President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[LSU-SIU]

I think he is a right wing nationalist loon - viewing it through that prism.....???????????????

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[Vol737]

I think he is a right wing nationalist loon - viewing it through that prism.....???????????????

Strong take.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Strong take.

I feel like this every time Luther comes back.

 

[Ritzwatch]

Elon's certainly getting a ton of milage out of this salute thing on Twitter. He thinks it's hilarious, apparently loves the attention, but no way was he intentionally trolling, tho. There's just no way.

I don't believe he was trolling but do believe that he is using the idiots calling it a Nazi salute to his advantage

Agree, Hog. The left hasn't figured out that when they started leveling serious accusations at common things people do everyday, common people started thinking they had gone too far. Common people, those who made "o.k." symbols with their hands or waved at people with an extended arm, etc. saw not only the lunacy of the left, they saw themselves in those who were being unfairly accused.

It is part of what started the great shift rightward in this last election. #MeToo, crying "Racism" at every criticism, calling people Nazis for voting for a Kennedy! The left overplayed their hand drastically.

The shame of it all is, when Trump does do things that are totalitarian, or even National Socialist, the opposition will have lost all credibility and their voices will not be heard.

Example 1: TikTok. I cringe every time Trump suggests that TikTok should fork over $500 billion to the US for the US to provide a license for TikTok to operate and make money. That is textbook National Socialism, yet the social justice warriors on the board are too busy with conjured up slights to express (correct) objections to this policy. What is worse, the conservatives here have uttered nary a word because they want to celebrate the "crying libs" in their midst.

Example 2: Ban on birthright citizenship. I know you (@hog88) are with me on this, but there are other right-leaning posters here who are not. This is not an executive order situation. This is a constitutional amendment issue. We have given Trump, (and many presidents before him) the power to implement policies that are unconstitutional. We have given them Emperor power. Sure, the courts are a check. but by the time the courts get around to making decisions, too much damage is done.

The President extorting businesses to only allow them license to operate and make money if they partner with the US government? - that is totalitarian. The President deciding to override the Constitution in determining who is a citizen? - that is totalitarian.

But, no, we are worried about a rich autistic man's wave. Talk about missing the forest for the trees...........

Uh-Oh. I am about to get jumped by the entire board, aren't I?

 

[RockyTop85]

Life is good, been a busy 1.5 years, stopping by VN between assignments.

I'd just hope this is not rash promise-keeping at the cost of lawful discretion; the 1500 number concerns me. I'd like to have seen Bondi already confirmed and this be a more visibly deliberative process.

Looks like this discussion may have been entirely academic.

Granting Pardons And Commutation Of Sentences For Certain Offenses Relating To The Events At Or Near The United States Capitol On January 6, 2021 – The White House

BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA A PROCLAMATION This proclamation ends a grave national injustice that has been perpetrated upon the

www.whitehouse.gov

(a) commute the sentences of the following individuals convicted of offenses related to events that occurred at or near the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021, to time served as of January 20, 2025:
(b) grant a full, complete and unconditional pardon to all other individuals convicted of offenses related to events that occurred at or near the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021;

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I have 2500 hours in Herks. I'll fly that mission for free

So cool. Rather have your job than play in the NFL. I know you're civilian now and close to retiring (forced due to stupid policy?) But I envy your career path greatly. Gotta be really cool to fly, even though its work. Do you have a smaller personal aircraft or plan on flying after leaving the airlines? I would give my left nut just to have an ultralight. Hoping to pull that off when i get 1 more kid thru college

 

[hjeagle1vol]

I only hope that this indeed comes to pass. Rand Paul is just the bulldog to bring this scumbag to justice or at least expose his crimes against humanity for all to see.

Despite Biden Pardon, Fauci Still Faces Legal Perils. Here They Are.

President Biden’s pardon of Dr. Anthony Fauci may protect the former National Institutes of Health official from immediate criminal prosecution, but some critics say he is not completely out of

www.realclearinvestigations.com

Exposing the global criminals would be a huge first step. I would add release the Epstein evidence. Nobody ever asks why his trafficker was arrested but none of his clients

 

[hog88]

We should absolutely extradite him….


To some boys I know up in Tazwell.

That would be acceptable.

 

[hog88]

I think he is a right wing nationalist loon - viewing it through that prism.....???????????????

LOL

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Outstanding. Now let’s build some new nuclear plants to power this thing.

Yeah like 30 or more. If everyone is allegedly gonna drive and therefore charge electric cars...gonna need a new one and the necessary grid upgrades in every state with a sizable population. If we start the planning and permitting process now, maybe we can get a few online by 2050. In the Red states anyway. See: every power plant constructed post WW2.

Edit: I will gladly settle for just protecting the current grid from an EMP attack that will instantly knock this country back to say 1870. I believe the most recent estimate to do that was only a couple Billion dollars. Should have been immediately greenlit when we realized there was a credible threat from both China and Russia via high altitude/sub orbital nuclear detonation.

