President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

^^^^^^^trumpism^^^^^^^^^

Its a joke. Not my problem you have no sense of humor.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Here's luther's sister .... Pocahontas.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

 

[RockyTop85]

What a terrible way to run a business.

I wonder how many have realized that 3,000,000 federal employees x 100,000 average salary = 300,000,000,000 total annual payroll / 7,000,000,000,000 total budget x 100 percent = 4.29% ballpark of the total budget.

That’s your maximum ROI on eliminating federal workers.

Then adjust for loss of services.
Then figure out the point at which the influx of skilled labor causes wages to shrink.

But the way they’ve gone about it is so calculated and professional that I’m sure they’ve figured that out and will stop when they get close to the mark where the labor market can’t absorb anymore.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[Orangeburst]

So France shuts down a popular right wing tv station in France...we have seen all the protests last year.
UK is looking to give away Diego Garcia to the Mariuta Islands, however you spell it, which happens to be aligned with China.
Germany has opened tens of thousands of hate speech criminal investigations.
All have an immigrant problem
Economies in disarray, primarily due to Net Zero.

What a mess..a practical progressive Dem fantasy.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I wonder how many have realized that 3,000,000 federal employees x 100,000 average salary = 300,000,000,000 total annual payroll / 7,000,000,000,000 total budget x 100 percent = 4.29% ballpark of the total budget.

That’s your maximum ROI on eliminating federal workers.

Then adjust for loss of services.
Then figure out the point at which the influx of skilled labor causes wages to shrink.

But the way they’ve gone about it is so calculated and professional that I’m sure they’ve figured that out and will stop when they get close to the mark where the labor market can’t absorb anymore.

So having done some engineering cost estimating over the years the actual cost for care and feeding of any employee is considerably more than just payroll. Especially when you look at the generous benefits and pensions of federal employees.

An engineer that might make around $80-90 an hour is budgeted at around $150-175 and hour.

Also 5% isn’t a small amount for just the payroll. Plus now you can shrink the facility and infrastructure benefit also. I think the payback is a little better than 5%. This crosses into the private sector too. I’ve stated openly for years they could fire about 25% of the people where I work(ed) and if they truly culled the dead wood we wouldn’t miss a beat. In fact there was a big hit in the supply chain group end of last year and from discussions with the chiefs I’ve had we didn’t miss a beat. A good supply chain person is probably worth more than what they make. Most of them aren’t that good from my experiences.

It’s the common issue in defense contracting. When your allowable margin is regulated, even mandated, then to make more profit you have to spend more money. Inefficiency is actually rewarded. Where did the contractors learn this model? From their primary customer the US government

ETA: yes I realize in your example you were pointing to the entire government workforce also. I just kept the 5% as reference is all

 

[LSU-SIU]

Here's luther's sister .... Pocahontas.

It seems like the working Republicans are probably working this weekend with the working Democrats. The question is, what are you doing?

 

[C-south]

I wonder how many have realized that 3,000,000 federal employees x 100,000 average salary = 300,000,000,000 total annual payroll / 7,000,000,000,000 total budget x 100 percent = 4.29% ballpark of the total budget.

That’s your maximum ROI on eliminating federal workers.

Then adjust for loss of services.
Then figure out the point at which the influx of skilled labor causes wages to shrink.

But the way they’ve gone about it is so calculated and professional that I’m sure they’ve figured that out and will stop when they get close to the mark where the labor market can’t absorb anymore.

You must’ve dealt with federal workers unbeknownst to the rest of us.

 

[RockyTop85]

So having done some engineering cost estimating over the years the actual cost for care and feeding of any employee is considerably more than just payroll. Especially when you look at the generous benefits and pensions of federal employees.

An engineer that might make around $80-90 an hour is budgeted at around $150-175 and hour.

