President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[ETV]

Probably Jill, since she voted for him.

No staff officer would write this letter to Trump. This was all Jill Biden.

 

[StarRaider]

 

[hog88]

That's why they have bosses

The problem with WFH is too many people think they can.

Joe is a good employee while in an office environment but gets distracted trying to work from home.

Jill is disciplined enough to work from home and excels.

Joe gets pissed because he’s not allowed to WFH while Jill is and causes friction around the office.

 

[ButchPlz]

My significant other works at a company that has never had an office, they will probably never have an office.. it works for them I guess. They have huge margins, so if they can get 50% of an employee they are fine with it. Like I mentioned, it not unusual to find people that are working multiple jobs... the more jobs the better because if they are let go from one... they have that many more to fall back on. Not even joking.

As a generalization, you are lucky to get 50%, in the case of walmart workers that show up you are lucky to get 10%..

I have been fully remote my whole career, and am happy with it. I can deliver relatively well on the schedule I want (I function better early in the AM, have freedom to automate/learn, etc.) while also meeting the client and company needs. I don't mind lacking the social aspect, but the job I have doesn't necessarily require it all the time. For example, I go to the office once a week not expecting to get anything done and treating it as a social time.

I do know, however, that we have people that absolutely suck at the remote work, and need the regular ass kickings the office environment gives to get things done. This stuff isn't a one-size-fits-all solution.

That said, knowing the average federal employee and the structure of the bureaucracy, return to office should absolutely be mandated. In almost every fed position, you cannot get any valuable assignments done without standing in front of the next rung on the ladder and forcing it through. From my experience, most of the people that want to stay remote are generating "work" but not generating any value or improvement.

 

[volbound1700]

What is stopping you from onboarding people during an in-office probationary period.

Nothing is stopping them. In my specific role, office can work but think about a highly technical or development engineering role. You really need to show them the process and have them present at manufacturing or engineering office sites.

Question for you as an example in your profession, can you do court 100% remote even with Jury? Would you be comfortable with that? If so, why even have physical courts.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Nothing is stopping them. In my specific role, office can work but think about a highly technical or development engineering role. You really need to show them the process and have them present at manufacturing or engineering office sites.

Question for you as an example in your profession, can you do court 100% remote even with Jury? Would you be comfortable with that? If so, why even have physical courts.

Every job can be remote than why do they keep telling me I need more Mexicans?

If were are talking about what is wrong with the country i.e. the thread in general, it has little to do with remote or non-remote working. Each business and situation is different. Lack of talent and work ethic comes to mind which to me is not solvable by means people want to hear.

 

[volbound1700]

The problem with WFH is too many people think they can.

Joe is a good employee while in an office environment but gets distracted trying to work from home.

Jill is disciplined enough to work from home and excels.

Joe gets pissed because he’s not allowed to WFH while Jill is and causes friction around the office.

My dad is retired and lives in a Golf Community, he stated that he literally sees young people out playing golf when they are supposed to be at work. There are people who are definitely abusing the system which hurts us all.

What I tend to find out is that they are very strict, initially, with these mandates but once they are up and running, they give the people that are performing more leeway. Issue is that any company policy is basically rolled out to everyone. That was my initial point in all of this, you can't just single people out now days, you have to do mass roll outs every time there is an issue.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[StarRaider]

I have been fully remote my whole career, and am happy with it. I can deliver relatively well on the schedule I want (I function better early in the AM, have freedom to automate/learn, etc.) while also meeting the client and company needs. I don't mind lacking the social aspect, but the job I have doesn't necessarily require it all the time. For example, I go to the office once a week not expecting to get anything done and treating it as a social time.

I do know, however, that we have people that absolutely suck at the remote work, and need the regular ass kickings the office environment gives to get things done. This stuff isn't a one-size-fits-all solution.

That said, knowing the average federal employee and the structure of the bureaucracy, return to office should absolutely be mandated. In almost every fed position, you cannot get any valuable assignments done without standing in front of the next rung on the ladder and forcing it through. From my experience, most of the people that want to stay remote are generating "work" but not generating any value or improvement.

I have been working from home since 2016 when we started running out of office space and was offered WFH arrangement... took me about 2 sec for find a box for my stuff and hit the door... but my daily coworkers are all over the country and we collaborate via MS teams and cloud based file storage sharing

 

[hog88]

My dad is retired and lives in a Golf Community, he stated that he literally sees young people out playing golf when they are supposed to be at work. There are people who are definitely abusing the system which hurts us all.

What I tend to find out is that they are very strict, initially, with these mandates but once they are up and running, they give the people that are performing more leeway. Issue is that any company policy is basically rolled out to everyone. That was my initial point in all of this, you can't just single people out now days, you have to do mass roll outs every time there is an issue.

I have a small office staff, 12. We've worked through the covid WFH problems we had and got rid of some people I hated to lose but they couldn't WFH but were good employees with structure. One being dear daughter.

I think we came out stronger with a hybrid (for some) work schedule.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Here's something else the woke leftist morons will protest about.

