President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

Assuming there's some basis of agreement here, what the practical steps down the path? A direct frontal assault on the Federal Reserve will die on the vine, so how do we begin boiling the frog one leg at a time? Perhaps the tax system which is the primary mechanism by which politicians incur corporate generosity and endow wth tax favoritism, and has resulted in a smiley-face form of fascism we call corporatism - ?

The elephant in the room is the system is built like all the prior systems i.e. attachment of interest to your medium of exchange. Once interest is attached to the medium of exchange, the system must expand exponentially forever to survive. The issue here is humans don't have unlimited power to expand the supply or demand long-term (say a generation or two) without having the power needed for the exponential expansion. The current system only lives by fiction because the Federal Reserve was able to put us into overtime in 2008-2010 with a stick save. You might be able to find articles about China speaking (in 2008) of not able to break off from the U.S. dollar/Federal Reserve System as that would mean RESET.

You have fake money, and plenty of it as it which is expanding the corruption, bizarre behavior, etc. At the same time, you are having a slow breakdown of being able to maintain the actual economy i.e. no skilled labor, nobody works, lack of supplies, bizarre behavior, etc.

There really isn't any easy fix to these problems... the fix is RESET. You're entering where the interest rate chart goes vertical.

Nobody has explained to me the idea of how you exponentially expand the money supply infinitely without the exponential growth of the supply of resource/labor and demand. We're living a lie. 🤷‍♂️
 
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That's fine but don't pretend that it would notnhave happened but for Trump. That's just not true.
After the last 4 years you need to go put your nose in the corner until we say it’s ok to join the rest of the group.

It evident by all the random posts you start and your bias that you provide nothing here.
 

Elon Musk's Shocking Troll of Trump's $500 Billion Stargate AI Announcement: Live updates​


Elon Musk has poured cold water on the $500 billion investment in Artifical Intelligence celebrated by Donald Trump at the White House in a shock sign of a rift.

The tech billionaire appeared to troll the Stargate announcement that included a cash injection from Japanese investment company Softbank and plans to build data centers across the U.S.

'They don’t actually have the money,' Musk posted on X in response to a press release from Open AI announcing the funding.


It's one of the first signs of a fracture between Musk and Trump, who have been virtually inseparable since the president's election win in November.

 
I’m interested in how effective DOGE is at making real changes and I’m fully in favor of the pullback on things like DEI and the woke agenda.

The DOGE thing has been needed for far too long. I’ve always said the government bureaucracy is ripe for a six sigma like study. The amount of waste is almost too much to even comprehend.
If DOGE can cut 10% of the government fat, it will be an unquestioned success. More than that will be better.
 
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After the last 4 years you need to go put your nose in the corner until we say it’s ok to join the rest of the group.

It evident by all the random posts you start and your bias that you provide nothing here.
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Yup that scheme is going to F US. However, huff is entirely correct about the need for mass immigration. Aging population, with a decline in birth rates, is going to wreck Europe. China too. Elon talks a ton about this. We get a 20 year front row seat to see how they handle this before it comes home to roost here

It will be problematic, but only because we’ve set up the system in such a way. We cannot keep the pyramid scheme running mining forever, and mass immigration only fixes the problem short term.

The real problem is the government has outspent the population growth. If we think of this in terms of a private enterprise, they don’t grow infinitely. And when they’ve out-invested their growth rate, it’s suicide to fill it with lower cost, no margin product. It works short term but only exacerbates the problem down the road.

The only the enterprise remains relevant is by structurally changing its cost structure. Our government grows when times are good and seems to grow more when times are bad.

If mass immigration is the solution we’ve boxed ourselves into, it’s time for some massive restructuring.
 
The first thing that needs to happen is to make it easier/simpler to get rid of underperforming fed workers, that way the ones undisciplined enough to work remote can be easily canned.

I think that is what they are doing right now with the way he is going about it. Unfortunately, with HR policies and laws (even in Corporate world), it is hard to define and fire non-performers but there is a lot of flexibility if you "down size" or by encouraging "in office" support. A lot of the non-performers prefer the work-at-home model and may voluntarily leave.
 
It will be problematic, but only because we’ve set up the system in such a way. We cannot keep the pyramid scheme running mining forever, and mass immigration only fixes the problem short term.

