Preseason top 25?

2004, the Vols win the close games, win the SEC East, and finish with 10 wins.

2005, the Vols lose the close games and finish with 6 losses.

The difference in winning and losing during both seasons is minor and just a few plays.

Any improvement from last season results in not only a winning season, but championship aspirations.

Some voters analyze record.... others look at talent.... others look at how the actual games were played. The smart voters will have the Vols in the top 25. The stupid voters will just look at last season's record without much analyzing and not have the Vols in the top 25.

Where a team starts doesn't really matter anyway..... its where they finish. I have no doubt the Vols will not only contend for the SEC East, but also the SEC Championship and a BCS spot.
 
(allvol @ Apr 12 said:
I have no doubt the Vols will not only contend for the SEC East, but also the SEC Championship and a BCS spot.

Just stay on the computer until the nice men in the white coats come to get you.
 
(allvol @ Apr 12 said:
2004, the Vols win the close games, win the SEC East, and finish with 10 wins.

2005, the Vols lose the close games and finish with 6 losses.

The difference in winning and losing during both seasons is minor and just a few plays.

Any improvement from last season results in not only a winning season, but championship aspirations.

Some voters analyze record.... others look at talent.... others look at how the actual games were played. The smart voters will have the Vols in the top 25. The stupid voters will just look at last season's record without much analyzing and not have the Vols in the top 25.

Where a team starts doesn't really matter anyway..... its where they finish. I have no doubt the Vols will not only contend for the SEC East, but also the SEC Championship and a BCS spot.


Certainly possible though I think most on here would find that a bit of a reach, even for a successful year.
 
(allvol @ Apr 12 said:
2004, the Vols win the close games, win the SEC East, and finish with 10 wins.

2005, the Vols lose the close games and finish with 6 losses.

The difference in winning and losing during both seasons is minor and just a few plays.

The problem with this analysis is, you dont consider the close games UT won that could have been lost in 2005, i.e. LSU, UAB, and Memphis. Those games would have been lost except for a "few plays."

5-6 was bad, but it could have as easily been 2-9 as it could have been 8-3.
 
(VolunteerHillbilly @ Apr 12 said:
Just stay on the computer until the nice men in the white coats come to get you.

:lol:

They are probably down the hall anyways.
 
I dont think we will start out in the top 25 but i think that if we beat Cal and FL in our first games we will go on a winning streak and appear in the to 25 within week 4
 
(Taylor Moran @ Apr 12 said:
I dont think we will start out in the top 25 but i think that if we beat Cal and FL in our first games we will go on a winning streak and appear in the to 25 within week 4
Just beating Cal puts UT in the top 25 (assuming they don't start there) and beating UF puts them in the top 15.
 
(VolunteerHillbilly @ Apr 12 said:
Just stay on the computer until the nice men in the white coats come to get you.
Sorry AllVol, but HB that is one of the funniest things I have read in a while.
 


I interrupt this thread for a very important announcement. Now, I may be giving away too much on my own age, and this may get buried off in some other posting area, but I am so excited I have to mention it! There is a rumor that Steely Dan will go on tour this summer, playing with Michael McDonald. A tentative date for July 7 in Nashville. Now, I figure at least a few folks on here have to be of my generation and realize what a huge deal this is for classic rock and jazz lovers. So, at the risk of being berated, I am going to slip this in to a thread or two.

:baloon:
 
(lawgator1 @ Apr 12 said:
I interrupt this thread for a very important announcement. Now, I may be giving away too much on my own age, and this may get buried off in some other posting area, but I am so excited I have to mention it! There is a rumor that Steely Dan will go on tour this summer, playing with Michael McDonald. A tentative date for July 7 in Nashville. Now, I figure at least a few folks on here have to be of my generation and realize what a huge deal this is for classic rock and jazz lovers. So, at the risk of being berated, I am going to slip this in to a thread or two.

:baloon:


You know where steely dan got their name ???
 
(allvol @ Apr 12 said:
2004, the Vols win the close games, win the SEC East, and finish with 10 wins.

2005, the Vols lose the close games and finish with 6 losses.

The difference in winning and losing during both seasons is minor and just a few plays.

Any improvement from last season results in not only a winning season, but championship aspirations.

Some voters analyze record.... others look at talent.... others look at how the actual games were played. The smart voters will have the Vols in the top 25. The stupid voters will just look at last season's record without much analyzing and not have the Vols in the top 25.