 

[hog88]

Here's something else the woke leftist morons will protest about.

So more crap coming out of Detroit?

 

[VOLS INC.]

Yes.

He’s back!!

 

[ButchPlz]

My dad is retired and lives in a Golf Community, he stated that he literally sees young people out playing golf when they are supposed to be at work. There are people who are definitely abusing the system which hurts us all.

What I tend to find out is that they are very strict, initially, with these mandates but once they are up and running, they give the people that are performing more leeway. Issue is that any company policy is basically rolled out to everyone. That was my initial point in all of this, you can't just single people out now days, you have to do mass roll outs every time there is an issue.

I'm frequently out doing other stuff during my "workday". Sometimes it's even fun stuff.

If people get paid to deliver, whether they do it 9-5 or do it in any other random smattering of hours doesn't really matter, if they deliver. It's highly unreasonable to judge someone playing golf "when they're supposed to be at work" in any way.

 

[RockyTop85]

Nothing is stopping them. In my specific role, office can work but think about a highly technical or development engineering role. You really need to show them the process and have them present at manufacturing or engineering office sites.

Question for you as an example in your profession, can you do court 100% remote even with Jury? Would you be comfortable with that? If so, why even have physical courts.

Yes and no.

Yes: Remote court happened a lot during Covid. It had some benefits. In theory, more use of remote work under other circumstances could significantly reduce the amount of court time taken up by procedural functions, like passing cases, and open up court time to be spent pursuing maximum sentences for rapists and murderers.

No: I’m not saying every job can be done 100% remotely. That’s why I said earlier that the government would still need 33% ish of their footprint. Courtroom work is one of those that requires at least some in person. You can’t do a jury trial remotely, it would be unconstitutional, etc.

In reality, the same people who were too lazy to get stuff done in court were still a nightmare to deal with in person.

But I could write appeals, contracts, and other documents in a remote setting and could receive training and have my work reviewed by a supervisor via Teams or some similar software. I could probably do almost anything involving an administrative hearing remotely. I could advise a corporation on specific issues and obtain local counsel from home, too.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

So more crap coming out of Detroit?

Looks like it, hog. Jobs are coming back to those who need them..

 

[hog88]

Looks like it, hog. Jobs are coming.

It's Dodge, they'll be laid off in a couple years.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

It's Dodge, they'll be laid off in a couple years.

Maybe. Who knows?

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[hUTch2002]

glad to see we finally have a president focusing on the things that matter.

IF he does that, wouldn't surprise me, I will treat it like Pluto. Pluto is still a planet to me, it will remain the Gulf of Mexico to me.

Gulf of Pluto

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

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[85SugarVol]

That's like arguing we should require all work from home to prevent sexual harassment. We had to fire people for harassment in th work place. This would stop it. Jesus

I spent years in the restaurant industry before going back to business school. How many mangers lost because they couldn’t keep their hands off the wait staff lol….

 

[Ritzwatch]

Yes and no.

Yes: Remote court happened a lot during Covid. It had some benefits. In theory, more use of remote work under other circumstances could significantly reduce the amount of court time taken up by procedural functions, like passing cases, and open up court time to be spent pursuing maximum sentences for rapists and murderers.

No: I’m not saying every job can be done 100% remotely. That’s why I said earlier that the government would still need 33% ish of their footprint. Courtroom work is one of those that requires at least some in person. You can’t do a jury trial remotely, it would be unconstitutional, etc.

In reality, the same people who were too lazy to get stuff done in court were still a nightmare to deal with in person.

But I could write appeals, contracts, and other documents in a remote setting and could receive training and have my work reviewed by a supervisor via Teams or some similar software. I could probably do almost anything involving an administrative hearing remotely. I could advise a corporation on specific issues and obtain local counsel from home, too.

"Passing Cases"? Does that mean re-assigning a new date?

Did you have jury trials remotely? Our local news had tons of stories of the backlog of defendants in jail due to lack of ability to have jury trials. DA used it as an excuse reason to offer sweetheart deals to defendants.

 

[hUTch2002]

That pic is hilarious!

 

[RockyTop85]

"Passing Cases"? Does that mean re-assigning a new date?

Did you have jury trials remotely? Our local news had tons of stories of the backlog of defendants in jail due to lack of ability to have jury trials. DA used it as an excuse reason to offer sweetheart deals to defendants.

Yes. Reassigning a new date to wait for lab results or discovery etc. I can sign up for a doctor’s appointment or a haircut without going to the office, there’s really no reason to take up the court’s time with that, in my opinion.

Can’t do jury trials remotely, like I said.

Also, DA’s NEED to give defendants sweetheart deals, Covid or not, because scratching your ass is a crime and the system gets bogged down with that crap. A lot of times, the victims of crimes aren’t believable or the police are dumb and messed something up.

Dumping bad cases should be the norm. Makes time to put the screws to the perp in big cases. If you don’t trust your DA’s decision about which cases to dump, you need to find somebody better and volunteer for their campaign.