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[DonjoVol]

I've done all of the above. Slicing meat and cheese is not a skill (I worked in a bagel shop in college). I waited tables for a couple years as well. Yes there are tasks to complete but they are not really skills

You really have an issue with reading comprehension skills. I mentioned that you have to be 18 years of age to operate a slicer. Which means you cannot just hire someone 15 or 16 years old to do just any food service or hospitality job. That is what Deeble was claiming which means they were showing their ignorance on this topic.

It takes skills to do any job out there. I do not know why this is a controversial statement and why people want to go out of their way demean groups of people. As a matter of fact why don't you go work in the restaurant industry now and let us know how easy it is for you.

 

[hog88]

Watched one near by go for 1mil in 2 days and another was 1.6 in 3 days. Based on comps we could make another 200k on the house we just finished in Nov. If it hits it will go fast and hurt those caught up in it

We keep debating on whether to take the gamble and sell then wait it out but where do you go until then. Even a decent 2 bdr apartment around here is $1500+ per month.

 

[Vol423]

We keep debating on whether to take the gamble and sell then wait it out but where do you go until then. Even a decent 2 bdr apartment around here is $1500+ per month.

I don't think you want to sell without having another house lined up. What I have heard of people doing recently is purchasing their new house before they list their current house (Because of the risk of not being able to find a new house. Selling the current house is a piece of cake right now). Of course, that requires very strong financial footing to pull off.

 

[hog88]

Same here in Memphis right now too.

This just can’t continue though. Going to have to be some type of correction.

I see no way the housing market skates when recession hits.

Memphis has some major problems right now in the housing market. My wife was ranting about it last night. Right now the courts aren't hearing eviction or foreclosure cases but from a couple of "preferred" attorneys and the city is about to be hit with a lawsuit from a few management and mortgage firms. They have also "lost" 10s of million of dollars in garnishments.

 

[Vol423]

You really have an issue with reading comprehension skills. I mentioned that you have to be 18 years of age to operate a slicer. Which means you cannot just hire someone 15 or 16 years old to do just any food service or hospitality job. That is what Deeble was claiming which means they were showing their ignorance on this topic.

It takes skills to do any job out there. I do not know why this is a controversial statement and why people want to go out of their way demean groups of people. As a matter of fact why don't you go work in the restaurant industry now and let us know how easy it is for you.

...and there it is. He's a broken record. Many, if not most of us have worked in the restaurant industry when we were young. Working in the restaurant industry is a job, not a career. Many of us moved on to bigger and better things. We're not going to go back to the restaurant industry because that industry generally involves crappy hours for crappy pay. We don't look down on people because they work in the restaurant industry. We did so ourselves. However, calling unskilled workers unskilled is not demeaning. It's just factual.

 

[85SugarVol]

We keep debating on whether to take the gamble and sell then wait it out but where do you go until then. Even a decent 2 bdr apartment around here is $1500+ per month.

I have some low income duplex properties. Bought them for the cash flow, but they are up ~150% in the last 3 years.

Guy at my property mgmt company trying to get me to sell.

Him: Sell 1 and buy 3 more.
Me: Do you have 3 more to buy?
Him: Well, no…

 

[85SugarVol]

Memphis has some major problems.

Fixed

 

[DonjoVol]

...and there it is. He's a broken record. Many, if not most of us have worked in the restaurant industry when we were young. Working in the restaurant industry is a job, not a career. Many of us moved on to bigger and better things. We're not going to go back to the restaurant industry because that industry generally involves crappy hours for crappy pay. We don't look down on people because they work in the restaurant industry. We did so ourselves. However, calling unskilled workers unskilled is not demeaning. It's just factual.

They are not unskilled. Too many people in this country depend on the restaurant industry to feed them daily. Many people, sadly, cannot go one day without eating at a restaurant. All jobs and professions require skills. Some jobs and professions require educational requirements. You and others are simply saying that if a job does not require education then it is not skilled. That is false. When people stop depending on restaurants, hotels, grocery stores, cruise lines and other industries so much then I might agree that these jobs are unskilled. For now they are skilled, necessary, and essential for our society and economy to function.

