Prayers for UAB

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jasonvol18 said:
If they share the same board of directors then yes. If you have the ability to put in the effort to ruin them then yes they could have put that effort into helping. Outside of Football UAB is more valuable from an institution standpoint.Do you think Ala doesn't benefit from the burn unit and all the money their hospital makes? Again I have lived in Ala long enough to know they can do no wrong and have never cheated and is always somebody else's fault..I get it everyone is out to get Bammers and they can do no wrong. Just like Bammers blame Fulmer and Slive where Saban, Nutt and a few others also turned Ala in over the Alber Means stuff. But since Saban is at Bammer it's irrelevant that he had a big part in that particular probation. Yes I get it..Ala does no wrong..ever..
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Can't back up your own thoughts on the topic, so you have to resort to ad hominem diarrhea? Nice job, Corky.
 
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I am not a Bama fan but I have lived here all my life and I still remember the excitement that existed when UAB went D1 in 1996. The sentiment from most Alabama fans I have spoken to that live in Bham is that of the non bama fans. Most think this is rediculas as it has been bama and not UAB that has suckled at the boob of the hospital that basically bankrolls a lot of projects. Granted this was a speculative opinion from my Great Uncle(Who has spoke at a commencement at UAB and also served on the Presidential Board of Advisors at UA) but he said he believes this is a power move not only to shut down athletics, but to size down the University in order to Boost attendance at UA. As I stated, that was his opinion and he does not know much anymore as he hasn't served on the Board in 3-4 years, but he does know Bryant Jr. and said that he has always hated UAB from the years of Gene Bartow(80's). Bryant Jr. is forced off the board in January as he is 70 and that is the mandatory retirement age on the BOT. Birmingham has been interesting as the Bamer minions have been on the sports shows trying to spin it in their favor, but no one has paid them any mind. RIP UAB Blazers 1991-2014... On a side note, I didn't like us playing them again as the last few time has been embarrassing performances on our part.
 
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vols 30 said:
This is why many people have a hard time with Christians. Not everyone wants to be preached too. You're right, but we are not in church.
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This us the problem Christians have with nonbelievers. They want to tell us what to do (as in not pray for football in this case) then get mad and say stop preaching when we respond like he did. Just saying
 
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joevol33 said:
This us the problem Christians have with nonbelievers. They want to tell us what to do (as in not pray for football in this case) then get mad and say stop preaching when we respond like he did. Just saying
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I'm a Christian. I just think church should stay in church.
 
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vols 30 said:
I'm a Christian. I just think church should stay in church.
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Wasn't trying to sound judgemental, but telling someone your belief of not praying over this, opens up the door for those who have a different opinion. I agree in that there are more important things to pray over than football. I think its for the heartbreak of these young men though, and that is prayer worthy. Some of these guts may feel like life is over now, you never know. Look at the Ohio st player, not that this is the same. I'm just saying you never know how someone will react, so these young men may very well need prayer right now.
 
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gordonr24 said:
The University of Alabama is arrogant much like the University of Texas. It wants the entire state to itself. Karma has a way of coming back, and the Alabama football program will get its due one day.

That's just a pathetic, cowardly act by Paul Bryant Jr and the Alabama administration.
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I was thinking Kamara has a way of coming back to Alabama. Something like 220 yards rushing and 3 TDs
 
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Death of UAB football depicts larger issues

The University of Alabama at BirminghamÂ’s decision to shut down its football program provoked cries of outrage from the campus and shock within the national football media. No Football Bowl Subdivision program has ceased operations outright since the University of the Pacific did so in 1995.

But while Pacific is a small private school in California, UAB is a public university located in the heart of college football country. And the end of UAB football may signal the start of a contraction within the FBS as the SEC and other power conferences move toward autonomy.

UAB by the numbers

UAB retained CarrSports Consulting, LLC, to compare the five-year cost of maintaining its football program in Conference USA versus proceeding without football at all. This was an all-or-nothing study.

CarrSports apparently did not consider other alternatives, such as dropping UAB football down to the Football Championship Subdivision or even Division II or III. Instead, the priority was determining the best way for UAB to maintain an overall Division I athletic program.

The NCAA requires Division I members field scholarship teams in at least 14 sports, seven of which must be womenÂ’s sports. UAB presently has 12 womenÂ’s sports teams and six menÂ’s teams. In addition to football, UAB will also eliminate womenÂ’s rifle and womenÂ’s bowling. It will then need to add menÂ’s track and cross country teams in order to comply with Title IXÂ’s gender-balance requirements.

