Practice #3 - Updates

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With RF leaving it's stark how somber the QB discussion has gotten. I've not seen or heard anything overly positive about the position since practice fired up. Outside of QB camps.
 
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gunner said:
No offense to him but he doesn't possess the skills as the other QB's.
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Based on what information?

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...That's what I thought.

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Fingers said:
I mean, I really don't think there's any chance that Worley isn't starting against Utah State. Does anyone think Dobbs might actually win the job before the first game?

Competition is good and all, but I don't understand why Jones just didn't name Worley the starter, make him a captain and move on. There have been rumblings that Worley was upset that he wasn't chosen to go to SEC Media Days and I don't see any reason why he shouldn't have gone. JMO.
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And when they name you coach at UT, Worley will go to media days and already be named starting QB. But until then, he, like the other competitors, will actually have to earn those privileges. Maybe, in spite of your bromance with him, he really hasn't. Could be you know. Has the interim coach, until you take over, Butch Jones, passed on any secret info to you? Share please.
 
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DD4ME said:
With RF leaving it's stark how somber the QB discussion has gotten. I've not seen or heard anything overly positive about the position since practice fired up. Outside of QB camps.
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Huh? Swain and Ainge both raved over Worley... did you miss it?
 
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trampas2bad said:
And when they name you coach at UT, Worley will go to media days and already be named starting QB. But until then, he, like the other competitors, will actually have to earn those privileges. Maybe, in spite of your bromance with him, he really hasn't. Could be you know. Has the interim coach, until you take over, Butch Jones, passed on any secret info to you? Share please.
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The Worley-hate is strong with this one... You are likely to be disappointed when the 1st O takes the field vs USU. Barring something pretty extraordinary... the guy who keeps going out with the ones practice after practice will be going out with the ones on gameday.

If someone else starts sharing the #1 reps on a regular basis or replaces Worley altogether... then you can reasonably doubt who tops the depth chart.
 
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trampas2bad said:
And when they name you coach at UT, Worley will go to media days and already be named starting QB. But until then, he, like the other competitors, will actually have to earn those privileges. Maybe, in spite of your bromance with him, he really hasn't. Could be you know. Has the interim coach, until you take over, Butch Jones, passed on any secret info to you? Share please.
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Dude, it's a message board, where we share opinions. Ya' know? Stop acting like we aren't allowed to question things that the staff does sometimes.

I think Worley will start. I think he's already earned it and most others in the media share my opinion. It's no big secret.

Are you saying you don't believe Worley will be the starter against Utah State? Or are you just abstaining from discussion because you're going to sit back and trust Butch?
 
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It looks pretty clearly to be Worley as the starter. As for him not being named the starter yet, has ANYONE been named a starter at any position? I just don't think it is something this staff does.
 
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It is kind of frustrating for me that a QB starter has not emerged or been named the starter. I understand Butch wants to create competition but the same thing happened last year and we will likely be doing the same thing at this time next year.... Just ready for us to have a consistent starter that receivers can get comfortable with.


Your QB is supposed to be the alpha male and really control you offense... and its hard for one of them to do that when they don't have the credibility of being named a starter.
 
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Big Orange 98 said:
It is kind of frustrating for me that a QB starter has not emerged or been named the starter. I understand Butch wants to create competition but the same thing happened last year and we will likely be doing the same thing at this time next year.... Just ready for us to have a consistent starter that receivers can get comfortable with.


Your QB is supposed to be the alpha male and really control you offense... and its hard for one of them to do that when they don't have the credibility of being named a starter.
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We name a starter...so he can prepare for this weekend's game? :huh: Not sure why there's a rush.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Nope I just decided to become a fan of a 5-7 football team overnight because I like smokie dogs. Palardy did well last year but was never really a threat for fg 45 yards or more
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Long of 51 last year. 14 of 17 overall. Sorry to be a smartarse there, but Palardy was outstanding last year.
 
