President Joe Biden - Kamala Harris Administration

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tnmarktx said:
I'll ask in a different way. I believe Joe Biden will go down as one of the most hated Presidents because he's advocating the firing of people that won't take the covid vaccine, ignoring our sovereign borders, and the Afghan debacle. What president will be hated more and for what specific reason? Listing the examples of what they specifically did to garner such hatred.
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I've said they likely won't go down that way but they should if people are objective. In your example, Biden should be ranked way higher than Bush or Obama on Afg since we're out. Look at what Reagan did to the illegals. How many have addressed real immigration reform? You keep ignoring the rules his predecessors played in this absolute mess

dovervolz said:
PJ is has got to be one of the better dancers in this forum. Because he/ she is dancing all around to prevent from answering the question. Which president is responsible for slavery? And which one is responsible for " genocide?
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I've answered it about a half dozen times. Allowing something so repugnant to exist and flourish under their watch makes them just as responsible. I've never made the claim that someone mandated it so quit believing those posts and read for yourself
 
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whodeycin85 said:
I think trying to apply morals from todays society to a time 50+ years ago is moronic... especially considering the complete lack or morality happening in society today
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Yeah it's moronic to compare the buying and selling of people like cattle to allowing people to be who they want without judgement.
 
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utvolpj said:
I've said they likely won't go down that way but they should if people are objective. In your example, Biden should be ranked way higher than Bush or Obama on Afg since we're out. Look at what Reagan did to the illegals. How many have addressed real immigration reform? You keep ignoring the rules his predecessors played in this absolute mess


I've answered it about a half dozen times. Allowing something so repugnant to exist and flourish under their watch makes them just as responsible. I've never made the claim that someone mandated it so quit believing those posts and read for yourself
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I am reading for myself. And I have not
seen a post where you have named named a single former. US president that's responsible for slavery. If you have, show me.
 
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utvolpj said:
I've said they likely won't go down that way but they should if people are objective. In your example, Biden should be ranked way higher than Bush or Obama on Afg since we're out. Look at what Reagan did to the illegals. How many have addressed real immigration reform? You keep ignoring the rules his predecessors played in this absolute mess


I've answered it about a half dozen times. Allowing something so repugnant to exist and flourish under their watch makes them just as responsible. I've never made the claim that someone mandated it so quit believing those posts and read for yourself
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IMO, advocating widespread mass firings of people that refuse to vaccinate is the worst. Also what does open borders have to do with immigration reform? Enforcing the border is the law and responsibility of the gov.
 
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dovervolz said:
I am reading for myself. And I have not
seen a post where you have named named a single former. US president that's responsible for slavery. If you have, show me.
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Are you unfamiliar with US history? Do you not believe there are some who allowed it to flourish?
 
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tnmarktx said:
IMO, advocating widespread mass firings of people that refuse to vaccinate is the worst. Also what does open borders have to do with immigration reform? Enforcing the border is the law and responsibility of the gov.
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Admins have been responsible for millions of deaths yet floating the idea that people should be fired is worse. Ok, have a good night
 
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utvolpj said:
Admins have been responsible for millions of deaths yet floating the idea that people should be fired is worse. Ok, have a good night
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If it's illegal for your to earn a living, I guess when people get desperate to feed their families they can just come take your stuff if necessary. By force if need be, right? Is that what you're advocating for?
 
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tnmarktx said:
If it's illegal for your to earn a living, I guess when people get desperate to feed their families they can just come take your stuff if necessary. By force if need be, right? Is that what you're advocating for?
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It's not going to be implemented or enforced. So yes, things that actually happened are worse than proposed policy
 
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utvolpj said:
When some potato claimed

then another said stadium chants proved it
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Probably the same people who boycotted professional sports two years ago because they don't want to hear about politics when they were trying to relax and watch a game.
 
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tnmarktx said:
It only doesn't answer questions for those that are trying to make a ridiculous argument or are a Biden apologist.
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Of course you won't since it's not happening like you claim. If these govt mandated wholesale firings at private businesses were happening wouldn't we all know it? I mean, this is the worst act in US history but didn't make the evening news?
 
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utvolpj said:
Yeah it's moronic to compare the buying and selling of people like cattle to allowing people to be who they want without judgement.
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At a time when it was an active tradr around the world, yes applying todays morality it a waste...go fight in the numerous countries that still have slavety instead of here
 
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utvolpj said:
How many have been fired due to the govt mandate that your link says hasn't been submitted yet?
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the word from the WH is that if you do any business with the Feds the mandate applies to you. Personally I think the WH is slow walking this since it can't be legally challenged until it is codified but in the mean time companies are complying with what the WH has said is policy. Some may be using it as cover; others may be doing it to CYA from the govt.
 
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utvolpj said:
Has anyone been fired from a private business due to the govt mandate that they do so? I don't care what a private business chooses to do on its own
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I know you are in an argument but are you really suggesting that no private business has implemented a mandate based on what the WH said is their policy? Put another way are you suggesting that no mandates from private business are driven by the WH policy?
 
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