According to CarrSports, UAB would have to invest an additional $47.5 million over the next five years just to remain competitive within Conference USA.

Although UAB isnÂ’t exactly competitive right now: Since joining the conference in 1999, UAB has produced just three winning seasons and never won more than seven games. (Ironically, CarrSports president Bill Carr helped bring UAB into Conference USA when he was athletic director at Houston.)

CarrSports projected an operating shortfall of $5.1 million for 2015-2016 if UAB retained football. Without football, the athletic department is projected to run a $400,000 surplus. On the flip side, losing football will also mean a 55% drop in revenue, from about $7.5 million in 2014-2015 to $3.2 million in 2015-2016.

UAB will also forgo planned improvements to football facilities, which CarrSports said would have cost $22.2 million. Instead, the school will focus its capital expenditures on soccer, baseball and softball, and track and field.

How does this affect the SEC?

UABÂ’s shutdown will have a short-term impact on the SECÂ’s non-conference schedule. Tennessee was scheduled to play the Blazers in 2015, with Kentucky following suit in 2016. UAB will have to pay nearly $1.5 million to get out of those contracts.

There is also the potential for political and media backlash against Alabama. Many UAB supporters blame their football program’s demise on the University of Alabama System Board of Trustees, specifically board member Paul Bryant, Jr., son of legendary Crimson Tide coach Bear Bryant. As reported by Jon Solomon of CBS Sports last month, “To UAB supporters, there is no doubt Bryant Jr. plans to finally kill UAB football before he leaves the board this year after a decades-old feud tied to Gene Bartow, the late founder of UAB athletics.”

But UABÂ’s decision was likely driven more by the present-day politics of the NCAA than an old argument between coaches.

The CarrSports report referenced the “ongoing Division I restructuring” as a key factor underlying its analysis. This restructuring includes proposals to increase the amount of scholarships—to cover the so-called full cost of attendance—and grant the SEC and other major conferences greater autonomy in their decision-making.

These proposals will inevitably increase the operating costs for all football programs. And unlike the SEC, Conference USA members do not have the luxury of escalating television contracts to cushion the financial blow. UAB therefore faced the prospect of spending millions of dollars—either through increased student fees or taking on debt—just to maintain its standing as a second-rate program in a second-tier conference.

UAB will not be the last mid-major program to face the prospect of dropping football unless the NCAA undertakes an even more radical change in its governance structure.

The NCAA may want to consider reducing the number of required sports for Division I membership while granting full independence to the SEC and other major football conferences. Taking the Football Bowl Subdivision out of the Division I equation entirely may be the best way to prevent other schools from taking the same drastic measures as UAB.
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Thought his made a good point.
 
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bamawriter said:
Can't back up your own thoughts on the topic, so you have to resort to ad hominem diarrhea? Nice job, Corky.
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You're A F'N dumbazz. You spew BS Ala diarrhea on most of your posts and constantly defend things that no intelligent fan could honestly believe. They are your team and that's fine but to insult fans of other teams for stating facts and on things you don't agree shows your lack of good sense. Everything I have said anyone can go online and backup what I have said about Ala and you just spew words together to make youappear knowledgeable. But having friends and family who work and have worked at Ala helps know a little more than stuff you and your trailer park imbreds sit around and just make up. Now back to your trailer park minions in tornado alley..
 
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I'm thinking there will be more to fall. Just a sign of the times. Gotta make dat money! :thud:

GO VOLS!
 
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I get a kick out of the whole christian thing about praying for people--and, now, football teams! Someone gets ill--Eric Berry, say--and the christian crowd wants to pray for his recovery. Who are they praying to? "God." So, they want this "god" to heal Berry--and every other sick person in the world--but as I understand all this silly religious stuff, it is "god's will" that Berry and everybody else has problems in the first place. Yes? Some unlucky sap steps out into the street and get hit by a bus...well, that's "god's will," say the christians, but then they turn around and pray to "god" to make him better. It's nonsensical, of course.

