President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[Orange_Crush]

BREAKING NEWS: Trump Shocks As He Makes Huge Concession To Russia: 'Putin's on the inside now'​

Donald Trump has signaled both publicly and privately that he no longer considers Russia a major cyber threat to US national security and critical infrastructure.

The shift, which starkly contradicts years of warnings from intelligence officials, has raised alarm among cybersecurity experts who fear that the United States is leaving itself exposed to Russian cyberattacks just as global tensions reach boiling point.

On Sunday night, it was reported that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered US Cyber Command to cease all offensive cyberoperations against Russia.

Critics warn that the policy reversal appears to be driven by the administration's warming relations with Russian President Vladimir Putin, as Trump moves to realign U.S. foreign policy in a way that increasingly mirrors Moscow's interests.

Trump makes huge concession to Russia: 'Putin's on the inside now'

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has ordered US Cyber Command to halt offensive cyberoperations against Russia, a move possibly aimed at drawing Vladimir Putin into negotiations over Ukraine.

www.dailymail.co.uk

He called off US offensive attacks against one of the nations that we're trying to act as mediators with, in order to end a war?

Well, clutch my pearls.

How would you like to go through arbitration with your mediator being the guy who's been trying to break in an burgle your house?

(Is there any indication that he's halted Cyber Blue Team activities?)

 

[BeardedVol]

He called off US offensive attacks against one of the nations that we're trying to act as mediators with, in order to end a war?

Well, clutch my pearls.

How would you like to go through arbitration with your mediator being the guy who's been trying to break in an burgle your house?

(Is there any indication that he's halted Cyber Blue Team activities?)

I'm sure Russia has suspended cyber operations against the US in response to Hegseth's unilateral move.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Not long ago someone called for us to release a list of all our Eastern European operatives. Do you mean that kind of pro-Putin?

Well, according to the people in Ukraine thread for years they denied we with the neocons were involved in CIA coup activity in the Ukraine. As soon as I said that, all of sudden everyone is worried about CIA operations and us paying for overthrowing governments. The same thing is happening in the Baltic States - RIGHT NOW.

Maybe don't be evil and don't use my money for your evil.

The people overthrowing or attempting to in the Ukraine or Russia or Romania aren't my friends, they can **** off. If you believe in all that horseshit go sign up because you are causing it. Maybe you should see the destruction that is being caused by it.

Join the Brave

I would say the same thing about countries doing it here i.e. China.

You appear to be pro-Satan, see its really easy isn't it?

 

[Orange_Crush]

You know I get the move on the cyber side..what I don't get is f##king telling everyone. Thats retarded (no offense people w/downs).

I wonder who "Multiple US officials" refers to...?

If it was done for diplomatic reasons, they may need to do it through "leaks" because you don't want to go to Russia and say, "Hey, we've been hacking you guys but promise to stop". Cyber-Attacks are kind of the like the elephant in the room that everyone sees and walks around, but no one will acknowledge.

If we went and said, "Been hacking you; stopped", there's no way to not acknowledge. If there un an unnamed "leak", we can let Russia know while also preserving the elephant in the room.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I'm sure Russia has suspended cyber operations against the US in response to Hegseth's unilateral move.

I really can't say. I'm just offering options that aren't 'Manchurian Candidate' conspiracy theories. You're welcome clutch your blue font pearls.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Zelensky did a good job playing the villain in the movie "Behind Enemy Lines". . .

 

[n_huffhines]

Of course they lied. Fkn idiots.

Inflate! Inflate! Inflate!

 

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[EasternVol]

Were they advocating that to aid Putin or were they motivated by something else? (As an example, to inhibit America meddling in other countries).

The result would be aid to Putin regardless of the motivation. At any rate calling for us to betray our assets so they could be liquidated was a ridiculous statement. If the intent was to inhibit our meddling then the call should be for the assets to be stood down.