 

[hog88]

Agree, Hog. The left hasn't figured out that when they started leveling serious accusations at common things people do everyday, common people started thinking they had gone too far. Common people, those who made "o.k." symbols with their hands or waved at people with an extended arm, etc. saw not only the lunacy of the left, they saw themselves in those who were being unfairly accused.

It is part of what started the great shift rightward in this last election. #MeToo, crying "Racism" at every criticism, calling people Nazis for voting for a Kennedy! The left overplayed their hand drastically.

The shame of it all is, when Trump does do things that are totalitarian, or even National Socialist, the opposition will have lost all credibility and their voices will not be heard.

Example 1: TikTok. I cringe every time Trump suggests that TikTok should fork over $500 billion to the US for the US to provide a license for TikTok to operate and make money. That is textbook National Socialism, yet the social justice warriors on the board are too busy with conjured up slights to express (correct) objections to this policy. What is worse, the conservatives here have uttered nary a word because they want to celebrate the "crying libs" in their midst.

Example 2: Ban on birthright citizenship. I know you (@hog88) are with me on this, but there are other right-leaning posters here who are not. This is not an executive order situation. This is a constitutional amendment issue. We have given Trump, (and many presidents before him) the power to implement policies that are unconstitutional. We have given them Emperor power. Sure, the courts are a check. but by the time the courts get around to making decisions, too much damage is done.

The President extorting businesses to only allow them license to operate and make money if they partner with the US government? - that is totalitarian. The President deciding to override the Constitution in determining who is a citizen? - that is totalitarian.

But, no, we are worried about a rich autistic man's wave. Talk about missing the forest for the trees...........

Uh-Oh. I am about to get jumped by the entire board, aren't I?

Well said.

 

[Big Orange#1]

 

[C-south]

I think he is a right wing nationalist loon - viewing it through that prism.....???????????????

Heil have to disagree.

 

[RockyTop85]

It would make so much more financial sense to do this and allow front line workers whose jobs can be done from home to continue to work from home. Silly that we didn’t do this two years ago.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[hog88]

It would make so much more financial sense to do this and allow front line workers whose jobs can be done from home to continue to work from home. Silly that we didn’t do this two years ago.

It would make more sense to do this and get rid of 2/3rds of federal govt workers.

 

[Orangeburst]

If he faces potential state criminal charges he gets the best of both worlds; he gets to accept the pardon on the federal charges while asserting the 5th on on testimony that may relate to the state charges. That is how I'd play it if I were him.

I could be wrong, but dont believe a state can prosecute a federal official acting on behalf of federal government.

 

[LSU-SIU]

It would make more sense to do this and get rid of 2/3rds of federal govt workers.

I was thinking the same dam thing.

"Which one of you guys wants to work from home? Cool, here's your pink slip."

 

[RockyTop85]

It would make more sense to do this and get rid of 2/3rds of federal govt workers.

Good luck with that. In reality, this is just a move to privatize management of the buildings and then lease them back from the donors who pushed to convince people like you that this opinion made you look smart.

 

[hog88]

Good luck with that. In reality, this is just a move to privatize management of the buildings and then lease them back from the donors who pushed to convince people like you that this opinion made you look smart.

Good ol Rocky, just as pleasant as ever.

 

[Ritzwatch]

Depending on the charges double jeopardy could attach, so if the federal government indicts the State could be barred. (?) Of course, there are other issues, which he could be brought before countless grand juries at the federal and state levels for testimony.

All the people pardoned (without a indictment or criminal referral) should be investigated for criminal activity as apparently the top law enforcement at the federal government had reason to believe they were involved in a crime. It is also possible that Joe and Jill Biden could be called to testify, although there could be some hangups depending on the situation.

The feds and the state are separate sovereigns for charging purposes. Double jeopardy would not be a bar. That is why a defendant can be charged for, say, drug and gun charges by both feds and state authorities, though in practice one defers to the other. Think in terms of those who have been acquitted by state courts to then have federal charges brought to assauge the masses.

separate sovereigns doctrine

www.law.cornell.edu

I totally agree that we should have investigations, even if there are no charges brought. The American people deserve to know answers, even if they are non-actionable, if for no other reason than to help us make sure it never happens again (if, indeed, those answers show wrongdoing.)

Joe would probably be able to assert presidential privileges. Jill would likely either be able to assert some version of said privilege (if she were an "advisor" to the president,) or, at a minimum, either may be able to assert some sort of spousal privilege that protects them from Jill's testimony against Joe.

 

[RockyTop85]

Good ol Rocky, just as pleasant as ever.

Just trying to save you from the rotted corpse of your HS Civics teacher, which is trying to coalesce to beat you about the head with a yard stick because you’re ruining her legacy.

 

[jmacvols1]

 

[LSU-SIU]

Good luck with that. In reality, this is just a move to privatize management of the buildings and then lease them back from the donors who pushed to convince people like you that this opinion made you look smart.

A person who tried his best to convince everyone wearing a mask was going to save them has it all figured it out.

I'm praying Trump finds a cure.