Also 5% isn’t a small amount for just the payroll. Plus now you can shrink the facility and infrastructure benefit also. I think the payback is a little better than 5%. This crosses into the private sector too. I’ve stated openly for years they could fire about 25% of the people where I work(ed) and if they truly culled the dead wood we wouldn’t miss a beat. In fact there was a big hit in the supply chain group end of last year and from discussions with the chiefs I’ve had we didn’t miss a beat. A good supply chain person is probably worth more than what they make. Most of them aren’t that good from my experiences.

It’s the common issue in defense contracting. When your allowable margin is regulated, even mandated, then to make more profit you have to spend more money. Inefficiency is actually rewarded. Where did the contractors learn this model? From their primary customer the US government

ETA: yes I realize in your example you were pointing to the entire government workforce also. I just kept the 5% as reference is all

So double it to 8.6% of the budget. It’s still a maximum with the actual savings being relatively small savings if you have to keep congressionally mandated services up and running.

Also, some of the govt workers I know have been mostly remote since before COVID (attorneys who draft decisions and can do all their work from documents stored on the network). Their agency had already downsized or eliminated some office spaces and is having to try to reacquire space.

 

[LSU-SIU]

I wonder how many have realized that 3,000,000 federal employees x 100,000 average salary = 300,000,000,000 total annual payroll / 7,000,000,000,000 total budget x 100 percent = 4.29% ballpark of the total budget.

That’s your maximum ROI on eliminating federal workers.

Then adjust for loss of services.
Then figure out the point at which the influx of skilled labor causes wages to shrink.

But the way they’ve gone about it is so calculated and professional that I’m sure they’ve figured that out and will stop when they get close to the mark where the labor market can’t absorb anymore.

That's not all they'll be cutting, you also have contract workers, military, etc. It all adds to the pie, also in the case of how the government has been acting... they're a hindrance to improvements and new administrations. Bigger savings will come from DOD, and whole agencies as you can get rid of. Get rid of 30-50% of DOD, get rid of most of the CIA/NSA, IRS, ED., etc.

The real savings will be RICO and Anti-trust civil and criminal prosecutions with medicare and the medical industry. (hard to say how much but its been a scam my whole life)

 

[RockyTop85]

You must’ve dealt with federal workers unbeknownst to the rest of us.

This makes even less sense than the rest of your posts.

 

[NorthDallas40]

So double it to 8% of the budget.

Since it won’t be all 3 million employees I’m not sure it would go that high. But I’d submit one singular action that knocks out your 8% is significant. That’s just total cost of workforce we still have the wasteful project grants that need to be killed. And yeah I do think that will be the bigger hitter than workforce reduction. $16B to date on CA high speed rail with zero to show for it. That’s just one program. The $5B for EV charging that never materialized is another. They add up. And I think that is the bigger piece of the pie.

 

[85SugarVol]

Lol. I'm a ridiculously hard worker.

You're way off base.

People who have never worked in food beverage, or run their own business have no idea. Lol, no idea at all.

 

[RockyTop85]

Since it won’t be all 3 million employees I’m not sure it would go that high. But I’d submit one singular action that knocks out your 8% is significant. That’s just total cost of workforce we still have the wasteful project grants that need to be killed. And yeah I do think that will be the bigger hitter than workforce reduction. $16B to date on CA high speed rail with zero to show for it. That’s just one program. The $5B for EV charging that never materialized is another. They add up. And I think that is the bigger piece of the pie.

Agree with the back half and would agree with 8% being significant IF that didn’t involve dissolving, e.g., the entire armed forces (pretty sure the 3M number includes them, but that could be wrong). I don’t want 8% of my tax burden returned if it means we can be conquered by ****ing Cuba.

Or if my insurance goes up or 600,000 freshly unemployed lawyers means I got to be way faster to be the first one to catch the ambulance.

 

[MercyPercy]

Less than 15% of the board knew or cared that the USA plays women’s soccer.

I wish I was misremembering but I just checked and the main thread (there were multiple) was 55 pages lmao

 

[LSU-SIU]

Agree with the back half and would agree with 8% being significant IF that didn’t involve dissolving, e.g., the entire armed forces (pretty sure the 3M number includes them, but that could be wrong). I don’t want 8% of my tax burden returned if it means we can be conquered by ****ing Cuba.