 

[EasternVol]

Well, according to the people in Ukraine thread for years they denied we with the neocons were involved in CIA coup activity in the Ukraine. As soon as I said that, all of sudden everyone is worried about CIA operations and us paying for overthrowing governments. The same thing is happening in the Baltic States - RIGHT NOW.

Maybe don't be evil and don't use my money for your evil.

The people overthrowing or attempting to in the Ukraine or Russia or Romania aren't my friends, they can **** off. If you believe in all that horseshit go sign up because you are causing it. Maybe you should see the destruction that is being caused by it.

Join the Brave

I would say the same thing about countries doing it here i.e. China.

You appear to be pro-Satan, see its really easy isn't it?

Apparently not for you.

 

[McDad]

The result would be aid to Putin regardless of the motivation. At any rate calling for us to betray our assets so they could be liquidated was a ridiculous statement. If the intent was to inhibit our meddling then the call should be for the assets to be stood down.

That's a very good point. Especially agree with the last statement Not having seen the post you're referencing, I'll take your word for the interpretation.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Apparently not for you.

Look, you can hide behind it wasn't you, but it was you it was all of us that created this.... I just admit it. If someone is using my fictional dollars to create evil and to set people up to kill one another, I would like to think if its in my control to at least expose them... heck, that's almost nothing. The U.S. will probably never admit what we did in full, I get that on some levels but we're currently doing it in places today that can be saved i.e. Baltic nations.

I would suggest people sign up or go visit and see what they themselves have created if they feel differently.

 

[BeardedVol]

Look, you can hide behind it wasn't you, but it was you it was all of us that created this.... I just admit it. If someone is using my fictional dollars to create evil and to set people up to kill one another, I would like to think if its in my control to at least expose them... heck, that's almost nothing. The U.S. will probably never admit what we did in full, I get that on some levels but we're currently doing it in places today that can be saved i.e. Baltic nations.

I would suggest people sign up or go visit and see what they themselves have created if they feel differently.

Just look at all those CIA agents; despicable!

 

[LSU-SIU]

That's a very good point. Especially agree with the last statement Not having seen the post you're referencing, I'll take your word for the interpretation.

They all claimed for years in the Ukrainian thread that the U.S. wasn't overthrowing or causing chaos in the Ukraine as the Russians said was going on. I said, well cool... let's tell all the Ukrainians about the foreign assets being used in the Ukraine, since there are none there. The same ones that were worried about the foreign assets being exposed are now worried the foreign assets will be exposed.

The Orange man already knows, as the Secretary of Defense knows, etc.

"It's complicated"

Not really, they know, the discussion with the Ukraine and Russia would become complicated.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Appears ole Joe had the same experience with Zelenskyy. I guess he sided with Putin as well??

Did Biden’s furious call with Zelensky set the stage for Trump’s massive Oval Office showdown? All details

US President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky had a massive showdown in the Oval Office on Friday, sending ripples in the global politics. But Biden also had a spat with Zelenskyy three years back. Biden lost his tempter and shouted at Ukrainian President Volodymyr...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

 

[LouderVol]

They all claimed for years in the Ukrainian thread that the U.S. wasn't overthrowing or causing chaos in the Ukraine as the Russians said was going on. I said, well cool... let's tell all the Ukrainians about the foreign assets being used in the Ukraine, since there are none there. The same ones that were worried about the foreign assets being exposed are now worried the foreign assets will be exposed.

The Orange man already knows, as the Secretary of Defense knows, etc.

"It's complicated"

Not really, they know, the discussion with the Ukraine and Russia would become complicated.

you are making a false assumption. just because the CIA has ASSETS there doesn't mean they were involved in a mythical coup. every major nation had assets there, doesn't mean everyone was involved.

especially when your side ignores the Russian agents who were also in country at the time. its always the double standard with you guys. Nuland giving out cookies = America involved in a coup. Russian military rescuing the "victim" of the "coup" with less than 12hr notice = Russia not involved in the slightest.

the only real complaint you have is Russia's coup blew up in their face. It blew up because Russia pushed too hard, and they had to get blatant with it. after their coup failed, the pendulum swung back to the west, so you assume the only force was the one pushing it to the west. you just ignore everything that happens before your preformed conclusion as having no impact.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

When being an intermediary, I would think the last thing you would do is go in and discredit (in any way) the other party.