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Big Orange 98 said:
It is kind of frustrating for me that a QB starter has not emerged or been named the starter. I understand Butch wants to create competition but the same thing happened last year and we will likely be doing the same thing at this time next year.... Just ready for us to have a consistent starter that receivers can get comfortable with.


Your QB is supposed to be the alpha male and really control you offense... and its hard for one of them to do that when they don't have the credibility of being named a starter.
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Who goes out with the ones practically every time they take the practice field?

FWIW, the way they run practice, none of the receivers or QB's should have any issues with familiarity. Have you watched the practice videos? Arm fatigue would be a bigger concern than not enough reps.
 
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So far Butch has handled the QB situation ok. If you want to see how to screw up a QB roster competition and let it affect the entire team see 2005 TN and some of fulmer's decisions between clausen and ainge.
 
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I haven't heard anyone on staff even hint at who the starter will be. It will sort itself out, but in the end, I think Dobbs ends up winning out. Worley doesn't offer anything more than Dobbs does, in the passing game.

He no longer has the experience advantage over Dobbs, and CBJ would be sacrificing all the big splash plays Dobbs can give you, with his mobility. I'm sure CBJ would like to reward Worley as a senior...but at the end of the day, he has to play the guy he thinks he has the best chance to win with.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
I haven't heard anyone on staff even hint at who the starter will be.
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Yes they have. Worley has gone and is going out with the 1's almost all of the time. Dobbs and Ferguson are splitting times between the 2's and 3's. That suggests the battle is for #2... not #1. (Until today when NP got 1st team reps)

It will sort itself out, but in the end, I think Dobbs ends up winning out. Worley doesn't offer anything more than Dobbs does, in the passing game.
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JW still has the stronger arm and so far this fall has been more accurate. I really like Dobbs so I won't be disappointed if he overtakes Worley... but there are plenty of signs that he has ground to make up. It is doubtful he overtakes JW before game 1. (I like NP too... and still think both have ground to make up to be the starter)

He no longer has the experience advantage over Dobbs,
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Actually, he still does have a fairly significant experience advantage. He also played under tremendous pressure as a Fr and has had 4 full years of development even considering some of it might not have been great.

and CBJ would be sacrificing all the big splash plays Dobbs can give you, with his mobility.
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That is true running the ball but getting the ball to the right playmaker is the more important "big splash play"... and Worley still seems to have a sizeable lead in that regard.

I'm sure CBJ would like to reward Worley as a senior...but at the end of the day, he has to play the guy he thinks he has the best chance to win with.
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I don't think CBJ sees it that way. I think there was some of that last year as he worked on program foundations but his duty in that regard now is to the guys who have signed with him and stuck with him. If he didn't currently believe that Worley was the guy who gave them the best chance to win then someone else would be getting the 1st team reps.
 
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I'll restate what several on here said. It's what I think is the most important item noted in this discussion.

Worley is getting the vast majority of reps with likely first team players.

Also, if you watch the drills, there's usually more than one ball being thrown at a time. So, while the number of reps may be "equally split," the first team personnel seems to be pretty set.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
I haven't heard anyone on staff even hint at who the starter will be. It will sort itself out, but in the end, I think Dobbs ends up winning out. Worley doesn't offer anything more than Dobbs does, in the passing game.

He no longer has the experience advantage over Dobbs, and CBJ would be sacrificing all the big splash plays Dobbs can give you, with his mobility. I'm sure CBJ would like to reward Worley as a senior...but at the end of the day, he has to play the guy he thinks he has the best chance to win with.
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At this point, it's looking like Jones and staff prefer a pocket passer who can throw on the run over a true dual threat QB. I don't think Dobbs running ability will make him the starter if he can't get it done through the air. Dobbs seems to be really battling Peterman for the back-up role, sadly. I, for one, thought that after starting several games as a true freshman, Dobbs would push Worley this year and definitely be the starter next season, but a true freshman starting QB in 2015 is not looking as unlikely as it once did IMO.
 
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Interesting development with Peterman getting 1st team reps today. Two "Hmm's"- 1) He's getting the shot and 2) he's getting the shot ahead of Dobbs.
 
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