It doesn't. There are roughly 1.25m active and like another 1m reserve/guard or so. Reduction (30-50%) of the military can be somewhat easy in my opinion over say 10-15 years, but it wouldn't be overnight especially with larger system and base closure. All of these bases, buildings and equipment require large amounts of third party contractors. DOD and Medicare/medical industry are the big ones, closing down complete agencies will be second, than cuts along the remaining. A drastic reduction of carrier groups and larger naval procurement, get rid of most larger naval vessels which are obsolete because of new tech, etc.

 

[85SugarVol]

So France shuts down a popular right wing tv station in France...we have seen all the protests last year.
UK is looking to give away Diego Garcia to the Mariuta Islands, however you spell it, which happens to be aligned with China.
Germany has opened tens of thousands of hate speech criminal investigations.
All have an immigrant problem
Economies in disarray, primarily due to Net Zero.

What a mess..a practical progressive Dem fantasy.

Diego Garcia is bad news. That is a key outpost in the Indo-Pac.

 

[RockyTop85]

I wish I was misremembering but I just checked and the main thread (there were multiple) was 55 pages lmao

Rapinoe insulted Trump. Of course people here knew who she was. Nobody gave a **** about that crazy D list comedian anymore either, until she carried his severed head around.

 

[NCFisher]

Lol. ‘Women getting abused’ is logical? In track meets? Swim meets? Trans runners clubbing the other girls like baby seals before the race? That is about as emotional as I would expect from the party of aspiring Democrats. 0-1.

Your plan is to punish all the kids to keep them safe from abuse. The analogy fits. It’s discrediting that you don’t see it. 0-2.

“iM nOt mAKiNG eMoTioNal ApPeaLs…” compares it to hunting children. 0-3.

Will put a pin in the federal funding/strings attached argument until you at least read the very first factor articulated in SD v. Dole. But you’re headed for 0-4 on that one.

If there were an actual individual right at stake, you’d have legitimate options that don’t punish every kid in the state. As it is, you have the option of convincing the court that it falls under an actual right. Or, if you think women’s sports should be an individual right, you have the option of a constitutional amendment. And you have less cumbersome legitimate legislative options for revising Title IX or expressly tying strings to the funding (but perhaps a less compelling government interest in the latter while trying to disband the department of education because of states rights).

At present, it’s not an individual right any more than abortion is. That’s just more aspiring Democrat rhetoric. It’s purely a prudential determination. And you apparently think you and yours should be able to make those determinations and the people of Maine and their self-determinative government be damned if they don’t do what you think is best. In that situation, you’re seemingly fine with the executive blowing past the more targeted responses and ignoring the restrictions and directives put in place by the other two branches of the federal government and lawlessly punishing the entire state for it.

But as long as you claim it’s for iNdIvIDuAl RIgHts I guess your conservative bonafides remain unsullied.

Because we're amigos, I share advice given me: Look around, think, then opine.
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The game seemed routine until the opposing transgender player spiked the ball into McNabb's head, leaving her unconscious for 30 seconds. McNabb was rushed off the court, leaving her team to continue the match. The injuries she sustained — a concussion, neck damage and two black eyes — were just the beginning.

In the weeks that followed, McNabb was diagnosed with a traumatic brain injury, a brain bleed, partial paralysis and loss of peripheral vision on her right side. Cognitive impairments such as memory loss and confusion, coupled with severe headaches, have become a constant struggle.

“It was 100 per cent avoidable if only my rights as a female athlete had been more important than a man's feelings,” she was quoted as saying.

Volleyball Player Speaks Out After Life-Altering Injury By Trans Opponent

A new documentary highlights US volleyball player Payton McNabb’s journey from injury to becoming an advocate for women’s sports safety.

www.ndtv.com

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Oops...there I go mAKiNG eMoTioNal ApPeaLs again.