Everyone chill out about Trumps infatuation with Russia. It does not exist.

 

[LSU-SIU]

you are making a false assumption. just because the CIA has ASSETS there doesn't mean they were involved in a mythical coup. every major nation had assets there, doesn't mean everyone was involved.

What you are admitting to is against the treaty, which is why they say its "complicated". They didn't even need to be involved in the coup, although they were. You are claiming innocence while at the same time admitting guilt. So, if we are friends we would be admitting to having assets there, if they were involved in the coup.... in my eyes they should be disclosed. Either way, they never were our friends.

The reason why the U.N. Security Council stance was neutral was because the U.S. told all the countries how they were involved, just as a reminder.

I would say most of this is not material at this stage, just responding to the comment that was vaguely responding to my past comment.

 

[LouderVol]

What you are admitting to is against the treaty, which is why they say its "complicated". They didn't even need to be involved in the coup, although they were. You are claiming innocence while at the same time admitting guilt. So, if we are friends we would be admitting to having assets there, if they were involved in the coup.... in my eyes they should be disclosed. Either way, they never were our friends.

The reason why the U.N. Security Council stance was neutral was because the U.S. told all the countries how they were involved, just as a reminder.

I would say most of this is not material at this stage, just responding to the comment that was vaguely responding to my past comment.

It's not against the treaty to have spies there. Once again you are just making up stuff.

And you continue to ignore Russia would have also been just as guilty as US IF that clause existed.

You can't play at being objective when you repeatedly ignore one side of the situation. It's easy to say someone is in the wrong when you ignore all context and make up impossible onesided standards.

 

[LSU-SIU]

It's not against the treaty to have spies there. Once again you are just making up stuff.

And you continue to ignore Russia would have also been just as guilty as US IF that clause existed.

You can't play at being objective when you repeatedly ignore one side of the situation. It's easy to say someone is in the wrong when you ignore all context and make up impossible onesided standards.

They all agreed to respect the sovereignty of the country, see Treaty numbered paragraph 1.

And you continue to ignore Russia would have also been just as guilty as US IF that clause existed.

Probably at this point, but you admitted to it. Personally, I don't care as an American but the Russians didn't admit to it.

You can't play at being objective when you repeatedly ignore one side of the situation.

Well, you just admitted to it, and instead of admitting it was wrong... you go on another rant.

 

[Orangeslice13]

He had probably forgotten Trump armed the Ukrainians long before the 2022 outbreak of the current war.

Also probably forgot that in 2012 Romney and republicans in general were mercilessly mocked for labeling Putin a threat. “The 80’s called and wants their foreign policy back.”

Also probably forgot Obama coddling Putin’s ballsack. He and the Clinton state department pushed a massive reset with Russia. Remember, “Please tell Vladimir I will babe more flexibility after the election.”

Reality doesn’t check with their narrative

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

European Defense stocks have jumped today which indicates Europeans are expecting more skin in the game from the motherland.

It is strongly believed the Ukrainian/US deal will still be done as a foretell of a peace agreement with Russia.

Another Trump Dub!!

 

[LouderVol]

They all agreed to respect the sovereignty of the country, see Treaty numbered paragraph 1.



Probably at this point, but you admitted to it. Personally, I don't care as an American but the Russians didn't admit to it.



Well, you just admitted to it, and instead of admitting it was wrong... you go on another rant.

Having spies or assets in a nation isn't disrespecting the sovereignty of a nation. It's got other implications, but nothing to do with sovereignty and nothing to do with the treaty.