All manner of horrible things happen to huge numbers of people every day--and that's "god's" doing. But we never really hold "god" accountable for horrible things; all christians do is say that his ways are "mysterious." Indeed! And if someone gets better: Our prayers were answered!! Really? Did "god" change his mind? Reconsider after an email from a few christians--or hindus in India after some young girl gets raped and killed? It is all third-grade silliness--and yet so many Americans are so brainwashed with this silliness that it is perfectly acceptable for them to push their supernatural fables on everybody else! And constantly! And why? Because people need the comfort of believing--it helps them cope with their mortality, not matter how utterly illogical and ridiculous it all is--and that goes for American christians, hindus, muslims, everybody who is religious. All with their different gods and their different books and their different stories. It's all nonsense--and yet we logical nonbelievers have to endure all this cultish idiocy 24/7, because christians and other believers are scared they won't go to "heaven." Oh, my! Talk about a concept--"heaven" and "hell" are right in their with Sleeping Beauty and every other children's story we grew up with. No, it's worse than enduring all this nonsense--we atheists have to fight it because otherwise christian crazies--and state legislatures in the South are FULL of them--would mandate that creationism and all sorts of bible nonsense be taught in public schools.

It is all fairly crazy for a country that is supposed to represent "modernity." That is a great myth about America: In fact, the country is full of rural residents whose beliefs are anything but modern--more like medieval. And don't we love religious talk radio--which is practically ubiquitous--weird men and women who talk about the bible and "miracles" one minute and then turn around and heap scorn on the Affordable Care Act the next. It's comical. They hate the President--and are full of fear and paranoia about secularism. Evolution scares the bejesus out of christians because it is science that refutes their bible nonsense. And so they jump through hoops trying to come with a scientific veneer for creationism, which of course doesn't work.

Anyway, I don't mean to rant at christians, but many people are sick of christians pushing their nonsense on logical Americans as if everybody buys into their craziness. Know that many people don't. Now let us return to praying for the UAB football team. "God" is putting out subliminal feelers to some of their players right now: "CONSIDER the VOLS. CONSIDER the VOLS." "Mom, god came to me in a vision last night and said I should play for Tennessee!"
 
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armchair said:
I get a kick out of the whole christian thing about praying for people--and, now, football teams! Someone gets ill--Eric Berry, say--and the christian crowd wants to pray for his recovery. Who are they praying to? "God." So, they want this "god" to heal Berry--and every other sick person in the world--but as I understand all this silly religious stuff, it is "god's will" that Berry and everybody else has problems in the first place. Yes? Some unlucky sap steps out into the street and get hit by a bus...well, that's "god's will," say the christians, but then they turn around and pray to "god" to make him better. It's nonsensical, of course.

All manner of horrible things happen to huge numbers of people every day--and that's "god's" doing. But we never really hold "god" accountable for horrible things; all christians do is say that his ways are "mysterious." Indeed! And if someone gets better: Our prayers were answered!! Really? Did "god" change his mind? Reconsider after an email from a few christians--or hindus in India after some young girl gets raped and killed? It is all third-grade silliness--and yet so many Americans are so brainwashed with this silliness that it is perfectly acceptable for them to push their supernatural fables on everybody else! And constantly! And why? Because people need the comfort of believing--it helps them cope with their mortality, not matter how utterly illogical and ridiculous it all is--and that goes for American christians, hindus, muslims, everybody who is religious. All with their different gods and their different books and their different stories. It's all nonsense--and yet we logical nonbelievers have to endure all this cultish idiocy 24/7, because christians and other believers are scared they won't go to "heaven." Oh, my! Talk about a concept--"heaven" and "hell" are right in their with Sleeping Beauty and every other children's story we grew up with. No, it's worse than enduring all this nonsense--we atheists have to fight it because otherwise christian crazies--and state legislatures in the South are FULL of them--would mandate that creationism and all sorts of bible nonsense be taught in public schools.

It is all fairly crazy for a country that is supposed to represent "modernity." That is a great myth about America: In fact, the country is full of rural residents whose beliefs are anything but modern--more like medieval. And don't we love religious talk radio--which is practically ubiquitous--weird men and women who talk about the bible and "miracles" one minute and then turn around and heap scorn on the Affordable Care Act the next. It's comical. They hate the President--and are full of fear and paranoia about secularism. Evolution scares the bejesus out of christians because it is science that refutes their bible nonsense. And so they jump through hoops trying to come with a scientific veneer for creationism, which of course doesn't work.

Anyway, I don't mean to rant at christians, but many people are sick of christians pushing their nonsense on logical Americans as if everybody buys into their craziness. Know that many people don't. Now let us return to praying for the UAB football team. "God" is putting out subliminal feelers to some of their players right now: "CONSIDER the VOLS. CONSIDER the VOLS." "Mom, god came to me in a vision last night and said I should play for Tennessee!"
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but many Christians are sick of non Christians pushing their antiGod down peoples throat. Why do non Christians care who they worship ? If you or anybody else don't believe in God that is fine but why should it bother you or anybody else because Christians do believe in God ?
 
