President Trump's Cabinet?

[Through_The_T]

Give me a break... He should have vetted this worker he employed in his home. It is absolutely ridiculous that we are about to have a Labor Secretary who employed an undocumented Mexican worker in his own freaking home for years... and for an administration which has made building a wall to Mexico and keeping illegal immigrants out of the country who might either take low paying jobs or break the law.

Some of you really would defend Trump for ANYTHING.

I just like pointing out hypocrisy. It's quite easy to do with Regressives/Leftists, these days...

You obviously are unaware on my stance towards Trump and the border wall. Here it is, for reference:

Fascinating, the Regressives are turning on their own. Makes for a great Discovery Channel series...

In all seriousness, the wall seems like a bad idea from a budgetary and practical standpoint. It's not like folks aren't still going to get over in the non-monitored areas like they currently are. I'm a fan of the suggestions in this article:

Fixing Illegal Immigration: Five Steps | National Review

We need to stop rewarding (amnesty discussion) illegal immigration and attach some real and serious consequences to it.

 

[volinbham]

I just googled "devos and privatization". You go and pick out the articles you wish to read. There are plenty to choose from.

Do any of them have her stating her goal as DoEd Secy to privatize all of US k-12 education.

I'll hang up and listen.

 

[BowlBrother85]

We are. And I think the complaint is not indicative to his performance and abilities to do the job effectively.

like I said, domestic is a different animal

Like I said... some of you really would defend Trump for anything. This is inconsistent as hell. Puzer's hearing should be even more comical than that of DeVos.

 

[RikidyBones]

Like I said... some of you really would defend Trump for anything. This is inconsistent as hell. Puzer's hearing should be even more comical than that of DeVos.

So despite being ignorant of the process behind having a domestic worker, you're going to pound the table accusing people of "defending trump for anything"

1. This has very little to do with Trump.
2. The vetting process of domestic workers is entirely different than what you're used to. To give you an idea of that, if you even provide workers compensation for these individuals through an estate company, they aren't on the same premium basis as most other workers in the US. Most have a basis of wages and domestic has to have a separate endorsement to be counted per person. It's just a different animal.
3. Most people don't go through a hiring rigmarole because they don't have the correct resources and don't have the knowledge to find those resources.

I just don't think this is the battle worth having. Again, if he had a company like a warehouse, lawn, construction, etc. that file a w3, 1096, 1120, etc. you'd find my opinion different.

 

[Grand Vol]

Many of them are and for all of the obvious reasons (at least to those with half a brain). These same reasons are why it's detrimental in the long run.

Then public schools should be taking a look at the way private schools operate and trying to emulate it. Get rid of the bureaucratic red tape BS and start educating the youth at the levels they need to survive.

There's half the problem right there. Get government the eff out of micromanaging the education system.

 

[luthervol]

Do any of them have her stating her goal as DoEd Secy to privatize all of US k-12 education.

I'll hang up and listen.

More or less...some have learned to read between the lines.

 

[05_never_again]

Then public schools should be taking a look at the way private schools operate and trying to emulate it. Get rid of the bureaucratic red tape BS and start educating the youth at the levels they need to survive.

There's half the problem right there. Get government the eff out of micromanaging the education system.

Yes. That also means no school vouchers as well (at least in the form of direct payments to families).

School vouchers is a fake, conservative-sounding solution to a real problem.

 

[theFallGuy]

I just googled "devos and privatization". You go and pick out the articles you wish to read. There are plenty to choose from.

and literally every single news site that pops up is some left wing hack site. Motherjones? LOL

 

[Grand Vol]

Yes. That also means no school vouchers as well (at least in the form of direct payments to families).

School vouchers is a fake, conservative-sounding solution to a real problem.

I'd have no problems with school vouchers if they used it like an academic scholarship system. Maintain a certain level of GPA, attendance, extracurricular activities, etc.

I'd suspect you might agree with that kind of system.

