Practice #4 - Updates

[sjt18]

I do not see the improvement in Worley. At least 70% of his throws are behind the receiver or too high/low. Dobbs seems to hit the receiver in stride. Maybe Justin considers throwing to the outside shoulder a good thing, but it looks more like he is just missing far too many throws.

My .02 worth for free!

You are seeing what you want to see. Dobbs isn't throwing it well either... and I like all three guys. Peterman may be getting 1st team reps because he's throwing it better. He seems to be doing so in the clips we see.

 

[DD4ME]

Cincy fans complained about him going back and forth and it was brought up during the initial hire. He just seems to have specific things he wants from the position and isn't shy about shuffling QBs. I'm not saying he will have the same success, but Spurrier has done it for years.

Spurrier also got bit doing it. Lest we forget the pre Garcia time frame and during Garcia drama. Hell Garcia is a good example where Spurrier would name a starter even if he was a drunken obnoxious fool.

 

[Falcons02]

What. The. ****. Is wrong with some of you?

It's laughable that some people are calling CBJ a "failure" because he hasn't named a starting QB. The people that believe Butch is telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth regarding the position are delusional.

Bunch of Obama voters/supporters up in here. Pull your head out of your stink hole and see the light.

I hope he names Nate the starter just to see the reaction this place will have.

Agreed up to the politcal BS. Keep that crap in the off topic forum.

 

[Cyclopskiller]

Thankx Fingers, ... Love coach Jones!!!

 

[butchna]

The weak ones will.:hi:

Natural selection...cull the weak I say! :aggressive:

 

[Spartacavolus]

I agree. I think people also forget that CBJ has also rested qbs from time to time by limiting their throws and allowing others to work with the ones.

If the #1 qb goes down, which has been highly likely for University of Thumbesee, the backup better have taken snaps from the center and better have had reps with first team receivers.

 

[DD4ME]

Most telling thing I've read.

• Bajakian was on his quarterbacks for their being too many balls on the ground as the group continues to work on improving their accuracy. The Vols worked on back-shoulder throws early in practice. Worley has been more accurate throwing the ball in the open periods so far, but none of the quarterbacks stood out on Monday.

 

[Catbone]

Most telling thing I've read.

You'd think one of those three highly rated QBs would be pretty good. I was expecting strides from Worley and Dobbs this Year. It's early but still disappointing.

 

[gogators13]

IMO, the biggest red flag with CBJ is his inability to pick a QB and name him starter. At this point just go with a number one and give him the reps. It is the only place I see him as failing

Yep... 2nd year with the same guys and no starter by fall. This normally causes headaches and confusion. The OBC at FL was famous for this move but he had a close hand on the QBs.

 

[Fingers]

this is not about those in the media, this is about you and your comments.

Oh, media agreement with your point? Well that's a solid defense. Lol.

You don't think it's possible that not naming your senior quuarterback the starter by now could be hurting the team? I'm not saying it is or isn't, but I can certainly see how it could. Especially after reports that Worley was upset about not being chosen for Media Day.

 

[Volz4lif3]

I'm ok right now with the QB's I trust CBJ I want to know what the OLine looks like.. That's my biggest concern

 

[UTProf]

You don't think it's possible that not naming your senior quuarterback the starter by now could be hurting the team? I'm not saying it is or isn't, but I can certainly see how it could. Especially after reports that Worley was upset about not being chosen for Media Day.

Does anyone have a link to that? I've heard it repeated here that Worley was upset but I haven't seen a story or link to confirm that. Seems out of character for Worley.

 

[Spartacavolus]

He sent guys that had solidified their positions to media day. Worley hadn't earned a starting starting position at the time since Dobbs ended the year and practice hadn't started yet. No brainer. Sending him basically closes the position battle from competition.

 

[Fingers]

Does anyone have a link to that? I've heard it repeated here that Worley was upset but I haven't seen a story or link to confirm that. Seems out of character for Worley.

I heard it this week from one of the talk radio guys. I forget which reported it. It may be out of character and I'm sure he wouldn't make a public thing about it, but I can see how he might be upset under the circumstances.

