Preston Williams test score flagged by NCAA

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Maybe the bigger question coming into play for the NCAA to flag the score is based on his GPA...very possible his GPA was low throughout senior year and this "high" score brought on suspicions. I don't know how well he did in school, or if he was an honor roll kid or vice versa but regardless , this could have a major impact on him as a student athlete here at UT and any other school if he has to leave or chooses to leave.
 
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JohnMcA60 said:
The attrition of Blueshirts isn't concerning to me. Bruce or Oliver wouldn't have played until 2017 or so. And that's a maybe. The off the field stuff has me concerned more. The DUI with Moseley and the Rape charges the past couple of years. Those are what can smudge your programs view. The ACT with Preston is still in wait and see mode. This kind of attrition in football isn't well known by some in volnation. Things can change and I think the blueshirt idea was really smart with these kids. Unfortunately both dug their own graves. I trust Butch to get this under control. We need the season to start fast. I'm just glad the ones getting in trouble this year aren't important key players.
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Great... Now look what you did you little jerk... You just jinxed us...
 
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VersaceButch said:
What I don't understand is I took the ACT about 6-7 years ago. Even then, the security and precautionary measures were pretty extensive. I don't see how some kids get away with cheating or other people taking the test for them. It just doesn't make sense.
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Check with Derrick Rose and Coach Cal about the statement above.
 
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volquest86 said:
With a 2.8 GPA, for example, you need an NCAA ACT requirements score of 57. It really depends on his GPA in high school on what he needs to score. The higher the GPA, the lower the ACT score needed.
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Well we are screwed because I've never heard anyone getting above a 36
 
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My daughter voluntarily took the ACT again. Score moved from 27 to 31. That was with about 4-6 hours of study per week plus a private tutor.

Someone taking a monumental jump is suspicious. But i can see a person pulling it off with lots of prep, tutoring, etc.
 
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VersaceButch said:
What I don't understand is I took the ACT about 6-7 years ago. Even then, the security and precautionary measures were pretty extensive. I don't see how some kids get away with cheating or other people taking the test for them. It just doesn't make sense.
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I agree. Maybe he slept through and didn't put any effort or time towards his first test. Then he realized he would have to try a little harder to get the score he needed. Thus the improvement. But it just doesn't seem like something that could be faked.

Hopefully his retake proves it. It would be a lot more pressure to take it a second time. He would have less study time. He would be in a room by himself with all eyes on him. I don't like the rule.
 
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Barcio39 said:
The highest ACT score possible is a 36...
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This is correct...if you have a 3.55 GPA or higher. Its a sliding scale based on your GPA and ACT scores. So if you have a lower GPA, you need a higher score...example

3.0 needs 52
2.8 needs 57
2.0 needs 86
 
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volquest86 said:
I agree with you...does make no sense if he didn't' cheat but just had a really good testing day...but the NCAA has some ridiculous rules and this happens to be one of them.
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If the NCAA red flagged it then something must be suspicious. However, it is very common to have good days and bad days when taking standardized tests. I scored in a pretty wide range throughout my practice tests and the variance would look a little off as well. Some days you are just feeling it and everything clicks. Other days, you feel like you couldn't pass a 2nd grade math exam.

This isn't to say he definitely didn't cheat. I'm just stating that jumping up high in score isn't all that unusual.
 
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VersaceButch said:
If the NCAA red flagged it then something must be suspicious. However, it is very common to have good days and bad days when taking standardized tests. I scored in a pretty wide range throughout my practice tests and the variance would look a little off as well. Some days you are just feeling it and everything clicks. Other days, you feel like you couldn't pass a 2nd grade math exam.

This isn't to say he definitely didn't cheat. I'm just stating that jumping up high in score isn't all that unusual.
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Yeah, and maybe he got a tutor when he realized he didn't get the score he needed on his own. I'm sure UT would have worked with him to get him on the right track.
 
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Oh, come the **** on. It took all this ******n time to see a bump in an ACT score? I refuse to believe they juuuuust now got around to it.
 
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volquest86 said:
This is correct...if you have a 3.55 GPA or higher. Its a sliding scale based on your GPA and ACT scores. So if you have a lower GPA, you need a higher score...example

3.0 needs 52
2.8 needs 57
2.0 needs 86
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Not sure I understand....
The highest ACT score is 36 on a scale to 36. Is there a multiplier that I am missing?
 
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BruinVol said:
The overall score is broken into for 4 parts. Highest score is 36 which would be a 4part score of 144.

A 16 overall really means a 64 total score if that makes any sense
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Yes this is what I was getting at. Multiple parts of scoring.
 
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volquest86 said:
This is correct...if you have a 3.55 GPA or higher. Its a sliding scale based on your GPA and ACT scores. So if you have a lower GPA, you need a higher score...example

3.0 needs 52
2.8 needs 57
2.0 needs 86
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I read over it and the reason the numbers are so high is because the larger numbers are sum scores not over all scores. So they take each individual score from science, math, reading, etc.
 
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Barcio39 said:
I read over it and the reason the numbers are so high is because the larger numbers are sum scores not over all scores. So they take each individual score from science, math, reading, etc.
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Got ya. But instead of saying a 2.0 needs 86, they should say say a 2.0 needs 86/4 = 21.5. Because the score received isn't a total but rather an average.
 
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