more. For myself this whole "stolen election" thing has been about actual election integrity, not about Donald Trump....I'll admit that at one point in my life I did think to highly of Trump but I have finally come to the realization that no earthly man is going to save America.

Just a few pointers for you to consider. If you want anybody in life to take you the least bit serious consider trying to have a conversation without attempting to insult them by calling them names.....and stop with the whole "Trump cult" thing. It really makes you look childish. (Maybe you are a child which would explain it all).
 
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VolinWayne said:
I'm not the one obsessed with Trump here. I rarely even talk about him any more. This whole "stolen election" thing has been about actual election integrity, not about Donald Trump....I'll admit that at one point in my life I did think to highly of Trump but I have finally come to the realization that no earthly man is going to save America.

Just a few pointers for you to consider. If you want anybody in life to take you the least bit serious consider trying to have a conversation without attempting to insult them by calling them names.....and stop with the whole "Trump cult" thing. It really makes you look childish. (Maybe you are a child which would explain it all).
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The cult label 100% applies here. I wouldn't use it lightly.
 
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Just a reminder, if Trump had performed as well as a lower quartile Republican (the bottom 25 percentile) in just 1 Arizona county (Maricopa) or as well as David Perdue in Nov 2020, Trump wins both AZ and GA...
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Just a reminder, if Trump had performed as well as a lower quartile Republican (the bottom 25 percentile) in just 1 Arizona county (Maricopa) or as well as David Perdue in Nov 2020, Trump wins both AZ and GA...
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.... the point I will always come back to :

Even if Donald Trump had won both Arizona and Georgia, he would have still been short of the 270 electoral college votes needed to win a Presidential Election. I never see that fact considered by people who claim that the 2020 Presidential Election was rigged against Donald Trump.
 
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VolinWayne said:
You are entitled to your own opinion. I'm simply trying to help you out and tell you how ridiculously silly it makes you look when you repeat it every other post.
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.... and I will admit that I overdo it with the rant sometimes. It's been 3 steady years of this crap ... but still, I probably do act like a jerk.
 
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Here's what I don't understand:

Democrats have won the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 presidential elections. Why is it so shocking to Trump supporters that he lost the election in 2020? Shouldn't the other losers have made the same argument (meaning the election is a fraud and the other person is cheating)??

The GOP is on the record after losing the 2012 election saying they needed to go back to the drawing board on how they attract a more diverse group of voters.

Unfortunately, this never happened and the vacuum was filled by someone who doubled-down on those things many white, middle-class Americans fear.
 
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#3,819
As conpared to 2016, Trump lost between 3-6% in the purple/red suburbs of Detroit, Philly, and Atlanta and underperformed almost every R in Maricopa. That's the only reason why he isn't POTUS now....

Trump didn't lose MI in Detroit or GA in ATL, he lost it with voters that normally slightly lean R that didn't vote for him in the areas around those cities.
 
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lostsheep said:
Here's what I don't understand:

Democrats have won the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 presidential elections. Why is it so shocking to Trump supporters that he lost the election in 2020? Shouldn't the other losers have made the same argument (meaning the election is a fraud and the other person is cheating)??

The GOP is on the record after losing the 2012 election saying they needed to go back to the drawing board on how they attract a more diverse group of voters.

Unfortunately, this never happened and the vacuum was filled by someone who doubled-down on those things many white, middle-class Americans fear.
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Uuhh......they did. Do we need to go back and dig up the some of the old videos.
 
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#3,821
VolinWayne said:
Uuhh......they did. Do we need to go back and dig up the some of the old videos.
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LOL.

Any reasonable person can see the difference in the extremes that Republicans have gone to, in order to placate the ego of Donald Trump. It has been a steady flow of BS for 3 years now.

Trump will even blame fraud for his defeat months before the election is even held. Trump will always campaign with the slogan :

"The only way I can lose this election, is if it is rigged."

It's a pre-emptive excuse for losing. Donald Trump said that months before both the 2016 and the 2020 Presidential General Elections were even held, and he will definitely do it again in 2024.

There is not a scenario or a set conditions or circumstances in which Donald Trump would ever lose an election, without completely attributing his defeat to either some form of fraud, or to his opponent having cheated. It's all about his ego .... and yet, his followers still support his efforts to de-legitimize his election defeat anyway. Why? Are you really that stupid?
 
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lostsheep said:
Here's what I don't understand:

Democrats have won the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 presidential elections. Why is it so shocking to Trump supporters that he lost the election in 2020? Shouldn't the other losers have made the same argument (meaning the election is a fraud and the other person is cheating)??

The GOP is on the record after losing the 2012 election saying they needed to go back to the drawing board on how they attract a more diverse group of voters.

Unfortunately, this never happened and the vacuum was filled by someone who doubled-down on those things many white, middle-class Americans fear.
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Incredibly .... Republicans did accuse Hillary Clinton and Democrats of being sore losers from 2017-2020. They may have even had a point at times. However, whatever high ground they used to have on the issue of being professional in handling a Presidential Election defeat, has been blown to hell by their own collective conduct in the last 3 years.
 
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#3,823
Remember that Democrats were the ones saying that our voting machines were vulnerable to being hacked, the vendors were shady, and that it was possible to switch votes.

This was their position until after the 2020 election when telling the truth about our broken and corrupt election system no longer served them politically.

 
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