Private Sector screwing up

#326
#326
MG1968 said:
and you've provided what exactly? A stirring defense of big government intrusion into the private sector?
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by your sig, i know where you stand... let the private sector bosses just run over everybody. you have the money to get around it. most of us don't
 
#327
#327
Cash Vallin said:
lets see, take a poll on a TENNESSEE message board.... HMMMMM, which was is this going, :good!:
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What? I said you pick the voters, on this site. You floated more BS and I gave you a chance to prove it. You blinked.
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#328
#328
BeecherVol said:
It provided a necessity for its time.

But like most government run operations, when it comes to business it can't compete. But also unlike the government, FedEx,UPS.... have to make a profit. The government will keep operating and pull the money from somewhere else.
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utvolpj said:
To borrow a quote from you
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Ummmmmmmmmm, when something blows up, it's only logical to look at safety first
 
#329
#329
Cash Vallin said:
the argument was whether or not it was successful... only recently has it not been. If I start a company and it lasts for 200-something years, pretty sure I'll take that everytime
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This is pure lunacy. By that measure, tribal governments in Afghan land are successful.
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#330
#330
Cash Vallin said:
YES!!!

Because people got families to feed, businesses can just take advantage of that and provide little to no safety. Give me a break... If the company isn't taking care of its employees, the government has every right to take care of its voters, its citizens.
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What makes you think the government would provide anymore safety? You obviously trust someone you have never met a WHOLE lot more than I plan to.

I will leave my job right NOW, if I feel like my employer is putting me in a position where I can not defend my health.
 
#331
#331
BigPapaVol said:
What? I said you pick the voters, on this site. You floated more BS and I gave you a chance to prove it. You blinked.
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sorry, thought you meant the people on this site. If i get to pick the voters, you won't win... you can't be that dense
 
#332
#332
Cash Vallin said:
by your sig, i know where you stand... let the private sector bosses just run over everybody. you have the money to get around it. most of us don't
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you have no clue what my sig means

unless you mean "Greed is Good" over my Exxon avatar. I'm glad it bothers you, I'm even more tickled that there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
 
#333
#333
Cash Vallin said:
sorry, thought you meant the people on this site. If i get to pick the voters, you won't win... you can't be that dense
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You sadden me, but do confirm many of my notions about young, ignorant democrats. Congrats.
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#334
#334
BigPapaVol said:
This is pure lunacy. By that measure, tribal governments in Afghan land are successful.
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have you read all my posts... WHAT HAS BEEN THE ONLY OPTION IN THIS COUNTRY FOR THE LONGEST TIME FOR MAIL???? THE POSTAL SERVICE. THat my friend is a success story.

You'll never admit it because it's government though.
 
#335
#335
MG1968 said:
you have no clue what my sig means

unless you mean "Greed is Good" over my Exxon avatar. I'm glad it bothers you, I'm even more tickled that there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
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that can go both ways, buddy... I"m glad the way I think pisses you off because there's not a dang thing you can do about it. :salute:
 
#336
#336
Cash Vallin said:
have you read all my posts... WHAT HAS BEEN THE ONLY OPTION IN THIS COUNTRY FOR THE LONGEST TIME FOR MAIL???? THE POSTAL SERVICE. THat my friend is a success story.

You'll never admit it because it's government though.
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I feel confident that everyone will admit the USPS is successful when it is the only option. At least I concede that point
 
#337
#337
BigPapaVol said:
You sadden me, but do confirm many of my notions about young, ignorant democrats. Congrats.
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aren't you the one that said josh bone over bobby maze??? hahahahahahhahahahaha

or that Pearl couldn't get UT past the sweet 16??? hahahahahah
 
#338
#338
For a people that make a career out of telling you what you want to here, and then doing what ever serves their purpose, there sure are a lot of people that trust politicians.

As opposed to trusting themselves.
 
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#339
utvolpj said:
I feel confident that everyone will admit the USPS is successful when it is the only option. At least I concede that point
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when it was the only option, that could mean it was ahead of its time. Sorry, it was a success story.

Now, in its current form, it's not. I'll gladly go the private sector route.
 
#340
#340
utvolpj said:
I feel confident that everyone will admit the USPS is successful when it is the only option. At least I concede that point
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I would as well.

Maybe the government should pull the others in and make them part of the USPS?

Maybe the next move.:question:
 
#341
#341
BeecherVol said:
What makes you think the government would provide anymore safety? You obviously trust someone you have never met a WHOLE lot more than I plan to.

I will leave my job right NOW, if I feel like my employer is putting me in a position where I can not defend my health.
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good for you... maybe you have the means... the west virginia coal miners said they didn't feel safe due to a lack of safety precautions taken by the company.

could they just move on? maybe. or maybe the had no other option but to stick it out since that's the only thing they were qualified to do.
 
#343
#343
Cash Vallin said:
good for you... maybe you have the means... the west virginia coal miners said they didn't feel safe due to a lack of safety precautions taken by the company.

could they just move on? maybe. or maybe the had no other option but to stick it out since that's the only thing they were qualified to do.
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tell you what, why don't you show us some government-run coal mines that have exemplary safety records.

I have to go to work now, when I come back, I hope to see that you've found at least one example.
 
#344
#344
tell you what, show me the safety records of coal mines before government intervention..

i look forward to your examples
 
#345
#345
Cash Vallin said:
good for you... maybe you have the means... the west virginia coal miners said they didn't feel safe due to a lack of safety precautions taken by the company.

could they just move on? maybe. or maybe the had no other option but to stick it out since that's the only thing they were qualified to do.
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1. So your saying they knew it was dangerous.
2. I don't slam anyone for picking a career. I have worked many types of jobs in my life, from the time I was 12. I moved on to something else when the time come for me to do so. They had/have the same chance I did, and still do.
 
#346
#346
Cash Vallin said:
good for you... maybe you have the means... the west virginia coal miners said they didn't feel safe due to a lack of safety precautions taken by the company.

could they just move on? maybe. or maybe the had no other option but to stick it out since that's the only thing they were qualified to do.
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As to this part. What exactly are implying?
 
#347
#347
You have no clue of the plight of those people, and nor do I.

Given the choice, now, I bet they would move on. Oh wait, they're dead, thanks to a company that ignored safety regulations.
 
#349
#349
Cash Vallin said:
You have no clue of the plight of those people, and nor do I.

Given the choice, now, I bet they would move on. Oh wait, they're dead, thanks to a company that ignored safety regulations.
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So in other words, unless they have put a wall around WV, and forced these fellas to mine coal for a living. They could have relocated?
 
#350
#350
Cash Vallin said:
when it was the only option, that could mean it was ahead of its time. Sorry, it was a success story.
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It is absurd to pretend a government subsidized outfit, that kept out competitors via government subsidy, was somehow successful as a business.

The bottom line is that the pricing was held artificially low for ages because nobody really questioned governmental largesse. Now that they do, it's clearly a disaster and has been since inception.
 
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