President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[Orange_Crush]

That you won't admit it is testament to the fact that you'll reject any evidence on the subject.

You wishing it wasnt true isn't rational.

Put this kind of debating skills on a billboard and lg will never have another client.

 

[Majors]

So to shake up MSNBC they fire Joy Reid and replace her with…. Her? Lol.

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I knew I’ve seen her before. Arsenio Hall, playing a woman in Coming to America.

 

[Orangeburst]

wacking hundreds of Wagner troops, demanding the closure of a Russian gas pipeline, sanctions, asking for increased NATO spending…yea a Putin agent.

 

[lawgator1]

You still got those pee tapes? I bet you made your own “Mueller report” just to make yourself feel better.

I've said more than a dozen times it may well not be blackmail. It's simply Trump's pathological need to gain Putin's approval.

But you guys keep pretending that absence of blackmail means that Trump is not otherwise waaaayyyy too much of a Putin fan.

Absence of blackmail is not evidence Trump is not beholden to him. For whatever reason.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Put this kind of debating skills on a billboard and lg will never have another client.

LG prides himself as a master debater...

During COVID, he let his clients know he was a masked debater

 

[Orange_Crush]

LG prides himself as a master debater...

During COVID, he let his clients know he was a masked debater

All I know is that he drinks other peoples' urine as teeth whitener.

* Anyone who asks for proof merely outs themselves as unworthy of proof.
** He hasn't disproved it, so it's obviously true.

 

[volfanhill]

I've said more than a dozen times it may well not be blackmail. It's simply Trump's pathological need to gain Putin's approval.

But you guys keep pretending that absence of blackmail means that Trump is not otherwise waaaayyyy too much of a Putin fan.

Absence of blackmail is not evidence Trump is not beholden to him. For whatever reason.

You keep pretending that him not wanting to financially back Ukraine is a sign he's on some way compromised. Millions of Americans don't want to give them money or support them. Are they compromised too? It's an absurd stance absence of any proof. Especially when you consider Russia actively tried to interfere for Bernie more than once. Always quiet on that front aren't you.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

All I know is that he drinks other peoples' urine as teeth whitener.

* Anyone who asks for proof merely outs themselves as unworthy of proof.
** He hasn't disproved it, so it's obviously true.

Hell, he put me on ignore after I called him out for lies/calling him out for using the sense that I know he has in the Trump assassination thread....

I know Im opinionated but I wouldnt consider myself disrespectful

 

[lawgator1]

You keep pretending that him not wanting to financially back Ukraine is a sign he's on some way compromised. Millions of Americans don't want to give them money or support them. Are they compromised too? It's an absurd stance absence of any proof. Especially when you consider Russia actively tried to interfere for Bernie more than once. Always quiet on that front aren't you.

Saving money is usually about the fifth or sixth reason he ever gives for this. What he really focuses on is call Zelensky a dictator and repeating Putin lies such as that ukraine somehow goaded Russia into this.

 

[volfanhill]

Hell, he put me on ignore after I called him out for lies/calling him out for using the sense that I know he has in the Trump assassination thread....

I know Im opinionated but I wouldnt consider myself disrespectful

That thread really showed how willfully stupid some posters are

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

LMAO .... CNN is so dumb. They are rooting & pulling for the terrorists.

 

[BreatheUT]

I was actually for Canada.

My son-in-law is from Canada and a HUGE hockey fan.

Plus, that whole trump is a horrendously despicable human thing.

Lol...I'm not surprised you're for the greater bad.

 

[volfanhill]

Saving money is usually about the fifth or sixth reason he ever gives for this. What he really focuses on is call Zelensky a dictator and repeating Putin lies such as that ukraine somehow goaded Russia into this.

Well he actually cites millions of deaths most often. Then destruction. And then money. He didn't call Zelensky a Dictator until this week. Which, according to Rubio, is bc Zelensky lied about their negotiations. But you knew all of that and still just lied

 

[Majors]

You keep pretending that him not wanting to financially back Ukraine is a sign he's on some way compromised. Millions of Americans don't want to give them money or support them. Are they compromised too? It's an absurd stance absence of any proof. Especially when you consider Russia actively tried to interfere for Bernie more than once. Always quiet on that front aren't you.

77M voters > 10 cars in Knoxville with Ukraine stickers

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

I've said more than a dozen times it may well not be blackmail. It's simply Trump's pathological need to gain Putin's approval.

But you guys keep pretending that absence of blackmail means that Trump is not otherwise waaaayyyy too much of a Putin fan.

Absence of blackmail is not evidence Trump is not beholden to him. For whatever reason.

 

[rekinhavoc]

IF you didn't do anything wrong FartBoy/China Dupe and Tippy The Turtle didn't do anything wrong cooperate. Make him look foolish.