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bamawriter said:
UAB knew it was going to happen if they didn't stand with Bama on the Legion Field issue. They trusted the corruptocrats in charge of the city and county. It was a bad call.

Could Bama have bailed them out? Sure. But is Bama obligated to do so? Maybe you think so. I don't.
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They knew what would happen if they didn't stand with the great and powerful Bama.
Sounds exactly like corruption through bullying on their side also.
 
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Speaking of praying.... Hate to hijack this thread, but could you all pray for my family. Someone in my immediate family has been diagnosed with cancer. Thanks guys.
 
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armchair said:
I get a kick out of the whole christian thing about praying for people--and, now, football teams! Someone gets ill--Eric Berry, say--and the christian crowd wants to pray for his recovery. Who are they praying to? "God." So, they want this "god" to heal Berry--and every other sick person in the world--but as I understand all this silly religious stuff, it is "god's will" that Berry and everybody else has problems in the first place. Yes? Some unlucky sap steps out into the street and get hit by a bus...well, that's "god's will," say the christians, but then they turn around and pray to "god" to make him better. It's nonsensical, of course.

All manner of horrible things happen to huge numbers of people every day--and that's "god's" doing. But we never really hold "god" accountable for horrible things; all christians do is say that his ways are "mysterious." Indeed! And if someone gets better: Our prayers were answered!! Really? Did "god" change his mind? Reconsider after an email from a few christians--or hindus in India after some young girl gets raped and killed? It is all third-grade silliness--and yet so many Americans are so brainwashed with this silliness that it is perfectly acceptable for them to push their supernatural fables on everybody else! And constantly! And why? Because people need the comfort of believing--it helps them cope with their mortality, not matter how utterly illogical and ridiculous it all is--and that goes for American christians, hindus, muslims, everybody who is religious. All with their different gods and their different books and their different stories. It's all nonsense--and yet we logical nonbelievers have to endure all this cultish idiocy 24/7, because christians and other believers are scared they won't go to "heaven." Oh, my! Talk about a concept--"heaven" and "hell" are right in their with Sleeping Beauty and every other children's story we grew up with. No, it's worse than enduring all this nonsense--we atheists have to fight it because otherwise christian crazies--and state legislatures in the South are FULL of them--would mandate that creationism and all sorts of bible nonsense be taught in public schools.

It is all fairly crazy for a country that is supposed to represent "modernity." That is a great myth about America: In fact, the country is full of rural residents whose beliefs are anything but modern--more like medieval. And don't we love religious talk radio--which is practically ubiquitous--weird men and women who talk about the bible and "miracles" one minute and then turn around and heap scorn on the Affordable Care Act the next. It's comical. They hate the President--and are full of fear and paranoia about secularism. Evolution scares the bejesus out of christians because it is science that refutes their bible nonsense. And so they jump through hoops trying to come with a scientific veneer for creationism, which of course doesn't work.

Anyway, I don't mean to rant at christians, but many people are sick of christians pushing their nonsense on logical Americans as if everybody buys into their craziness. Know that many people don't. Now let us return to praying for the UAB football team. "God" is putting out subliminal feelers to some of their players right now: "CONSIDER the VOLS. CONSIDER the VOLS." "Mom, god came to me in a vision last night and said I should play for Tennessee!"
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I didn't want this thread to go there but I do feel sorry for you that's all I'm gonna say
 
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Catbone said:
Speaking of praying.... Hate to hijack this thread, but could you all pray for my family. Someone in my immediate family has been diagnosed with cancer. Thanks guys.
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Many many coming your way sorry to hear that man. I've dealt with my mother having brain cancer for about 2 years now and it's hard. Keep your head up and we'll be thinking bout you and your family
 
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juggernaUT said:
Many many coming your way sorry to hear that man. I've dealt with my mother having brain cancer for about 2 years now and it's hard. Keep your head up and we'll be thinking bout you and your family
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That's rough man. Thoughts and prayers for you as well. Thanks
 
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Catbone said:
Speaking of praying.... Hate to hijack this thread, but could you all pray for my family. Someone in my immediate family has been diagnosed with cancer. Thanks guys.
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You got it Catbone!
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Many many coming your way sorry to hear that man. I've dealt with my mother having brain cancer for about 2 years now and it's hard. Keep your head up and we'll be thinking bout you and your family
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Sending up prayers for your mom!
 
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Catbone said:
That's rough man. Thoughts and prayers for you as well. Thanks
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CatBone, you are on my list, buddy. While we are having prayer, remember all those affected by that bus wreck on John Sevier HWY yesterday.
 
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