President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[DC_Vol]

Good Lord. Get some counseling

He had probably forgotten Trump armed the Ukrainians long before the 2022 outbreak of the current war.

Also probably forgot that in 2012 Romney and republicans in general were mercilessly mocked for labeling Putin a threat. “The 80’s called and wants their foreign policy back.”

Also probably forgot Obama coddling Putin’s ballsack. He and the Clinton state department pushed a massive reset with Russia. Remember, “Please tell Vladimir I will babe more flexibility after the election.”

 

[luthervol]

How would you know what that's like?

Changing my opinion?
I'm always willing to change/modify my opinions.

 

[McDad]

It's highly doubtful.
Here are a few questions:
Do you believe that any opinions have changed regarding Zelensky/Putin and the war in Ukraine?
What % of people do you BELIEVE have not changed their opinions at all?
What % of people do you BELIEVE have changed their opinions a little bit?
What % of people do you BELIEVE have changed their opinions a good bit?

Who do you BELIEVE has most likely changed their opinions the most? trump supporters or anti-trumpers?
Or do you BELIEVE they have changed their opinions pretty much exactly the same?

Feel free to view them all as rhetorical questions?

Yes
No idea x 5.

 

[luthervol]

How is he supporting Russia and Putin?

We ,as a country, are not in a position to keep sending billions of dollars to Ukraine or any other country including Israel.

Are you advocating for American boots on the ground in Ukraine? That’s the only way Ukraine can when the war.

If Europe or other countries want to continue funding the war they can but we should be out.

Is trump wanting to stop sending billions to Israel?

 

[McDad]

Ah, the Luther trademark “??????,” a sure sign he is in over his head.

I guess you never said anyone “should,” you just assumed it:


@McDad, I think you have the word for this.

I have several. The one you and I recently used fits perfectly.

 

[McDad]

Trump is, and always has been, pro Putin. The question is why.

I thought he was pro pane and propane accessories

 

[luthervol]

Yes
No idea x 5.

That's no fun.

 

[McDad]

Is trump wanting to stop sending billions to Israel?

I certainly hope so.

 

[McDad]

That's no fun.

Now you know how I feel.

 

[volinbham]

Trump is, and always has been, pro Putin. The question is why.

support for Nordstream 2, LNG exports to Europe, military materials for Ukraine (all in first term) were distinctly anti-Putin but those always get ignored.

 

[Orangeburst]

support for Nordstream 2, LNG exports to Europe, military materials for Ukraine (all in first term) were distinctly anti-Putin but those always get ignored.

Or whacking hundreds of Wagner

 

[DC_Vol]

support for Nordstream 2, LNG exports to Europe, military materials for Ukraine (all in first term) were distinctly anti-Putin but those always get ignored.

LG has the worst instincts

 

[McDad]

support for Nordstream 2, LNG exports to Europe, military materials for Ukraine (all in first term) were distinctly anti-Putin but those always get ignored.

No man. You can trust an Independent's view on it. He's objective now.

 

[volfanhill]

I believe you need to be able to separate morality and reality. And be as emotionally detached as possible.

Putin is a bad hombre. He’s sent a million young men to their death to capture very little territory. It seems he’s prepared to keep going.

Ukraine has lost territory, about half as many of their people, and have a country that is in ruins. Things are not going to get better for them from here.

We are borrowing money to fund this stalemate with no end in sight. At some point, you have got to accept this reality. If it can he brought to an end, you’ve got to get everyone to the table to talk about it. Putin is going to get some of what he wanted. It’s the way of war. It’s not right and it’s not pretty, but that is reality.

Well said.

 

[luthervol]

I certainly hope so.

Glad to see you voice an opinion beyond "no idea".

 

[McDad]

Glad to see you voice an opinion beyond "no idea".

Big people talk about ideas.
Little people talk about other people.

You want opinions on ideas, great. You opinions on other people, no interest.

 

[luthervol]

Now you know how I feel.

Disappointed in others ability or willingness to think?
I get that feeling frequently.

 

[McDad]

Disappointed in others ability or willingness to think?
I get that feeling frequently.

Ok, Farkas.

 

[volinbham]

Big people talk about ideas.
Little people talk about other people.

You want opinions on ideas, great. You opinions on other people, no interest.

 

[luthervol]

lol......didn't have to look far for those.

I have several. The one you and I recently used fits perfectly.

No man. You can trust an Independent's view on it. He's objective now.

Big people talk about ideas.
Little people talk about other people.

You want opinions on ideas, great. You opinions on other people, no interest.

 

[luthervol]

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lol.....
If that's McDad accidently hitting himself in the nuts.......then it's perfect.

 

[McDad]

lol.....
If that's McDad accidently hitting himself in the nuts.......then it's perfect.

Another tough day for you, Farkas.

Maybe you'll have a better day tomorrow.

 

[C-south]

None.
1. They have not needed our weapons or money.
2. trump has yet to complete the gaslighting of his followers to the point where they would support it.

It’s weird you’re outraged over this yet dims actually supply terrorists and cartels with weapons and money and you are not.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

BREAKING NEWS: Trump Shocks As He Makes Huge Concession To Russia: 'Putin's on the inside now'​

Donald Trump has signaled both publicly and privately that he no longer considers Russia a major cyber threat to US national security and critical infrastructure.

The shift, which starkly contradicts years of warnings from intelligence officials, has raised alarm among cybersecurity experts who fear that the United States is leaving itself exposed to Russian cyberattacks just as global tensions reach boiling point.

On Sunday night, it was reported that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered US Cyber Command to cease all offensive cyberoperations against Russia.

Critics warn that the policy reversal appears to be driven by the administration's warming relations with Russian President Vladimir Putin, as Trump moves to realign U.S. foreign policy in a way that increasingly mirrors Moscow's interests.

Trump makes huge concession to Russia: 'Putin's on the inside now'

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has ordered US Cyber Command to halt offensive cyberoperations against Russia, a move possibly aimed at drawing Vladimir Putin into negotiations over Ukraine.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[MOOOOONEY]

Is trump wanting to stop sending billions to Israel?

He should.