 

[theFallGuy]

So despite being ignorant of the process behind having a domestic worker, you're going to pound the table accusing people of "defending trump for anything"

1. This has very little to do with Trump.
2. The vetting process of domestic workers is entirely different than what you're used to. To give you an idea of that, if you even provide workers compensation for these individuals through an estate company, they aren't on the same premium basis as most other workers in the US. Most have a basis of wages and domestic has to have a separate endorsement to be counted per person. It's just a different animal.
3. Most people don't go through a hiring rigmarole because they don't have the correct resources and don't have the knowledge to find those resources.

I just don't think this is the battle worth having. Again, if he had a company like a warehouse, lawn, construction, etc. that file a w3, 1096, 1120, etc. you'd find my opinion different.

I'm guessing the same amount of outrage was not brought when Obama nominated Geithner for Treasury Secretary despite him having not paid upwards of $35,000 + in taxes he owed to the IRS.

 

[BowlBrother85]

So despite being ignorant of the process behind having a domestic worker, you're going to pound the table accusing people of "defending trump for anything"

1. This has very little to do with Trump.
2. The vetting process of domestic workers is entirely different than what you're used to. To give you an idea of that, if you even provide workers compensation for these individuals through an estate company, they aren't on the same premium basis as most other workers in the US. Most have a basis of wages and domestic has to have a separate endorsement to be counted per person. It's just a different animal.
3. Most people don't go through a hiring rigmarole because they don't have the correct resources and don't have the knowledge to find those resources.

I just don't think this is the battle worth having. Again, if he had a company like a warehouse, lawn, construction, etc. that file a w3, 1096, 1120, etc. you'd find my opinion different.

I'll concede ignorance over the process of having a domestic worker. I'm divorced so I can't even include my wife in that category anymore... but as for #3, the CEO of Hardee's/Carl's Jr had the necessary resources to make sure this woman was in the country legally. He was either lazy or he didn't care... and as for #1, this has everything to do with Trump because of how much he has emphasized this very issue... keeping illegal Mexican immigrants out of the country because they are taking low paying jobs.

 

[TrueOrange]

Then public schools should be taking a look at the way private schools operate and trying to emulate it. Get rid of the bureaucratic red tape BS and start educating the youth at the levels they need to survive.

There's half the problem right there. Get government the eff out of micromanaging the education system.

So public schools need to just become private schools if I'm understanding correctly? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the biggest issues at the public level of education is the funding, isn't it?

 

[RikidyBones]

I'm guessing the same amount of outrage was not brought when Obama nominated Geithner for Treasury Secretary despite him having not paid upwards of $35,000 + in taxes he owed to the IRS.

Did he end up paying it? If so, I don't care. I'm also anti irs and pro national sales so... I'm a smidge bias on that one.

 

[05_never_again]

I'd have no problems with school vouchers if they used it like an academic scholarship system. Maintain a certain level of GPA, attendance, extracurricular activities, etc.

I'd suspect you might agree with that kind of system.

I might agree with a voucher system if it was done with tax credits instead of transfer payments. You get a tax write-off for making a donation to a private charity, and the private charity can decide for themselves the requirements for receiving the scholarship.

Based on what I have read, Devos (and most other proponents of school vouchers) like doing it with transfer payments, which is a backdoor way for the federal government to get control of private schools.

 

[Grand Vol]

So public schools need to just become private schools I take it? Correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the biggest issues at the public level of education is the funding, isn't it?

lol, no

Smaller class sizes for starters. A teacher with 30+ students in a class is just not effective.

Do away with tenure for teachers is another way of doing business. You suck at teaching or your grade levels keep slipping? Find out why and either fix the problem or get fired. I.E. get the unions the eff out of the education realm.

And in turn, create incentives for teachers that do go above and beyond. Continually have a class that excels? Get rewarded.

Just some ideas off the top of my head.

 

[RikidyBones]

I'll concede ignorance over the process of having a domestic worker. I'm divorced so I can't even include my wife in that category anymore... but as for #3, the CEO of Hardee's/Carl's Jr had the necessary resources to make sure this woman was in the country legally. He was either lazy or he didn't care... and as for #1, this has everything to do with Trump because of how much he has emphasized this very issue... keeping illegal Mexican immigrants out of the country because they are taking low paying jobs.