Where a team starts doesn't really matter anyway..... its where they finish. I have no doubt the Vols will not only contend for the SEC East, but also the SEC Championship and a BCS spot.



I concur Allvol.Ignore the nayayers.
BTW,white coats in a mental health institution are a thing of the past.
 
(lawgator1 @ Apr 12 said:
Uh huh. Everyone knows that!

Know who played drums with them in college?

No see im a young guy I am getting into William S. Burroughs and I was suprised to find where the band got there name....
 
(RammerJammer84 @ Apr 12 said:
No see im a young guy I am getting into William S. Burroughs and I was suprised to find where the band got there name....


Chevy Chase.
 
Chevy Chase is too tall to fit behind a drum kit. I'm calling bs on this until someone shows me some film. Also, I do not see where these tickets are on sale. I wonder where they will play. I managed to scalp my Van Morrison seats at teh Ryman for over $800. I sure hope they play there, I'll make out like a bandit if it sels out fast.
 
(lawgator1 @ Apr 12 said:
Well said (except for the lay off thing as, since we put in our new server at work, I can't access my chess site and so this is my major form of daily entertainment).

But let me ask you this. Does his equity run out anytime soon? I mean, if there is another losing season this year, or even one of 6-5, can he survive that? Will the UT faithful let him stick around? And would you want him to? Seriously. Look at the Joe Paterno situation. Now, they aren't totally comparable, granted, but the argument of being entitled to hang around based on past success is the same.


Another losing season would be very hard for us to take. The only thing that would make it acceptable is if we had a bunch of very critical position injuries. Out side of that the heat would be turned up on him. Right now I think the only real heat he is feeling is from himself. See, I know that CPF is a competitive person, like all coaches and he hates to lose. Now with his temperment the way it is it won't show the way a SOS type does. But barring major injuries in key areas I say a losing season would put some serious heat on him for the first time in his career as a HC.

With taht said I see us being very, very competitive and winning a lot. I think the road to the SECCG runs through Knoxville, since we have UF, Bammer and LSU at home.
 
(VolBeef88 @ Apr 12 said:
I think the road to the SECCG runs through Knoxville, since we have UF, Bammer and LSU at home.

Have you been dipping into Ricky Williams' stash?
 
(Vol423 @ Apr 12 said:
Have you been dipping into Ricky Williams' stash?

Nope. If we win those games will we be in it? Do you not think that all of those teams are in the hunt?
 
(VolunteerHillbilly @ Apr 12 said:
Chevy Chase is too tall to fit behind a drum kit. I'm calling bs on this until someone shows me some film. Also, I do not see where these tickets are on sale. I wonder where they will play. I managed to scalp my Van Morrison seats at teh Ryman for over $800. I sure hope they play there, I'll make out like a bandit if it sels out fast.


From SteelyDan.com:

"Donald Fagen is born in Passaic, New Jersey on January 10, 1948. Walter Becker is born in New York City on February 20, 1950. They both grew up as disaffected suburban youths, going to school in the daytime and listening to the music of their idols Charlie Parker, Duke Ellington and John Coltrane at night. They both feel an affinity with the "Jazz Life."

Donald Fagen meets Walter Becker at Bard College in Annandale-On Hudson, New York in 1967. Fagen, a piano player, hears someone playing blues guitar in a student lounge and decides he must introduce himself. He discovers Becker playing a red Epiphone guitar and finds that they share the same interests in music and ironic senses of humor. A partnership is born.

They form several college bands including "The Leather Canary" (which fellow Bard student Chevy Chase sat in with a couple of times) and "The Don Fagen Trio." Fagen and Becker also start to write songs together."

News of the tour is on McDonald's site right now. Only place listed in Tennessee is Nashville.
 
(VolBeef88 @ Apr 12 said:
With taht said I see us being very, very competitive and winning a lot. I think the road to the SECCG runs through Knoxville, since we have UF, Bammer and LSU at home.
While i admire the optimism, the realist in me can't look at UF and LSU and think about w's. I think we can beat UGA and Bama.....

but the only way i think we get in the SEC CG is if some how UF loses more SEC games than us......and i don't see that happening....doesn't mean it won't, but they really should be the favorite to win the East. UGA should be looked at as a #2 and us and USC vying for 3rd. I think it will end up UF as 1 and us as 2.
 

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