 

[Fingers]

He sent guys that had solidified their positions to media day. Worley hadn't earned a starting starting position at the time since Dobbs ended the year and practice hadn't started yet. No brainer. Sending him basically closes the position battle from competition.

That's just it. Some of us think the position is solidified, with Worley. I haven't seen anyone go out on a limb and predict that Dobbs or Peterman will start the first game. You making that prediction?

 

[gogators13]

I'm ok right now with the QB's I trust CBJ I want to know what the OLine looks like.. That's my biggest concern

I think last year by not having a clear cut QB at the beginning of the season showed when they threw Peterman in against UF. They have set their selves up again with the same problem not picking a starter. Really one of the only times you see this are when coaches don't want QBs to transfer.

 

[UTProf]

He sent guys that had solidified their positions to media day. Worley hadn't earned a starting starting position at the time since Dobbs ended the year and practice hadn't started yet. No brainer. Sending him basically closes the position battle from competition.

Not only that but Worley went to MPA and MPA didn't end until the 13th. Media Days started on the 14th. Sure he could've made a quick trip over in time but that is pushing the schedule and whatever preparations the players and coaches have to go through ahead of time.

Still, I really would like to know where the rumor that Worley was upset over media days comes from because it doesn't sound like him at all. I've only heard that claim on here but it's always 'I heard' or 'there were reports' etc. that he was upset over media days. Ok, then who exactly said or reported this?

ETA: Fingers, do you remember which show? I dunno just sounds like someone stirring the pot for ratings/excitement.

 

[JRVFL]

Fingers! You're the man! :hi:

 

[DD4ME]

You'd think one of those three highly rated QBs would be pretty good. I was expecting strides from Worley and Dobbs this Year. It's early but still disappointing.

It is early. All that QB camp hype is what set me up to be a little dissapointed. I'm no psychologist I'm sure there are methods to it all but to me Worley played best after Peterman face planted at UF and he essentially had nothing left to fear. I wonder if he deals well being in a "battle".

 

[Spartacavolus]

That's just it. Some of us think the position is solidified, with Worley. I haven't seen anyone go out on a limb and predict that Dobbs or Peterman will start the first game. You making that prediction?

No. I think Worley is the starter. But they hadn't started practice yet when media days was around and Dobbs was the last UT starting qb to start/play. As a coach, I don't think I would've handed worley the spot back prior to fall practice and sent him to rep at UT QB answering questions about earning the starting job.
All jmo of course.

 

[Fingers]

No. I think Worley is the starter. But they hadn't started practice yet when media days was around and Dobbs was the last UT starting qb to start/play. As a coach, I don't think I would've handed worley the spot back prior to fall practice and sent him to rep at UT QB answering questions about earning the starting job.
All jmo of course.

I don't think Dobbs starting the last game has anything to do with it, in my opinion. Worley was the starter until he was injured. He beat South Carolina.

Now that he's healthy again, you could hand him the job back without him having to go through some sort of pretend competition. We all know he's the guy, at least at first.

 

[JohnMcA60]

If y'all haven't noticed jones enjoys competition so if you name a starter then competition isn't there as much anymore. Competition makes you better so give all a look. It's not catastrophic that Butch hasn't named a QB. Calm down and Go vols

 

[rocktopper16]

Now that he's healthy again, you could hand him the job back without him having to go through some sort of pretend competition. We all know he's the guy, at least at first.

You could, Or you could let every guy show Worley that he is replaceable. There's more to it than a little competition. Butch breaks everything down to mental & motivational steps.

 

[thomaseusin]

Could it be possible the team already knows who the starter is? Kinda like how CBJ loves orchestrating commitments, this announcement is really to throw opponents off late so they have less time to prepare but players have already been getting first team reps behind closed doors..

 

[Fingers]

You could, Or you could let every guy show Worley that he is replaceable. There's more to it than a little competition. Butch breaks everything down to mental & motivational steps.

Sure. And that seems like the route Butch has chosen. I tend not to agree, but that's the fun of discussion and speculation.

Personally, I don't think Worley needs much motivation, being a senior with all he's been through. He's waited his turn and I think, for this team to be successful, we need Worley out there as a senior leader.

And I think Dobbs will be better after another year in the system. He wasn't ready last year, and my bet is he still isn't. He still has plenty of time left here.