I am guessing they have already lawyered up.

 

[BreatheUT]

I've heard Trump say this, and we know this to be true in the eyes of the public. The Biden Administration left a mess in almost every sector of society. Additionally they planted their bureaucrats to dusrupt anything that would take place to clean up their mess. Unlike the first time, Trump realizes he has to clean house. It's worse than it's ever been. The democrats are angry because they see the jig may be up or severely disrupted.

 

[RockyTop85]

Okay...seems like we're both talking about some abusive, even dangerous state laws, that should be challenged. By jove, I think we're on the same page and precisely why I'm not a states' rights absolutist. It's a form of idealistic sophistry that ignores the practical reality the Fed doesn't have a stranglehold on the capacity to do harm to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. I like that as a republic, the two are set against each other in reaching resolution to resolve and respect those things.

So, what were we arguing about, again?

So after some minor political reassignment surgery, you were fooled into believing that your own post was a legit argument in favor of abortion. Not surprising, they’re the same argument.

My point: you can justify basically anything by presenting bad outcomes in an emotionally charged light and then saying we have an individual right to be free from X.

E.g. Asylum law required that some immigrant be released into the country and he did a bad thing, bail bond reform law released a guy from pretrial detention and he did a bad thing, January 6 insurrectionist held for four years without trial, our kids have a right to be free from school shootings, abortion, ad infinitum.

You can do the exact same thing and the kinds of people who don’t recognize emotional appeals and are easily manipulated by them will decide the policy should be stopped by whatever means necessary.

I did think it was pretty bold to respond to a post that identified your preferred resolution as lawless authoritarianism by essentially saying “self determination be damned, if they don’t vote my way.”

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

To each their own. It works as an attention grabber.

It cannot work in an organization as big as the federal government unless it’s filtered through the different management levels.

Start by reducing the number of management levels.

 

[BeardedVol]

Well he actually cites millions of deaths most often. Then destruction. And then money. He didn't call Zelensky a Dictator until this week. Which, according to Rubio, is bc Zelensky lied about their negotiations. But you knew all of that and still just lied

Considering that neither Trump, nor anyone in his administration will actually acknowledge the reality of Putin being the aggressor in this war, makes it hard to take him, or anyone trying to sanewash his statements seriously.

 

[BreatheUT]

DOGE appears to discover $2B with a B grant to a Stacey Abrams linked group. They are doing the peoples work for the greater good.

 

[TheDirector]

DOGE appears to discover $2B with a B grant to a Stacey Abrams linked group. They are doing the peoples work for the greater good.

Abrams is as crooked as they come. She was worth 100k when she first ran for Governor and now is worth over 3 million and that's probably low. Lots of shady companies and "groups" linked to her. Remember this gem?

Stacey Abrams received six-figure income from mysterious corporate entity

 

[NCFisher]

So after some minor political reassignment surgery, you were fooled into believing that your own post was a legit argument in favor of abortion. Not surprising, they’re the same argument.

My point: you can justify basically anything by presenting bad outcomes in an emotionally charged light and then saying we have an individual right to be free from X.

E.g. Asylum law required that some immigrant be released into the country and he did a bad thing, bail bond reform law released a guy from pretrial detention and he did a bad thing, January 6 insurrectionist held for four years without trial, our kids have a right to be free from school shootings, abortion, ad infinitum.

You can do the exact same thing and the kinds of people who don’t recognize emotional appeals and are easily manipulated by them will decide the policy should be stopped by whatever means necessary.

I did think it was pretty bold to respond to a post that identified your preferred resolution as lawless authoritarianism by essentially saying “self determination be damned, if they don’t vote my way.”

No, I'm not in favor of abortion; it's a barbaric practice that I don't have an answer to except that it be referred to the states as currently exists. If a life-saving procedure is needed by the mother and denied due to shite law, that law should be challenged. No reassignment surgery needed.

Same for screwing with the minds, bodies of minors by ideologically and physically putting them at unnecessary risk by the state even to the point of keeping parents in the dark or threatening to separate them; it's unconscionable and should also be challenged. We should control our border, know who's coming in and whether they provide a net positive or negative to American society. We don't have to care and only concentrate on one thing; I can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Here's some more bold, reiterated in bold: "I think Federal court is the proper place to sort it." and "I like that as a republic, the two are set against each other in reaching resolution to resolve and respect those things."

If that's lawless authoritarianism, it explains your characterizing J6 as an insurrection (if you were).

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

DOGE appears to discover $2B with a B grant to a Stacey Abrams linked group. They are doing the peoples work for the greater good.

DOGE didnt discover it. It was widely publicized as part of the IRA spending and the EPA even pointed it out before DOGE. Abrams was "legal counsel" to one of the companies under this umbrella.

Completely worthless and wasteful spending for sure but added additional context...