Say, did you know that in co-ed volleyball nets are set 7.5" higher to protect female players, a precaution that is absent when abusive males pose as women players - ? Mmm, mmm...I feel myself getting eMoTioNal again:
Take a recent game between the Collegiate Charter School of Lowell in Massachusetts and KIPP Academy in Lynn, Massachusetts. A trans-identified six-foot-tall male player with facial hair playing for the KIPP Academy girls’ basketball team, injured multiple players and eventually forced the Collegiate Charter School to forfeit. In now widely circulated video, he is seen wrestling the ball away from one of the girls, causing her to hit the ground where she clutches her back in pain.
trans-athlete-injures-multiple-girls-forcing-team-forfeit-wither-thou-feminism
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sniffle!...I'm such a wreck:

Dighton-Rehoboth superintendent Bill Runey said the girl suffered "significant facial and dental injuries" and ended up in the hospital.

The MIAA allows boys to play on girls' teams under the Massachusetts Equal Rights Amendment when there is not an equivalent team for boys. massachusetts-field-hockey-male-female-injury-swampscott-dighton-rehoboth
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Yes, yes - I understood your analogy, responding that the only locking up of boys and girls would be the state of Maine, with their choice is to either stand by abuse of female athletes at the hands of M2F 'athletes', or prepare to be denied ed. funding. I held out some hope the analogy was purposeful caricature; oh, well.

And yes, I do think it is a right to not be state-sanctioned victims of abusive men on the field, arena, rest room, or the locker room. If Maine government's idea of self-determination is to allow it, then I'm against Maine having that self-determination. We can both think of a litany of state-sanctioned evil and discrimination - "self-determination" - the Fed squashed. Are you taking an absolutist position, or just this issue?

Does this mean we're done with deer-hunting analogies to girls being obliterated physically and in opportunity, by males, for which Title IX was not created? I'd hoped we could flesh that out a bit.

I do like the clever alternating caps usage.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Agree with the back half and would agree with 8% being significant IF that didn’t involve dissolving, e.g., the entire armed forces (pretty sure the 3M number includes them, but that could be wrong). I don’t want 8% of my tax burden returned if it means we can be conquered by ****ing Cuba.

Or if my insurance goes up or 600,000 freshly unemployed lawyers means I got to be way faster to be the first one to catch the ambulance.

We don’t disagree. What you’re alluding to is crippling effectiveness in the sake of cost cutting. And I’ve had the same thought when you see these broad cuts. Then I’ve thought about observing corporate America over the years when they have to have immediate impact on the bottom line the first action is always the same. Widespread and significant RIFs. They are common place in corporate America when a company misses earnings. They aren’t common in government as best I can see there is no such accountability as to shareholders. I’d offer workforce bloat is inevitable in both corporations and the federal workforce. And I’d guess we can thin the herd in the federal workforce and be just fine. But to your point like I’ve agreed with it should be focused and not broad brushed. My wife was a municipal employee and they had civil service ratings yearly. Standardized quantified scoring on performance. I’m fairly certain the federal model is the same.

And if we’re going to hit workforce and payroll I’d submit the fatcat contractors probably yield more fruit. Like my overpaid ass now. . Let’s see Booz Allen and Haliburton take it in the shorts harder.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Because we're amigos, I share advice given me: Look around, think, then opine.
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The game seemed routine until the opposing transgender player spiked the ball into McNabb's head, leaving her unconscious for 30 seconds. McNabb was rushed off the court, leaving her team to continue the match. The injuries she sustained — a concussion, neck damage and two black eyes — were just the beginning.

In the weeks that followed, McNabb was diagnosed with a traumatic brain injury, a brain bleed, partial paralysis and loss of peripheral vision on her right side. Cognitive impairments such as memory loss and confusion, coupled with severe headaches, have become a constant struggle.

“It was 100 per cent avoidable if only my rights as a female athlete had been more important than a man's feelings,” she was quoted as saying.

Volleyball Player Speaks Out After Life-Altering Injury By Trans Opponent

A new documentary highlights US volleyball player Payton McNabb’s journey from injury to becoming an advocate for women’s sports safety.

www.ndtv.com

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Oops...there I go mAKiNG eMoTioNal ApPeaLs again.

