President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[luthervol]

Probably because of those hookers that were proven to have pee-pee’d all over his chest.

So you do not view trump as pro-Putin?

 

[RockyTop85]

It's strange to me that many posters on here find that to be such an abhorrent position.

Not abhorrent, but it is strange to me that there are so many here that care about laws in individual states in which they don’t live, but then don’t care about the outcome of that war.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

OH, he's going to demand $250 Billion. What if you don't get it little Dictator?

If we won't give it, the European will loan it to him.

But Trump is wrong here.

 

[Ritzwatch]

So you do not view trump as pro-Putin?

???????????

WHAT????????????????

I never said such a thing.

Where would you ever get such an idea???????????????????????????????????

 

[luthervol]

Ah, the Luther trademark “??????,” a sure sign he is in over his head.

I guess you never said anyone “should,” you just assumed it:


@McDad, I think you have the word for this.

I'm adding you into the group of posters with some serious reading comprehension issues.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Yup! see ya NATO! Bye-bye UN! This should have been done long ago. Let them fully fund their own defense, which will require them diverting money away from their welfare states and green energy obsession.

The UN building should have TRUMP in 30 foot tall letters on the top.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[Ritzwatch]

I'm adding you into the group of posters with some serious reading comprehension issues.

You had to have been a public school teacher.

No other profession is so confident in how right they are, and how much smarter and more clever they are than others, while also being so consistently wrong.

Well, excepting maybe the lawyers.

 

[Orange_Crush]

So you do not view trump as pro-Putin?

No.

 

[luthervol]

The UN building should have TRUMP in 30 foot tall letters on the top.

Only if they are overlayed in pure gold.

 

[DC_Vol]

lol....bo back and read some of that thread. There were many poster who constantly blasted Volgr and Ras who are now far more forgiving of Putin and negative toward Zelensky/Ukraine.

It is obvious to me, but no biggie. Just an interesting observation.

If anyone wishes to choose to believe that people have not changed their opinions in the least, so be it.

If you choose to believe that opinions have changed, then the questions become: how much? whose? when? why?

I believe you need to be able to separate morality and reality. And be as emotionally detached as possible.

Putin is a bad hombre. He’s sent a million young men to their death to capture very little territory. It seems he’s prepared to keep going.

Ukraine has lost territory, about half as many of their people, and have a country that is in ruins. Things are not going to get better for them from here.

We are borrowing money to fund this stalemate with no end in sight. At some point, you have got to accept this reality. If it can he brought to an end, you’ve got to get everyone to the table to talk about it. Putin is going to get some of what he wanted. It’s the way of war. It’s not right and it’s not pretty, but that is reality.

 

[luthervol]

I believe you need to be able to separate morality and reality. And be as emotionally detached as possible.

Putin is a bad hombre. He’s sent a million young men to their death to capture very little territory. It seems he’s prepared to keep going.

Ukraine has lost territory, about half as many of their people, and have a country that is in ruins. Things are not going to get better for them from here.

We are borrowing money to fund this stalemate with no end in sight. At some point, you have got to accept this reality. If it can he brought to an end, you’ve got to get everyone to the table to talk about it. Putin is going to get some of what he wanted. It’s the way of war. It’s not right and it’s not pretty, but that is reality.

I agree with pretty much everything you said.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

Destroying our standing in the world.

Our position in the world the past 4 years has been laying on our back and letting ever country p$ss in our mouth and telling them how good it is.

 

[825VOL]

I believe you need to be able to separate morality and reality. And be as emotionally detached as possible.

Putin is a bad hombre. He’s sent a million young men to their death to capture very little territory. It seems he’s prepared to keep going.

Ukraine has lost territory, about half as many of their people, and have a country that is in ruins. Things are not going to get better for them from here.

We are borrowing money to fund this stalemate with no end in sight. At some point, you have got to accept this reality. If it can he brought to an end, you’ve got to get everyone to the table to talk about it. Putin is going to get some of what he wanted. It’s the way of war. It’s not right and it’s not pretty, but that is reality.

You left out one important thing. You can't get him to the negotiating table by calling him despicable, horrible, or nasty names like some want our President to do. You keep it diplomatic, keep it out of the press, and negotiate face to face. Apparently, that is what Trump is trying to do and of course he is getting labeled as Putin's puppet for it.

 

[Orange_Crush]

You left out one important thing. You can't get him to the negotiating table by calling him despicable, horrible, or nasty names like some want our President to do. You keep it diplomatic, keep it out of the press, and negotiate face to face. Apparently, that is what Trump is trying to do and of course he is getting labeled as Putin's puppet for it.

Congress, the DOJ and the MSM perjured themselves to create the TrumPutin lie and now that it's been debunked, some people still can't find reality with a compass.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I'm talking about a desire/policy to increase the divide......policies, actions, comments meant specifically to divide.
That was never the goal with the pre-trump othering.

It's what you race baiting leftists want. Division. Keep them in the plantation

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

It's true. And I am confident many in the GOP secretly agree with me. They are just afraid to say so.

When the tide turns --and it will-- the backlash is going to be thunderous.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

trump and team can support Russia over Ukraine. It's been amazing to see how easily he has moved his followers.

How much money or weapons has he sent to Russia?

 

[luthervol]

How much money or weapons has he sent to Russia?

None.
1. They have not needed our weapons or money.
2. trump has yet to complete the gaslighting of his followers to the point where they would support it.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

How would you know what that's like?

Why would someone feel guilty about changing their opinion?

 

[DC_Vol]

I agree with pretty much everything you said.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Trump is, and always has been, pro Putin. The question is why.

Good Lord. Get some counseling

 

[Orangeburst]

Good Lord. Get some counseling

Troll

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Only if they are overlayed in pure gold.

That goes without saying. He can buy them all coach tickets on Emirates to go back to Brussels

 

[MOOOOONEY]

None.
1. They have not needed our weapons or money.
2. trump has yet to complete the gaslighting of his followers to the point where they would support it.

How is he supporting Russia and Putin?

We ,as a country, are not in a position to keep sending billions of dollars to Ukraine or any other country including Israel.

Are you advocating for American boots on the ground in Ukraine? That’s the only way Ukraine can when the war.

If Europe or other countries want to continue funding the war they can but we should be out.