Predict The 2 Deep After Fall camp

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I don't see a problem with either line up. We got what we got. I know they need us to be the 12th man.
 
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AboveAllNations said:
I'll be the brave one. Backups are listed in italics, first-year players in bold:

QB: Dobbs (Worley)
RB: Hurd (Lane)
WRs: North, Pearson, Malone (Howard, Croom, Smith)
TE: Downs (Wolf)
LT: Blair (Gilliam)
LG: Jackson (Sanders)
C: Crowder (Thomas, who would move from RT)
RG: Kerbyson (Sanders)
RT: Thomas (Kendrick)

DEs: Maggit, Vereen (Hendrix, Jak. Johnson)
DTs: O. Williams, J. Williams (O'Brien, Barnett)
OLBs: Reeves-Mabin, Bates (Weatherd, Elliot Berry)
MLB: Johnson (Bryant)
CBs: Sutton, Gaulden (Coleman, Moseley)
FS: Randolph (Swafford)
SS: Kelly Jr. (McNeil)

K: Medley (Bullock)
P: Darr (Bullock)
KR: Wharton (Malone)
PR: Wharton (Young)

So, yeah, we're going to be young.
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I have to disagree on a few. Dobbs would have to have an absolutely amazing fall to get the nod over Worley and I am not so sure that Peterman is out of the 2 deep race. Just to be clear, I think Dobbs has a good future with us.

No way Lane doesn't come out a starter. Lane is better than some seem to think. Hurd is a beast but 3 years at the college level with game reps is not easy to beat out.

Slot receiver will be Pig's to start. Any receiver that does not play this year is headed for a redshirt.

No way downs is better than Helm or Wolf.

The 2 deep on the o-line is just convoluted.We need more bodies to have a true 2 deep.

Your are probably not far off on the defense. CB is a toss up. Lots of good players. Mosely see the field as well. The youth at corner is a big step up from last year's starters.

Medly is about to have a busy year. Young is a better return man than we give him credit for. That is his job coming out of fall.

QB: Worley ; Peterman
RB: Lane ; Hurd
WR: North, Malone, Howard; Croom , Smith , Pearson
TE: Wolf ; Helm
LT: Blair
LG: Jackson
C: Crowder
RG: Kerbyson
RT: Thomas

DE: Maggit , Vereen ; Hendrix , Jak. Johnson
DT: O. Williams, J. Williams ; O'Brien , Barnett
OLB: Reeves-Mabin, Bates ;Weatherd , Berry
MLB: Johnson ; Bryant
Nickle: Coleman ; Foreman
CB: Sutton , Payne ; Gauldin , Berry
FS: Randolph ; Swafford
SS: Kelly ; McNeil

K: Medley
P: Medley
KR: Young , Pearson ; Hurd , Malone
PR: Young , Pearson
 
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Giveem6 said:
I didn't think he was even on campus yet was asking strict eligibility
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You are right. I'm on here daily and don't remember seeing anything about him hence believing he was a local or something that has not moved up on the roster. I had to go look him on UTSports.com to learn about him. I remember a transfer from Virginia but did not remember his name. I just just went and learned more about him. Jr WR on a loaded young squad. That's never a bad thing to have come into the problem.
 
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I saw a video in the spring with Ray Raulerson and he said he was working mostly at Center. So he'd be behind Crowder for me.
Also I would think M. Pair would be able to compete somewhere on the OL being a 5th year SR.
 
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Is everyone saying Dylan Wiseman will redshirt? If he doesn't, I expect him to compete for a starting position, he is one of our top 7 OLs.
 
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I think we see much more out of Young at RB than we might think. I doubt he would move from WR where he was improving and could play, back to RB to just sit on the bench.
 
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fossilfiction said:
I have to disagree on a few. Dobbs would have to have an absolutely amazing fall to get the nod over Worley and I am not so sure that Peterman is out of the 2 deep race. Just to be clear, I think Dobbs has a good future with us.

No way Lane doesn't come out a starter. Lane is better than some seem to think. Hurd is a beast but 3 years at the college level with game reps is not easy to beat out.

Slot receiver will be Pig's to start. Any receiver that does not play this year is headed for a redshirt.

No way downs is better than Helm or Wolf.

The 2 deep on the o-line is just convoluted.We need more bodies to have a true 2 deep.

Your are probably not far off on the defense. CB is a toss up. Lots of good players. Mosely see the field as well. The youth at corner is a big step up from last year's starters.

Medly is about to have a busy year. Young is a better return man than we give him credit for. That is his job coming out of fall.

QB: Worley ; Peterman
RB: Lane ; Hurd
WR: North, Malone, Howard; Croom , Smith , Pearson
TE: Wolf ; Helm
LT: Blair
LG: Jackson
C: Crowder
RG: Kerbyson
RT: Thomas

DE: Maggit , Vereen ; Hendrix , Jak. Johnson
DT: O. Williams, J. Williams ; O'Brien , Barnett
OLB: Reeves-Mabin, Bates ;Weatherd , Berry
MLB: Johnson ; Bryant
Nickle: Coleman ; Foreman
CB: Sutton , Payne ; Gauldin , Berry
FS: Randolph ; Swafford
SS: Kelly ; McNeil

K: Medley
P: Medley
KR: Young , Pearson ; Hurd , Malone
PR: Young , Pearson
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Peterman backing up Worley ahead of Dobbs? As Brent Hubbs said right after Spring practice discussing the QB situation, " Peterman was a complete non factor at QB this Spring".