Say, did you know that in co-ed volleyball nets are set 7.5" higher to protect female players, a precaution that is absent when abusive males pose as women players - ? Mmm, mmm...I feel myself getting eMoTioNal again:
Take a recent game between the Collegiate Charter School of Lowell in Massachusetts and KIPP Academy in Lynn, Massachusetts. A trans-identified six-foot-tall male player with facial hair playing for the KIPP Academy girls’ basketball team, injured multiple players and eventually forced the Collegiate Charter School to forfeit. In now widely circulated video, he is seen wrestling the ball away from one of the girls, causing her to hit the ground where she clutches her back in pain.
trans-athlete-injures-multiple-girls-forcing-team-forfeit-wither-thou-feminism
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sniffle!...I'm such a wreck:

Dighton-Rehoboth superintendent Bill Runey said the girl suffered "significant facial and dental injuries" and ended up in the hospital.

The MIAA allows boys to play on girls' teams under the Massachusetts Equal Rights Amendment when there is not an equivalent team for boys. massachusetts-field-hockey-male-female-injury-swampscott-dighton-rehoboth
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Yes, yes - I understood your analogy, responding that the only locking up of boys and girls would be the state of Maine, with their choice is to either stand by abuse of female athletes at the hands of M2F 'athletes', or prepare to be denied ed. funding. I held out some hope the analogy was purposeful caricature; oh, well.

And yes, I do think it is a right to not be state-sanctioned victims of abusive men on the field, arena, rest room, or the locker room. If Maine government's idea of self-determination is to allow it, then I'm against Maine having that self-determination. We can both think of a litany of state-sanctioned evil and discrimination - "self-determination" - the Fed squashed. Are you taking an absolutist position, or just this issue?

Does this mean we're done with deer-hunting analogies to girls being obliterated physically and in opportunity, by males for whom Title IX was not created? I'd hoped we could flesh that out a bit.

I do like the clever alternating caps usage.

In HS in gym we're playing co-ed volleyball, my friend who was a super athlete spiked it on a girl and broke her arm. The next day, she was in the stands with a cast... I spiked it way out of bounds in the stands (couldn't play) and hit the same girl in the face and broke her nose.

I broke two other girls fingers playing co-ed softball in like a week not long after that.

 

[C-south]

This makes even less sense than the rest of your posts.

Lol. What figured. You’re reaching Luther and lg levels of derangement.

 

[RockyTop85]

We don’t disagree. What you’re alluding to is crippling effectiveness in the sake of cost cutting. And I’ve had the same thought when you see these broad cuts. Then I’ve thought about observing corporate America over the years when they have to have immediate impact on the bottom line the first action is always the same. Widespread and significant RIFs. They are common place in corporate America when a company misses earnings. They aren’t common in government as best I can see there is no such accountability as to shareholders. I’d offer workforce bloat is inevitable in both corporations and the federal workforce. And I’d guess we can thin the herd in the federal workforce and be just fine. But to your point like I’ve agreed with it should be focused and not broad brushed. My wife was a municipal employee and they had civil service ratings yearly. Standardized quantified scoring on performance. I’m fairly certain the federal model is the same.

And if we’re going to hit workforce and payroll I’d submit the fatcat contractors probably yield more fruit. Like my overpaid ass now. . Let’s see Booz Allen and Haliburton take it in the shorts harder.

I’ve posted this before, and it may have been in response to you. My problem with cutting the federal workforce is that it’s kind of like a major hospital that’s been around longer than say 40 years. You ever been to one of those? They’re a maze. Because they realized they needed something and they built it on, time and time again.

I think if you fire or run off everybody below the regional management level in, say, the IRS, we’re going to have to rebuild the agency completely, from the ground up, because I don’t think anybody will know how to use their systems and do the actual work.

They need to put their efforts into finding the problem workers (and supervisors) and change rules to be able to more easily get rid of or demote them to bring that aspect of the government more in line with the private sector. IMO