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mad4vols said:
Come on you gunners!
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One of the kids I coach is a huge Arsenal fan. I always like seeing a kid wear a jersey to practice. I think our last practice we had an Arsenal, an Alex Morgan, a Club Americana, NYFC, and a Croatian National team kit in the field.
 
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Absolutely beautiful late winning goal by Connor Gallagher against the team that he won Player of the Year as a loanee last year. Big PL win on debut for Potter.

 
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YNWAvols said:
It’s extremely hard to not hate the likes of City, Chelsea, PSG, etc.
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Because it’s an early potential deal when we’re not in the January window?

Or because it’s a 60M potential signing after just spending a ton in the summer?
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
Because it’s an early potential deal when we’re not in the January window?

Or because it’s a 60M potential signing after just spending a ton in the summer?
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I would imagine they are saying those teams are pretty much the Yankees or Dodgers of soccer.
 
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C/O said:
I would imagine they are saying those teams are pretty much the Yankees or Dodgers of soccer.
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This is what I thought. Then I was a bit confused on how we gave a “secret medical” so thought maybe that was it as it seems shady. I know you can initiate conversations with players agents when they are in the last 6 months of a contract, but I don’t think he is.

To be honest though I don’t think Chelsea stays up as one of the big spenders in World football anymore. Last summer and this summer I think we keep spending to reconstruct the team as there are reports that Chelsea has a lot of room left in the Financial Fair Play until after next summer. After that though, I think it falls more into the 10-15 range of world football. Boehly isn’t Roman.
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
Because it’s an early potential deal when we’re not in the January window?

Or because it’s a 60M potential signing after just spending a ton in the summer?
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It just seems like they are some kids playing Football Manager and they are always trying to buy the next flavor of the month. It also doesn’t seem like many of the moves are very tactful. They’ve always been known for just buying up players and loaning out - it’s why I didn’t think it was a good move for Pulisic.
 
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YNWAvols said:
It just seems like they are some kids playing Football Manager and they are always trying to buy the next flavor of the month. It also doesn’t seem like many of the moves are very tactful. They’ve always been known for just buying up players and loaning out - it’s why I didn’t think it was a good move for Pulisic.
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I mean from a tactical standpoint, I can’t really tell you for sure as I’m still learning Potters system and I don’t watch much Bundesliga but what i do know is Nkunku is very tactically flexible and is talented. Can play attacking midfield all the way to striker. That type of player I would imagine would do really well with Potter. So I would probably disagree with the tactful part.

As far as the loan army, that was a Roman philosophy. Loans will still be used to get young players time and minutes just like every other club but the days of buying players and end up loaning them out year after year are over.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Did they actually turn a legitimate profit, or did Etihad just sponsor the stadium/kit to some absurd tune to make the club look profitable for FFP purposes? Not being snarky, it’s a genuine question.
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Curious, how exactly do you think Liverpool, United, Barca, Madrid, became big clubs back in the day?
 
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YNWAvols said:
It just seems like they are some kids playing Football Manager and they are always trying to buy the next flavor of the month. It also doesn’t seem like many of the moves are very tactful. They’ve always been known for just buying up players and loaning out - it’s why I didn’t think it was a good move for Pulisic.
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I get this point but every major team does this. If we truly want what you’re explaining above, we all better drop our clubs and become Ajax, Sporting, and Monaco fans. Very few instances occur where these young kids become stars at the major clubs in England and Spain.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
I get this point but every major team does this. If we truly want what you’re explaining above, we all better drop our clubs and become Ajax, Sporting, and Monaco fans. Very few instances occur where these young kids become stars at the major clubs in England and Spain.
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I disagree. LFC a major club and look at their net spend compared to City/PSG.
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
I mean from a tactical standpoint, I can’t really tell you for sure as I’m still learning Potters system and I don’t watch much Bundesliga but what i do know is Nkunku is very tactically flexible and is talented. Can play attacking midfield all the way to striker. That type of player I would imagine would do really well with Potter. So I would probably disagree with the tactful part.

As far as the loan army, that was a Roman philosophy. Loans will still be used to get young players time and minutes just like every other club but the days of buying players and end up loaning them out year after year are over.
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My point isn't so much with Nkunku specifically, its that Chelsea in my opinion need a true striker. Nkunku to me is a similar player (positionally speaking) to Pulisic, Havertz, Sterling, etc. It just seemed to me, especially in this past window, that they were throwing around money just for the sake of throwing it around and the moves seemed more like going after the hot commodity vs true fit with club.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
Curious, how exactly do you think Liverpool, United, Barca, Madrid, became big clubs back in the day?
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In the case of Liverpool and United, not by having hundreds of millions worth of losses underwritten by sovereign wealth for a decade and a half.

However, they were massive beneficiaries of being the teams on top at the time the financial game changed forever in the early 90’s (much like Bama, Clemson and OSU were in CFB) and were basically permanently locked into the upper-most caste.

Again, I wasn’t necessarily attacking what City have done. I was genuinely curious if the club were actually turning a true profit. Even with unlimited funds, defying what does amount to a caste system is fairly impressive. It remains to be seen if Newcastle can manage to duplicate that feat.
 
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