The real problem is the government has outspent the population growth. If we think of this in terms of a private enterprise, they don’t grow infinitely. And when they’ve out-invested their growth rate, it’s suicide to fill it with lower cost, no margin product. It works short term but only exacerbates the problem down the road.

The only the enterprise remains relevant is by structurally changing its cost structure. Our government grows when times are good and seems to grow more when times are bad.

If mass immigration is the solution we’ve boxed ourselves into, it’s time for some massive restructuring.
But that's not really the problem. The problem is we aren't making babies and have an aging population. Population decline is the main issue.
 
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It will be problematic, but only because we’ve set up the system in such a way. We cannot keep the pyramid scheme running mining forever, and mass immigration only fixes the problem short term.

The real problem is the government has outspent the population growth. If we think of this in terms of a private enterprise, they don’t grow infinitely. And when they’ve out-invested their growth rate, it’s suicide to fill it with lower cost, no margin product. It works short term but only exacerbates the problem down the road.

The only the enterprise remains relevant is by structurally changing its cost structure. Our government grows when times are good and seems to grow more when times are bad.

If mass immigration is the solution we’ve boxed ourselves into, it’s time for some massive restructuring.

True and the biggest spender is still Health Care. We don't have a plan on how to fix it. The high costs of prescription drugs, medical equipment, and insurance issues are the three headed monster.

One area that would help the USA is major tort reform and perhaps even removing or mitigating impact of professional licensing (notably with Doctors). Malpractice Insurance is part of the reason health care costs are skyrocketing.
 
It will be problematic, but only because we’ve set up the system in such a way. We cannot keep the pyramid scheme running mining forever, and mass immigration only fixes the problem short term.

The real problem is the government has outspent the population growth. If we think of this in terms of a private enterprise, they don’t grow infinitely. And when they’ve out-invested their growth rate, it’s suicide to fill it with lower cost, no margin product. It works short term but only exacerbates the problem down the road.

The only the enterprise remains relevant is by structurally changing its cost structure. Our government grows when times are good and seems to grow more when times are bad.

If mass immigration is the solution we’ve boxed ourselves into, it’s time for some massive restructuring.

If the government stops exponentially growing the money supply, the system will collapse as the chart is now in the near vertical phase. The money supply generation burned out 10-20 years ago on the private side.
 
Why is that a problem for us?

A system built upon interest attached to your medium of exchange i.e. requires exponential growth. No amount of Mexicans is going to solve that unless you can exponentially grow them.

The system will do what it always and only can do, eventually peak... collapse.... than the liquidation of the unfunded liabilities will have to occur.
 
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A system built upon interest attached to your medium of exchange i.e. requires exponential growth. No amount of Mexicans is going to solve that unless you can exponentially grow them.

The system will do what it always and only can do, eventually peak... collapse.... than the liquidation of the unfunded liabilities will have to occur.

Exactly, it’s a big problem for because it’s a pyramid scheme. Congress made the problem.
 
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I think that is what they are doing right now with the way he is going about it. Unfortunately, with HR policies and laws (even in Corporate world), it is hard to define and fire non-performers but there is a lot of flexibility if you "down size" or by encouraging "in office" support. A lot of the non-performers prefer the work-at-home model and may voluntarily leave.
Everywhere I’ve worked and everywhere I’ve heard about, when management tried to make life hard in order to “trim the fat,” the top performers who knew their worth are the ones who left and went somewhere else.
 

Elon Musk's Shocking Troll of Trump's $500 Billion Stargate AI Announcement: Live updates​


Elon Musk has poured cold water on the $500 billion investment in Artifical Intelligence celebrated by Donald Trump at the White House in a shock sign of a rift.

The tech billionaire appeared to troll the Stargate announcement that included a cash injection from Japanese investment company Softbank and plans to build data centers across the U.S.

'They don’t actually have the money,' Musk posted on X in response to a press release from Open AI announcing the funding.


It's one of the first signs of a fracture between Musk and Trump, who have been virtually inseparable since the president's election win in November.



Probably because Trump called Sam Altman the world's leading expert on AI. Musk relegated to role of advisor on committee with no power named after a meme coin.... Musk starting to see that he doesn't actually have any power.
 