Also, Saulsberry will factor in prominently at DT, ahead of any freshman IMO.
 
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fossilfiction said:
You are right. I'm on here daily and don't remember seeing anything about him hence believing he was a local or something that has not moved up on the roster. I had to go look him on UTSports.com to learn about him. I remember a transfer from Virginia but did not remember his name. I just just went and learned more about him. Jr WR on a loaded young squad. That's never a bad thing to have come into the problem.
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I like your avatar
 
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Borrowing from AboveAllNations:

QB: Worley (Dobbs)
RB: Lane (Hurd)
WRs: North, Pearson, Malone (Howard, Croom, K. Jackson)
TE: Helm (Wolf)
LT: Blair (Gilliam)
LG: Jackson (Sanders)
C: Crowder (Thomas, who would move from RT)
RG: Kerbyson (Weismann)
RT: Thomas (Kendrick)

DEs: Maggit, Vereen (Hendrix, Jak. Johnson)
DTs: O. Williams, Saulsberry (O'Brien, J. Williams)
OLBs: Reeves-Mabin, Weatherd (Bates, Elliot Berry)
MLB: Johnson (Bryant)
CBs: Sutton, Moseley (M. Williams, Evan Berry)
NB: Coleman (Payne)
FS: Randolph (Gauden)
SS: Kelly Jr. (McDowell)

K: Medley (Bullock)
P: Darr (Bullock)
KR: Wharton (Young)
PR: Young (Wharton)
 
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Thanks for the feedback everybody. Fossilfiction, I'm going to respond to your post because it was the most detailed, but you echo a lot of points made by others. Just keep in mind I'm not picking on you or your rationale.

fossilfiction said:
I have to disagree on a few. Dobbs would have to have an absolutely amazing fall to get the nod over Worley and I am not so sure that Peterman is out of the 2 deep race. Just to be clear, I think Dobbs has a good future with us.
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Josh Dobbs was absolutely amazing in the Orange and White game, and the fact that the coaches haven't already named Justin Worley the starter (and didn't pick him to represent UT at the SEC media week) lead me to believe that Dobbs is seriously challenging for the starting job. Ordinarily a true sophomore wouldn't beat out an experienced senior at a position like QB, but Dobbs isn't an ordinary college sophomore. With the mobility and deep touch that Dobbs demonstrated throughout that O&W game, I predict that Jones starts Dobbs against Utah State because he gives our offense a higher ceiling that it has under Justin Worley.

fossilfiction said:
No way Lane doesn't come out a starter. Lane is better than some seem to think. Hurd is a beast but 3 years at the college level with game reps is not easy to beat out.
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Runningback is the easiest position to contribute at immediately, and Hurd has been here since January. Much like the debate between Worley and Dobbs, I think the coaches give it to Hurd because he's simply more talented. Most people think those two will win starting positions by the end of the season anyway, and the earlier they do it the better prepared they'll be for our SEC schedule.

fossilfiction said:
Slot receiver will be Pig's to start. Any receiver that does not play this year is headed for a redshirt.
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Why? Pig wasn't here all Spring for non-football reasons, so he'll have to earn his starting job back. I don't think he can beat out North, Malone or Pearson, so I have him as the # 4 WR. I assume you meant to say that either Malone or Pearson will redshirt this season, but both are too talented to keep off the field. Last year's Vanderbilt game is a cautionary tale about what happens when a team gets too thin at WR.

fossilfiction said:
No way downs is better than Helm or Wolf.
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You may be right about this, but given our inexperience at tackle I speculated that the coaches might prefer a veteran starter at TE for the beginning of the year to get Blair and Thomas comfortable. Admittedly this was a tough call.

fossilfiction said:
The 2 deep on the o-line is just convoluted.We need more bodies to have a true 2 deep.
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There are more bodies available, but don't assume that if a starter goes down that the coaches will automatically plug in a backup who only focuses on that particular position (e.g., center, either guard position, etc.). UT will always start the best 5 available lineman, and that likely means moving another starter to center if something happens to Crowder. Do you know our backup center? I sure don't, but I know that Austin Sanders and Brett Kendrick are solid backups at guard and tackle and Thomas has experience at center. Unfortunately, we simply don't have the depth at o-line to go 2-deep at every position. My depth chart reflects that.

fossilfiction said:
Your are probably not far off on the defense. CB is a toss up. Lots of good players. Mosely see the field as well. The youth at corner is a big step up from last year's starters.
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Our DBs looked horrible in the O&W game, so that's why I'm not putting much stock in the fact that Moseley apparently started throughout the Spring at CB. I still question whether he's physically and mentally ready to play this year. By contrast, I think Gaulden's tackling ability at CB would give our defensive perimeter an aggressive attitude heading into the season that we haven't had since Eric Berry. Of course, that same attitude could also come from one of the Berry brothers, so CB is wide open right now.

