Preston Williams test score flagged by NCAA

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golfballs said:
I never took the ACT

I don't know anyone at my HS that did. Everyone took the SAT.
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Was the opposite for me. All took the ACT at least once. I was told the SAT was more for out-of-state places, but I still don't know if that was really true. I never took the SAT, and all the colleges outside KY accepted my ACT stuff.
 
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JDisThereThere said:
Also, F*** the NCAA for doing this like 3 or 4 days before the start of fall camp.
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I am with you. Why do they review things like this just as fall practice is set to begin? These reviews should be done much earlier to give the student/athlete plenty of time to retest. I hold them in contempt once again for poor administration and oversight.
 
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JDisThereThere said:
How the hell would one cheat on an ACT or SAT type test? I remembered they were monitored super closely. I'm pretty sure that everybody in the room gets a different test from everyone else because the question order is mixed up yet from the same question bank, if that makes sense.
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I went to a small school where everyone knew everyone. We weren't supposed to have drinks and had to show ID etc. but our teachers let us anyway, especially us Football players who had a game 2 hours away the night before and the test at 8 AM. Some of us were DII or NAIA good, most DIII at best.

Imagine a DI athlete at a mid sized or small school, or just a top prospect at all at any football important town. I could easily see teachers or coaches at any school helping a player if it meant that kid got to college or improved his chances of play.
 
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This reminds me of what got Memphis nailed for Derrick Rose, except in his case it was the SAT. He "took" the test a second time, got a higher score, and the testing service flagged it.

Look on the bright side - he hasn't played in any games so he can't be ruled retroactively ineligible.
 
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Don't see PW playing this year. Even if he gets a retake date before the season starts it would take the NCAA another six months to rule on it. Probably needed to RS anyway just to get completely healthy and stronger anyway. Still sucks.
 
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McDad said:
My daughter voluntarily took the ACT again. Score moved from 27 to 31. That was with about 4-6 hours of study per week plus a private tutor.

Someone taking a monumental jump is suspicious. But i can see a person pulling it off with lots of prep, tutoring, etc.
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I had a 4 point jump in between sophomore and junior year myself. And it's a LOT harder to improve once you get on up to the high twenties and thirties in my case.

It's easy to jump from the teens to the twenties because of the way the test is scaled and scored. If Preston blew off the ACT the first time and didn't study at all and then actually put forth the effort the second time there's no reason why it couldn't have jumped twelve points or so.
 
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GLDunlap said:
Don't see PW playing this year. Even if he gets a retake date before the season starts it would take the NCAA another six months to rule on it. Probably needed to RS anyway just to get completely healthy and stronger anyway. Still sucks.
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Agreed...:hi:
 
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GLDunlap said:
Don't see PW playing this year. Even if he gets a retake date before the season starts it would take the NCAA another six months to rule on it. Probably needed to RS anyway just to get completely healthy and stronger anyway. Still sucks.
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I highly doubt it would take 6 months. Not that I expect him to play this year but it doesn't take that long to grade a test taken on a scantron. If he has to retake it supervised by someone from the NCAA they could realistically send it off to get scored and have the test results within a few days. The only reason it takes so long in the first place is because if you take it on a national testing day your test is being shipped off to the grading center with thousands of other tests.
 
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I'm not worried about Pw yet. He has support and is in a WAY BETTER position than joe Henderson.

PW is also much more value to vols and Henderson was. Just sayin

-swain
 
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volquest86 said:
Back when I graduated high school...the SAT was a required test to pass and get into College. No way around it, so why in the world would he have to re-take it...unless someone has made a comment to the university that he "cheated" or his scores were altered back in high school.
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Some Auburn schmuck probably
 
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Good grief. The ACT/SAT is not a very difficult exam. It's not like the MCAT or LSTAT. What is wrong with young people these days? Is it really that difficult to study, stay away from drugs/alcohol and have respect for women?
 
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VersaceButch said:
I highly doubt it would take 6 months. Not that I expect him to play this year but it doesn't take that long to grade a test taken on a scantron. If he has to retake it supervised by someone from the NCAA they could realistically send it off to get scored and have the test results within a few days. The only reason it takes so long in the first place is because if you take it on a national testing day your test is being shipped off to the grading center with thousands of other tests.
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If the NCAA is involved it won't be quick.
 
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Step back from the ledge. He has a test date within 2 weeks and enough test prep tutors on the hill to ensure he hits the number. It's up to him to study and knock this thing out. PW is a stud WR and we need him but Jennings moving to WR just lessened the blow. That kid is special and we will get to see it soon.
 
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volquest86 said:
With a 2.8 GPA, for example, you need an NCAA ACT requirements score of 57. It really depends on his GPA in high school on what he needs to score. The higher the GPA, the lower the ACT score needed.
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Considering a perfect score on the act is a 36, I can tell you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Good grief. The ACT/SAT is not a very difficult exam. It's not like the MCAT or LSTAT. What is wrong with young people these days? Is it really that difficult to study, stay away from drugs/alcohol and have respect for women?
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You do understand the problem is that he scored too high, right?
 
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jarnol32 said:
Considering a perfect score on the act is a 36, I can tell you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
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It'a been pointed out numerous times that the sliding scale score is the sum of the best of each section rather than an average. Therefore the maximum is 144.
 
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Reminds me of something...

Remember the time Preston Williams showed up at halftime and the Vols won the Bourbon Bowl?
 
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UTodd01 said:
You do understand the problem is that "he" scored too high, right?
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Or maybe someone else scored too high for him...

If he scored that high the first time then he'll have no problem scoring that high again. It's not like the ACT is full of trick questions and he just got lucky the last time he took it.
 
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This is the NCAA dictating a solution that is a bigger problem than the issue that they are addressing. What's important is that the kids make progress towards a degree rather than if they've jumped through all of the hoops in order to be allowed to pursue a degree. If the NCAA has an issue with a particular athlete, then they could immediately administer their own test to provide them with an assurance that the test results could be valid. They can also have the student athlete on a watch list and closely monitor their academic performance until they are satisfied that they are viable students. If the kid is as dumb as a rock, they're going to quickly flunk out... and the teams overall ratings will take a hit.

This might be the NCAA's stupidest rule. Somebody that busts their tail and drastically improves their score and they are punished. Pure stupidity. The NCAA needs to be sued.
 
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