I understand HE had the resources. I'll say this, if he has this individual covered under workers comp by an estate company, which is possible, then I can agree with your position. If not and it was a private "hire" then I can't find myself outraged.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

I'll concede ignorance over the process of having a domestic worker. I'm divorced so I can't even include my wife in that category anymore... but as for #3, the CEO of Hardee's/Carl's Jr had the necessary resources to make sure this woman was in the country legally. He was either lazy or he didn't care... and as for #1, this has everything to do with Trump because of how much he has emphasized this very issue... keeping illegal Mexican immigrants out of the country because they are taking low paying jobs.

How would he have the ability to check her status? He can't use Hardee's HR system to check on personal business. That's akin to a cop friend running plates for you. You put a household employee on your personal return, and you don't withhold. The payroll tax is calculated and added to your liability. If they've used a fake SSN you're not going to find out until after you file the return, I'll guess Pudzer extends his so 10/15 the following year. When he realized she wasn't legal he fired her. Most likely she wasn't filing federal and state returns so that's what the back taxes are about.

 

[hog88]

So public schools need to just become private schools if I'm understanding correctly? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the biggest issues at the public level of education is the funding, isn't it?

Not level of funding, use of that funding.

 

[RikidyBones]

How would he have the ability to check her status? He can't use Hardee's HR system to check on personal business. That's akin to a cop friend running plates for you. You put a household employee on your personal return, and you don't withhold. The payroll tax is calculated and added to your liability. If they've used a fake SSN you're not going to find out until after you file the return, I'll guess Pudzer extends his so 10/15 the following year. When he realized she wasn't legal he fired her. Most likely she wasn't filing federal and state returns so that's what the back taxes are about.

He can't use Hardee's but he can easily find a background check vendor that he could use. With that said, you're spot on. It's just different from normal hiring.

 

[volinbham]

More or less...some have learned to read between the lines.

So she's never made the claim but you've imagined that's what she secretly plans to do.

This is akin to taking Obama's "spread the wealth around" comment to ole Joe the Plumber and reading between the lines to say his plan is full-blown communism for the US. After all, he did say he wanted to fundamentally transform the country.

Stay safe in your fear bubble and keep assuming the worst motives about people you disagree with.

 

[Grand Vol]

I might agree with a voucher system if it was done with tax credits instead of transfer payments. You get a tax write-off for making a donation to a private charity, and the private charity can decide for themselves the requirements for receiving the scholarship.

Based on what I have read, Devos (and most other proponents of school vouchers) like doing it with transfer payments, which is a backdoor way for the federal government to get control of private schools.

I'm not sure how they can bully their way in so long as private schools meet or exceed the State/Federal standards.

Of course, this is the government we are talking about...

 

[05_never_again]

I'm not sure how they can bully their way in so long as private schools meet or exceed the State/Federal standards.

Of course, this is the government we are talking about...

Bully their way with transfer payments, or bully their way with tax credits?

It's really easy for them to do it with transfer payments. Much harder for them to do it with tax credits.

 

[volinbham]

Did he end up paying it? If so, I don't care. I'm also anti irs and pro national sales so... I'm a smidge bias on that one.

He paid some of it only after it became public. Some he paid due to an audit.

Also, he had the penalties waived where typically his particular failure is highly penalized and considered quite serious.

Finally, as Treasury secretary he'd be the de facto head of the IRS. A guy who didn't pay his taxes as head of the IRS - if that does't define government I don't know what does.

 

[Grand Vol]

Bully their way with transfer payments, or bully their way with tax credits?

It's really easy for them to do it with transfer payments. Much harder for them to do it with tax credits.

Never mind, I was misreading what you were saying about transfer payments. I think we're on the same page, but I don't entirely agree with tax credits (could/should be a part of it, sure) being that some families just couldn't afford to put up the payments regardless without help.

 

[05_never_again]

He paid some of it only after it became public. Some he paid due to an audit.

Also, he had the penalties waived where typically his particular failure is highly penalized and considered quite serious.

Finally, as Treasury secretary he'd be the de facto head of the IRS. A guy who didn't pay his taxes as head of the IRS - if that does't define government I don't know what does.

Also pretty amazing that he said he used TurboTax to prep the returns in question.