Much like CB, DL was also a mess in the spring. I think Jordan Williams wins a starting job at DT while some of the incoming freshman win backup jobs. I hope Saulsberry is healthy, but I'm not taking that for granted.

fossilfiction said:
Medly is about to have a busy year. Young is a better return man than we give him credit for. That is his job coming out of fall.
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You're right about Young. He probably will start at either PR or KR - that was an oversight on my part.
 
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#44
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I've got Lane over Hurd only because the question was "at the end of fall camp". Eventually I think Hurd will be the starter.
 
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KBVol said:
Peterman backing up Worley ahead of Dobbs? As Brent Hubbs said right after Spring practice discussing the QB situation, " Peterman was a complete non factor at QB this Spring".

Also, Saulsberry will factor in prominently at DT, ahead of any freshman IMO.
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Peterman maybe out of it. We find out after fall :)
I'm a Dobbs fan and don't say it to take away from him but surely what Peterman showed at Florida is not all he has. Just saying that a strong fall headed into the season and he could be in that position at number 2. Hoping your right on Saulsberry and I would like Danny to claim a spot also.
 
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AboveAllNations said:
Thanks for the feedback everybody. Fossilfiction, I'm going to respond to your post because it was the most detailed, but you echo a lot of points made by others. Just keep in mind I'm not picking on you or your rationale.



Josh Dobbs was absolutely amazing in the Orange and White game, and the fact that the coaches haven't already named Justin Worley the starter (and didn't pick him to represent UT at the SEC media week) lead me to believe that Dobbs is seriously challenging for the starting job. Ordinarily a true sophomore wouldn't beat out an experienced senior at a position like QB, but Dobbs isn't an ordinary college sophomore. With the mobility and deep touch that Dobbs demonstrated throughout that O&W game, I predict that Jones starts Dobbs against Utah State because he gives our offense a higher ceiling that it has under Justin Worley.



Runningback is the easiest position to contribute at immediately, and Hurd has been here since January. Much like the debate between Worley and Dobbs, I think the coaches give it to Hurd because he's simply more talented. Most people think those two will win starting positions by the end of the season anyway, and the earlier they do it the better prepared they'll be for our SEC schedule.



Why? Pig wasn't here all Spring for non-football reasons, so he'll have to earn his starting job back. I don't think he can beat out North, Malone or Pearson, so I have him as the # 4 WR. I assume you meant to say that either Malone or Pearson will redshirt this season, but both are too talented to keep off the field. Last year's Vanderbilt game is a cautionary tale about what happens when a team gets too thin at WR.



You may be right about this, but given our inexperience at tackle I speculated that the coaches might prefer a veteran starter at TE for the beginning of the year to get Blair and Thomas comfortable. Admittedly this was a tough call.



There are more bodies available, but don't assume that if a starter goes down that the coaches will automatically plug in a backup who only focuses on that particular position (e.g., center, either guard position, etc.). UT will always start the best 5 available lineman, and that likely means moving another starter to center if something happens to Crowder. Do you know our backup center? I sure don't, but I know that Austin Sanders and Brett Kendrick are solid backups at guard and tackle and Thomas has experience at center. Unfortunately, we simply don't have the depth at o-line to go 2-deep at every position. My depth chart reflects that.



Our DBs looked horrible in the O&W game, so that's why I'm not putting much stock in the fact that Moseley apparently started throughout the Spring at CB. I still question whether he's physically and mentally ready to play this year. By contrast, I think Gaulden's tackling ability at CB would give our defensive perimeter an aggressive attitude heading into the season that we haven't had since Eric Berry. Of course, that same attitude could also come from one of the Berry brothers, so CB is wide open right now.

Much like CB, DL was also a mess in the spring. I think Jordan Williams wins a starting job at DT while some of the incoming freshman win backup jobs. I hope Saulsberry is healthy, but I'm not taking that for granted.



You're right about Young. He probably will start at either PR or KR - that was an oversight on my part.
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Your not picking on me. These are predictions. Everyone on this site is hoping freshman popup as immediate impact players at every position.
CB was a mess in spring but they didn't have the early boost that offense did. Early enrollees on offense helped in the O&W game. We have speed and ability. I believe our two deep will end up SEC quality at the end of fall. Not saying they will all be ball hawking helmet breakers day one but the talent is there. Lots of young options. They need to pass the learning curve.
The thing about about our receivers is they will all get a boatload of snaps. Slot is a great position for us with Pig, Pearson, and Young. I'm thrilled with our corps.
OL, yeah that's my point. We have a two deep but good luck predicting that due to subs playing multiple positions.
Won't be Dobbs starting at Utah State. All of current QBs looked very capable in the spring game. Worley works as hard as anyone on the team. If Dobbs manages to be the starter out of fall then he balled and Worley digressed or gets injured.
Thing about predictions in July.... They don't mean a thing, I'm just ready for practice to start to see threads about performance and not our predictions, theories, and questions.
 
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For those panicking over UT having Fr in their two deep this fall... I'm pretty sure USCe had several last fall.
 
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