 

[hog88]

I don't think you want to sell without having another house lined up. What I have heard of people doing recently is purchasing their new house before they list their current house (Because of the risk of not being able to find a new house. Selling the current house is a piece of cake right now). Of course, that requires very strong financial footing to pull off.

I'm betting on a crash or at least a big dip. Buying anything now is just buying at the top of the market.

 

[Vol423]

I'm betting on a crash or at least a big dip. Buying anything now is just buying at the top of the market.

I hope it works out for you, but I'll warn you that I think you're wrong. Inventory is so low right now and demand is so high that the only thing a recession will do is bring the real estate market back into balance (significantly slow down the rate of price appreciation but not crash the market).

 

[DonjoVol]

...and there it is. He's a broken record. Many, if not most of us have worked in the restaurant industry when we were young. Working in the restaurant industry is a job, not a career. Many of us moved on to bigger and better things. We're not going to go back to the restaurant industry because that industry generally involves crappy hours for crappy pay. We don't look down on people because they work in the restaurant industry. We did so ourselves. However, calling unskilled workers unskilled is not demeaning. It's just factual.

Also, keep in mind I did not bring up this topic today. Someone else did in their argument for vaccine mandates. So don't blame me this time. Blame Ricky.

 

[Vol423]

They are not unskilled. Too many people in this country depend on the restaurant industry to feed them daily. Many people, sadly, cannot go one day without eating at a restaurant. All jobs and professions require skills. Some jobs and professions require educational requirements. You and others are simply saying that if a job does not require education then it is not skilled. That is false. When people stop depending on restaurants, hotels, grocery stores, cruise lines and other industries so much then I might agree that these jobs are unskilled. For now they are skilled, necessary, and essential for our society and economy to function.

I'm not going back through this again. You're wrong. Everybody in these threads that has a clue knows that you're wrong. Restaurant workers are unskilled. You have this huge chip on your shoulder. You think the term "unskilled labor" is a pejorative term, but it isn't. It's just a fact. If the restaurant industry weren't needed, then it wouldn't exist. That doesn't mean that anybody working in the industry is skilled labor.

 

[hog88]

I hope it works out for you, but I'll warn you that I think you're wrong. Inventory is so low right now and demand is so high that the only thing a recession will do is bring the real estate market back into balance (significantly slow down the rate of price appreciation but not crash the market).

That's a good possibility, 2007-09 the middle TN market was hit but not that bad. The higher end homes, ones selling in the high 6 figure/low 7 figure range took the biggest hit and that is what we'd be gambling on if we did it.

 

[TheDeeble]

You really have an issue with reading comprehension skills. I mentioned that you have to be 18 years of age to operate a slicer. Which means you cannot just hire someone 15 or 16 years old to do just any food service or hospitality job. That is what Deeble was claiming which means they were showing their ignorance on this topic.

It takes skills to do any job out there. I do not know why this is a controversial statement and why people want to go out of their way demean groups of people. As a matter of fact why don't you go work in the restaurant industry now and let us know how easy it is for you.

Look man, I'm not talking about every specific job in a service industry. Busboy? Hostess? Sandwich maker at a sub shop? My friends in high school had these jobs. I worked at a grocery stocking shelves. It is unskilled work. Age requirements don't change that. If you have to be 18 to slice meet it's still not a skill that is required. It might be something you can learn, but it's not something you go to school for that requires a certification or education does it?

I'm not sure where you getting that anyone is being demeaned.

 

[Vol423]

Also, keep in mind I did not bring up this topic today. Someone else did in their argument for vaccine mandates. So don't blame me this time. Blame Ricky.

I haven't dug back to the beginning of this particular conversation to see how it started. What I do know, however, is that the chip you have on your shoulder seems to force you to try to rehash this argument every few weeks (whether you bring the subject up or someone else does).

 

[85SugarVol]

I'm betting on a crash or at least a big dip. Buying anything now is just buying at the top of the market.

There are so many balls in the air right now. If just one of them falls, it’s going to have a knock-on effect.

