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#3,051
OrangeTsar said:
Except that the “anti zionists” always seem to hate Israeli Jews no matter who the leader is. Doesn’t matter if it is Netanyahu or someone from the left, the hatred knows no end.
So I guess my real question for you would be; is ANY Israeli government acceptable? Or is the mere existence of a Jewish State anathema to you
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I thought we were talking about Jimmy Carter.
Israeli govt doesn't matter much to me. I don't particularly support Israel, you must admit they were or are invaders, haven't exactly been good neighbors, but they do serve to keep middle east problems in the middle east.
 
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#3,053
swampfoxfan said:
I thought we were talking about Jimmy Carter.
Israeli govt doesn't matter much to me. I don't particularly support Israel, you must admit they were or are invaders, haven't exactly been good neighbors, but they do serve to keep middle east problems in the middle east.
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#3,057
swampfoxfan said:
I thought we were talking about Jimmy Carter.
Israeli govt doesn't matter much to me. I don't particularly support Israel, you must admit they were or are invaders, haven't exactly been good neighbors, but they do serve to keep middle east problems in the middle east.
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I will never admit they are invaders. Their history in the region goes back nearly 4 millennia.
And the Wailing Wall sure isn’t any ancient foundation for any mosque.
 
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#3,058
swampfoxfan said:
I thought we were talking about Jimmy Carter.
Israeli govt doesn't matter much to me. I don't particularly support Israel, you must admit they were or are invaders, haven't exactly been good neighbors, but they do serve to keep middle east problems in the middle east.
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So, back to my question. Would you support ANY Jewish State in the Levant?
 
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#3,059
OrangeTsar said:
I will never admit they are invaders. Their history in the region goes back nearly 4 millennia.
And the Wailing Wall sure isn’t any ancient foundation for any mosque.
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Post WWII residents of present day Israel were displaced, forcibly to make room for Jews. As far as who was first in the region it was not the Jews,at least according to the old testament.
 
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#3,061
swampfoxfan said:
Support? Does it matter what I think? I donate monthly to St. JUDES, Shrines . I don't send a check to Israel.
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So you still refuse to answer the question. Here then, let me rephrase it to remove the word “support”.
Do you think it is a legitimate desire for Jews to have a homeland in the Levant?
Or if this is easier for you to parse…..
Should all Jews leave the region and “go back to Europe”?
 
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#3,062
swampfoxfan said:
Post WWII residents of present day Israel were displaced, forcibly to make room for Jews. As far as who was first in the region it was not the Jews,at least according to the old testament.
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Then go find yourselves some Caninites or Philistines, not mythical “Palestinians” who are basically Jordanian Arabs, not native to the area either.
Of course remember that if you try to return the land to the Caninites, you are going to have to have a tussle with God who clearly gave the title to Abraham and his grandson Jacob to whom He gave the name “Israel”
Good luck with THAT one.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Except that the “anti zionists” always seem to hate Israeli Jews no matter who the leader is. Doesn’t matter if it is Netanyahu or someone from the left, the hatred knows no end.
So I guess my real question for you would be; is ANY Israeli government acceptable? Or is the mere existence of a Jewish State anathema to you
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It’s the second one.
 
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#3,067
OrangeTsar said:
Then go find yourselves some Caninites or Philistines, not mythical “Palestinians” who are basically Jordanian Arabs, not native to the area either.
Of course remember that if you try to return the land to the Caninites, you are going to have to have a tussle with God who clearly gave the title to Abraham and his grandson Jacob to whom He gave the name “Israel”
Good luck with THAT one.
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*Canaanites 😉
 
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LouderVol said:
and it can be argued that Carter's character got Americans endangered, extended their suffering, and killed.

at some point you have to judge character based on the results it brings. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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How so? If you mean the hostages in Iran, don't forget the rescue attempt that failed and Reagan's probable October Surprise.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Then go find yourselves some Caninites or Philistines, not mythical “Palestinians” who are basically Jordanian Arabs, not native to the area either.
Of course remember that if you try to return the land to the Caninites, you are going to have to have a tussle with God who clearly gave the title to Abraham and his grandson Jacob to whom He gave the name “Israel”
Good luck with THAT one.
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Talk about moving the goal post, you have went from Jimmy Carter to Abraham. I will never answer any questions in such manner that you won't find a stitch to pick at.
 
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#3,073
OrangeTsar said:
So you still refuse to answer the question. Here then, let me rephrase it to remove the word “support”.
Do you think it is a legitimate desire for Jews to have a homeland in the Levant?
Or if this is easier for you to parse…..
Should all Jews leave the region and “go back to Europe”?
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Well I will respond in a like manner, do you support and celebrate the trail of tears?
 
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