This speech was in that show Lioness and IMO pretty damn accurate and describes about where we're at. I do disagree with it being a bad thing to question the institutions.

The first sign an empire is failing is when its people question the institutions the empire was built on. The structure of government, the churches, the schools. They reject God because the emperors begin believing they are God. And the people become so rich, everyone believes they are an emperor as well. And too good to do the jobs that built the empire in the first place. So they outsource those jobs. And they open their borders to allow people desperate to do all the other jobs the other people are too rich to do. Then comes the guilt for all this wealth. But still the empire thrives. And now everyone questions their wealth. Then they question themselves. And then they reject everything that built the empire to begin with. They destroy their own symbols, attack themselves like a cancer, attack the people who protect the empire, attack you for protecting it.
And all the people who lived like emperors will know the suffering they blamed themselves for creating. And they will be slaughtered. And a new empire will rise from its ashes. Then the cycle begins again.

Read more at: s02e05 - Shatter the Moon - Special Ops: Lioness Transcripts - TvT
 
Exactly, it’s a big problem for because it’s a pyramid scheme. Congress made the problem.

The problem existed before Congress was even a thing, meaning... humans keep running the same system over and over. This is the biggest the system has ever been in our known history, it will require the biggest liquidation.

Every major religion has warned of this i.e. basic Math. Once you do it at scale... tick tock.
 
Agree, Hog. The left hasn't figured out that when they started leveling serious accusations at common things people do everyday, common people started thinking they had gone too far. Common people, those who made "o.k." symbols with their hands or waved at people with an extended arm, etc. saw not only the lunacy of the left, they saw themselves in those who were being unfairly accused.

It is part of what started the great shift rightward in this last election. #MeToo, crying "Racism" at every criticism, calling people Nazis for voting for a Kennedy! The left overplayed their hand drastically.

The shame of it all is, when Trump does do things that are totalitarian, or even National Socialist, the opposition will have lost all credibility and their voices will not be heard.

Example 1: TikTok. I cringe every time Trump suggests that TikTok should fork over $500 billion to the US for the US to provide a license for TikTok to operate and make money. That is textbook National Socialism, yet the social justice warriors on the board are too busy with conjured up slights to express (correct) objections to this policy. What is worse, the conservatives here have uttered nary a word because they want to celebrate the "crying libs" in their midst.

Example 2: Ban on birthright citizenship. I know you (@hog88) are with me on this, but there are other right-leaning posters here who are not. This is not an executive order situation. This is a constitutional amendment issue. We have given Trump, (and many presidents before him) the power to implement policies that are unconstitutional. We have given them Emperor power. Sure, the courts are a check. but by the time the courts get around to making decisions, too much damage is done.

The President extorting businesses to only allow them license to operate and make money if they partner with the US government? - that is totalitarian. The President deciding to override the Constitution in determining who is a citizen? - that is totalitarian.

But, no, we are worried about a rich autistic man's wave. Talk about missing the forest for the trees...........

Uh-Oh. I am about to get jumped by the entire board, aren't I?

Agree. First, he has to know that he can't eliminate birthright citizenship with an EO. And second, the entire EO thing has gotten completely out of control. Like you said, now it's "our" guy doing it so everyone on our side cheers every move, even the ones like TikTok that should make any critical thinker cringe.

My biggest concern about Trump is that he sees himself and government as the solution to virtually every problem, which is the exact thing we need to get away from. Creating more bureaucracy to solve problems is the opposite of draining the swamp, it just replaces 'your' swamp with 'our' swamp, and the bureaucracy never goes away and is generally warped when the other side gets control. See Homeland Security as the classic example.

DOGE is theoretically supposed to be dissolved by July 2026, but I'm not holding my breath. If it is, it will be the first ever federal bureaucracy to my knowledge that didn't grow into a permanent monstrosity.
 
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Everywhere I’ve worked and everywhere I’ve heard about, when management tried to make life hard in order to “trim the fat,” the top performers who knew their worth are the ones who left and went somewhere else.

It definitely isn't easy because even if you are not on the chopping block, you still have to pick up the extra workload. Dealing with that setup.

I haven't seen enough to know whether that works or not, I just have seen the signs, through experience, of that is how companies have been approaching downsizing. They tend to encourage people to leave through procedure changes versus just outright letting people go.
 

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