 

[C-south]

They are not unskilled. Too many people in this country depend on the restaurant industry to feed them daily. Many people, sadly, cannot go one day without eating at a restaurant. All jobs and professions require skills. Some jobs and professions require educational requirements. You and others are simply saying that if a job does not require education then it is not skilled. That is false. When people stop depending on restaurants, hotels, grocery stores, cruise lines and other industries so much then I might agree that these jobs are unskilled. For now they are skilled, necessary, and essential for our society and economy to function.

Nobody depends on restaurants to feed them. A restaurant is just a more convenient way to eat and in no way a necessity. Not sure why you’re lumping all the other unrelated business in with restaurants unless it’s to show they all have a lot of unskilled labor.

 

[DonjoVol]

I'm not going back through this again. You're wrong. Everybody in these threads that has a clue knows that you're wrong. Restaurant workers are unskilled. You have this huge chip on your shoulder. You think the term "unskilled labor" is a pejorative term, but it isn't. It's just a fact. If the restaurant industry weren't needed, then it wouldn't exist. That doesn't mean that anybody working in the industry is skilled labor.

If they are unskilled then you and others can stop depending on them so much in your daily and weekly lives. Or maybe you can be thankful when skilled workers make food for you to enjoy.

 

[C-south]

If they are unskilled then you and others can stop depending on them so much in your daily and weekly lives. Or maybe you can be thankful when skilled workers make food for you to enjoy.

If anyone is truly depending on unskilled workers to feed them daily then they are unskilled themselves.

 

[utvolpj]

You really have an issue with reading comprehension skills. I mentioned that you have to be 18 years of age to operate a slicer. Which means you cannot just hire someone 15 or 16 years old to do just any food service or hospitality job. That is what Deeble was claiming which means they were showing their ignorance on this topic.

It takes skills to do any job out there. I do not know why this is a controversial statement and why people want to go out of their way demean groups of people. As a matter of fact why don't you go work in the restaurant industry now and let us know how easy it is for you.

If you read my post you would see that I did work in a restaurant. I served in one of the busiest restaurants in the country on football game days in the late 90s.

You confuse the ability to complete basic tasks with having a skill. Some are better than others but honestly that usually follows an intelligence curve

 

[utvolpj]

We keep debating on whether to take the gamble and sell then wait it out but where do you go until then. Even a decent 2 bdr apartment around here is $1500+ per month.

We says the same 2yrs ago. Glad we just sold and built a new one

 

[DonjoVol]

I haven't dug back to the beginning of this particular conversation to see how it started. What I do know, however, is that the chip you have on your shoulder seems to force you to try to rehash this argument every few weeks (whether you bring the subject up or someone else does).

And the chip you and others have on your shoulder to continue this asinine "unskilled" worker argument is jut downright ridiculous at this point. You even admitted yourself it was hard work so it must be skilled.

By the way I have not had this conversation with you guys about this in months. You do not want it brought up then you tell others not to do so. Then only people that have the chip on their shoulders are the ones going out of their way to determine who is "unskilled". Why? Because they need a reason to see people as beneath them.

Last but not least. The Republican Party and conservatism is appealing more towards working people. You guys really are making yourselves look bad when you go back and forth with these silly arguments. How about we respect and appreciate everybody for the job they are doing - as long as its legal and contributes to our society and economy.

 

[DonjoVol]

If anyone is truly depending on unskilled workers to feed them daily then they are unskilled themselves.

Happens a lot more than you realize.

 

[DonjoVol]

If you read my post you would see that I did work in a restaurant. I served in one of the busiest restaurants in the country on football game days in the late 90s.

You confuse the ability to complete basic tasks with having a skill. Some are better than others but honestly that usually follows an intelligence curve

Yes I saw that you worked in a restaurant before. All the more reason for you to appreciate the skills involved in working in that industry. That should also be a trait of conservatism. Appreciating the skills that every worker in this country brings to the table. But I take it you are not a conservative. So I guess you can go enjoy the democrat party and your flawed man Biden.

 

[hog88]

We says the same 2yrs ago. Glad we just sold and built a new one

What did you do while the new one was being built?