President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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utvolpj said:
So lawfare is OK as long as it's directed at someone else? This never ends if that's the case. If Trump is serious about shrinking the govt then that is a huge part too. Something tells me it won't be in the chopping block though
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It never a good thing...but neither is killing someone but I'll bet that if it came down to it that you'd kill someone who was trying to kill you or your family right.
Say Trump goes after those who wrong him..lawfare and cuts out several departments and cuts from the budget..then he is shrinking government while meeting the opponent on an even field.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
It never a good thing...but neither is killing someone but I'll bet that if it came down to it that you'd kill someone who was trying to kill you or your family right.
Say Trump goes after those who wrong him..lawfare and cuts out several departments and cuts from the budget..then he is shrinking government while meeting the opponent on an even field.
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Sorry but you make up the most nonsensical comparison situations. A better one would be the Hatfield v Mccoy. No one really knows where it really started but they damn sure aren't going to stop shooting and let the other side win no matter the cost.
 
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utvolpj said:
Sorry but you make up the most nonsensical comparison situations. A better one would be the Hatfield v Mccoy. No one really knows where it really started but they damn sure aren't going to stop shooting and let the other side win no matter the cost.
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It's an apt comparison when your dealing with a political ideology being pushed by the left. A socialist, communist society is the death of the US ..so how is my comparison of a fight to the death not comparable...I agree it can go on for a while..but even the Hatfield and McCoys eventually settled and compromised... hopefully we can do it here before it wipes is out as much as it did them
 
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LouderVol said:
how are those two statements not contradictory in your mind?

How dare they use lawfare, it needs to stop; so we are putting in our own lawfare, that will make it better.
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Going after the individuals involved in the Hunter Biden laptop, COVID lab leak, Trump assassination attempts, or the RussiaGate conspiracy is not lawfare, it is more an effort to enforce the laws.
 
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LouderVol said:
how are those two statements not contradictory in your mind?

How dare they use lawfare, it needs to stop; so we are putting in our own lawfare, that will make it better.
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You didn't have a problem when the loser libs were going after Trump. Now you want to chime in and cry about lawfare. It's like that old saying, " what's good for the goose is good for the gander."
 
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dovervolz said:
You didn't have a problem when the loser libs were going after Trump. Now you want to chime in and cry about lawfare. It's like that old saying, " what's good for the goose is good for the gander."
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This is my whole issue. "Non-partisan" lolberts seemingly always avoid heavily criticizing one side in particular...
 
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The best revenge against the political/bureaucratic establishment is to kill it off (not literally) not going after them for petty criminal activity.
 
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dovervolz said:
You didn't have a problem when the loser libs were going after Trump. Now you want to chime in and cry about lawfare. It's like that old saying, " what's good for the goose is good for the gander."
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If I recall, he is a non-voter so he is going to be super correct in his mind on just about everything.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
For me the use of lawfare is more about evening the playing field....if we dont respond in a similar manner the. The next time the Dems are i. Charge they will feel emboldened to go even further...hell they are still double and tripling down on all the false rhetoric and lie from the last 4 years...you have to even the playing field to eventually raise the playing field...the high road only works if your opponent is willing to meet you there. If not then you can have your moral high ground while the world around you burns.
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lol. you are arguing that the Rs escalating the lawfare will DEESCALATE the future use of lawfare? Are you that naive? if you escalate then the Dems will certainly escalate as well. Ever seen a fight? If one guy swings, and the other guy swings back, does that deescalate the situation? Or does that turn it into a full time brawl?

the better thing to do would be to actually fix the system that completely removes lawfare as an option. you still hurt the Dems by taking away their tool, without stooping to their level, and without dooming the nation to the continuous cycle of political divide. but you and the Rs don't actually care about solutions or America, you are out to get yours and feel good doing it, darn the consequences.
 
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CobbVol said:
Going after the individuals involved in the Hunter Biden laptop, COVID lab leak, Trump assassination attempts, or the RussiaGate conspiracy is not lawfare, it is more an effort to enforce the laws.
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right, just like the D's believed going after Trump for taxes and procedural crimes and everything else was just enforcing the laws.

when you are specifically targeting POLITICAL ENEMIES for specific enforcement of select laws in order to punish them for past actions that is lawfare.
 
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dovervolz said:
You didn't have a problem when the loser libs were going after Trump. Now you want to chime in and cry about lawfare. It's like that old saying, " what's good for the goose is good for the gander."
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sure I did. I laughed at LG every time he created a new thread about getting trump. well probably not EVERY thread because LG made so dang many of him. I definitely used the YGHN (you got him now) expression to to mock their cases. I CONSTANTLY warned LG and luther that attacking Trump was just helping him and hurting America.

try getting off your knees and take the orange cheeto out of your mouth before you try to accuse me of being one sided.
 
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LouderVol said:
right, just like the D's believed going after Trump for taxes and procedural crimes and everything else was just enforcing the laws.

when you are specifically targeting POLITICAL ENEMIES for specific enforcement of select laws in order to punish them for past actions that is lawfare.
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You are missing it. This would be going after the DOJ, FBI, S.Service, NIH individuals involved in what I listed, not a political enemy like they did Trump.
 
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CobbVol said:
You are missing it. This would be going after the DOJ, FBI, S.Service, NIH individuals involved in what I listed, not a political enemy like they did Trump.
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you are making a distinction without a difference.

the argument is those individuals within the DOJ, FBI, SS, NIH etc etc are political creatures when they went after Trump for political reasons. so it is still lawfare to go after them.
 
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#870
Speaking of bureaucratic rot, we'll be waiting 3-6 months for the ACOE to approve a dredging permit for a project on private property all because a non-existent intermittent stream is still marked on a map. This is the kind of shizz this administration needs to attack.
 
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hog88 said:
Speaking of bureaucratic rot, we'll be waiting 3-6 months for the ACOE to approve a dredging permit for a project on private property all because a non-existent intermittent stream is still marked on a map. This is the kind of shizz this administration needs to attack.
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sounds like one of Obama's clean water act paper water ways. had a client lose their house because of one. and it wasn't one of their houses, it was their only house.
 
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LouderVol said:
sounds like one of Obama's clean water act paper water ways. had a client lose their house because of one. and it wasn't one of their houses, it was their only house.
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I'm not exactly sure how this came about, this subdivision has been in place for 20-30 years and their retention pond needs to be dredged. Out of the blue ACOE shows up and says this pond is fed by and is part of an intermittent stream. It's on their map but is nowhere to be found on the ground.

I'm betting one of the homeowners did some research and complained thinking it would get them out of paying the assessment.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
You are an ignorant Son of a,,,,,, how you refer to my marriage is insulting and degrading and identifies you as a racist child. I dud not order my wife thru a catalog, did you met your partner on a street corner?

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I’ll apologize but I wasn’t simply referring to you. I have a friend who did as well as his dad. When I was in the military and stationed in Korea they did it there too. My friend’s reasoning was the women there are more loyal. From seeing it with my own eyes the Korean women, in many cases, not so much.
 
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