Pro-Gay Video Shown in Schools

[CountVolcula]

why?

Why is the word Abnormal in our dictionaries? Because its the opposite of normal. Whether you want to believe it or not, being homosexual is abnormal behavior. You can sugar coat it all you want, but it goes against the norm. But they want you to believe its normal behavior. If a person becomes a murderer and no one else in the family was a murderer, can you blame that on a "murderer" gene.

 

[CountVolcula]

I would like to post this question and see what some of you think.

Could homosexuality be natures way, outside of disease, to control over-population of a species?

 

[KB5252]

I would like to post this question and see what some of you think.

Could homosexuality be natures way, outside of disease, to control over-population of a species?

I believe it's possible this could be one valid explanation. I think there is some evidence of this in the animal kingdom. I will also say that I doubt there is one specific reason, probably many different factors at play, many different reasons.

 

[UT IE 95]

We simply do not know and understand the reasons some people are homosexual. There is much work to be done on the subject. My guess is there are a number of reasons and not one in particular. For example there may very well be a gene or genes responsible for some. I think there are some environmental factors that may be at work as well and there is some work being done on both of these factors.

Some gay people are that way by choice and others seem to have been born that way or at least predisposed.

I think the key to understanding homosexuality is first to better understand the forces that drive pedophiles, S&M, heterosexual relationships, homosexual relationships along with other form of sexual desires outside of the mainstream. For the record I am not saying that homosexuals and pedophiles have anything in common, just that we need to better understand what drives the preferences and desires of particular groups to better understand what drives them.

Why do we need to understand what drives someones personal preferences? Some people are attracted to fat chicks, some people are attracted to other races, and some people are attracted to their same sex. Some people like coke, some like pepsi. Some people like PCs, others go for a Mac.

I just look at it as no big deal, end of story.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Some like crack, others like crack and vagina!

 

[UT IE 95]

BTW, for all those that think it's an OK lifestyle, would you be OK if your child came home and said I am gay at 12 years old or even as an adult?? Would you propitiate the lifestyle even though you are straight??

My only question would be "Are you happy?". If the answer is "Yes", then it's fine.

 

[KB5252]

Why do we need to understand what drives someones personal preferences? Some people are attracted to fat chicks, some people are attracted to other races, and some people are attracted to their same sex. Some people like coke, some like pepsi. Some people like PCs, others go for a Mac.

I just look at it as no big deal, end of story.

That is a valid question and I'm not sure I have a very good answer other than to say that if we have a better understanding of how and why some people choose the same sex in selecting their partners it may very well lead to a larger portion of society accepting it. At the very least it would subdue the harsh opinions some have on the subject.

Human nature has always sought the answers to questions like this, it has always been this way and probably always will.

 

[UT IE 95]

That is a valid question and I'm not sure I have a very good answer other than to say that if we have a better understanding of how and why some people choose the same sex in selecting their partners it may very well lead to a larger portion of society accepting it. At the very least it would subdue the harsh opinions some have on the subject.

Human nature has always sought the answers to questions like this, it has always been this way and probably always will.

I can go for that. Good answer. Better than the crack and vagina reply.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Some dudes prefer the front and back door and other guys just like the back door.

You know, like Rock Hudson.

He got a hold of some bad crack and it killed him.

 

[BigPapaVol]

I would like to post this question and see what some of you think.

Could homosexuality be natures way, outside of disease, to control over-population of a species?

no

 

[TheMayja]

I would like to post this question and see what some of you think.

Could homosexuality be natures way, outside of disease, to control over-population of a species?

I don't really see how nature could come to realize that a particular species is becoming over-populated, then devise a scheme to control said species. It's not like there's a census report for nature to read.

 

[UT IE 95]

I would like to post this question and see what some of you think.

Could homosexuality be natures way, outside of disease, to control over-population of a species?

Could dwarfism be natures way, outside of disease, to control over-heightening of a species?

Could albinism be natures way, outside of disease, to control over-darkening of a species?

Could retardation be natures way, outside of disease, to control over-intelligence of a species?

No, to all of the above.

 

[emainvol]

Not sure why everyone is assuming one particular gene would control something as complex as sexuality, or that said gene would necessarily obey Mendelian genetics, or that it wouldn't be a recessive gene.

See guys, I wasn't just talking out of my ass.

 

[CountVolcula]

no

Finally a straight answer!! No pun intended

 

[CountVolcula]

I don't really see how nature could come to realize that a particular species is becoming over-populated, then devise a scheme to control said species. It's not like there's a census report for nature to read.

Nature knows the healthy population of any given species. That is why you have predators and prey. Take whitetail deer for instance. Man has taken away the natural predators of the whitetail across most of the country. Now we have places that are becoming over-populated, especially urban areas because of lack of any natural predator and no hunting. So what happens, nature uses hunger and disease to bring that species back into healthy population that the given area can handle. Humans area no different. Let any area become overpopulated with humans, add in less than acceptable sanitary conditions and close contact. All you need is a nasty virus to take hold and watch what happens. Nature is unforgiving, something we cant control and most dont understand.

 

[Oldvol75]

Nobody Is talking about how animals will either eat their young or leave it to die if it is born different. To me thats shows a type of population control.

FWIW, having 2 boys, there are times I understand why Tigers eat their young!!!!!!

 

[allvol123]

BTW, for all those that think it's an OK lifestyle, would you be OK if your child came home and said I am gay at 12 years old or even as an adult?? Would you propitiate the lifestyle even though you are straight??

Now that I have children I completely understand I will always love them more than anything in this world no matter what they do. That said, the above scenario would not be "OK" with me but not much I could do about it. I just want them to be happy, healthy, and productive. My fear is that scenario would mean that one or both of my first two wishes for them would be in serious jeopardy.

 

[TheMayja]

Nature knows the healthy population of any given species. That is why you have predators and prey. Take whitetail deer for instance. Man has taken away the natural predators of the whitetail across most of the country. Now we have places that are becoming over-populated, especially urban areas because of lack of any natural predator and no hunting. So what happens, nature uses hunger and disease to bring that species back into healthy population that the given area can handle. Humans area no different. Let any area become overpopulated with humans, add in less than acceptable sanitary conditions and close contact. All you need is a nasty virus to take hold and watch what happens. Nature is unforgiving, something we cant control and most dont understand.

I still don't understand the concept of nature creating homosexuals to control the population. Homosexuality is not just some new phenomena that has popped up in the last 50 years; it's been around forever. Wouldn't nature just find a way to make more people infertile instead of completely altering their sexualities?

If anything, maybe AIDS is nature's way of controlling the gay population?

 

[CountVolcula]

I still don't understand the concept of nature creating homosexuals to control the population. Homosexuality is not just some new phenomena that has popped up in the last 50 years; it's been around forever. Wouldn't nature just find a way to make more people infertile instead of completely altering their sexualities?

If anything, maybe AIDS is nature's way of controlling the gay population?

I'm just stabbing in the dark. Just a hypothesis!!! I'm not saying its the reason. Nobody knows really what makes a person homosexual and I really dont care!!

 

[CountVolcula]

nvm

 

[CountVolcula]

Nobody Is talking about how animals will either eat their young or leave it to die if it is born different. To me thats shows a type of population control.

FWIW, having 2 boys, there are times I understand why Tigers eat their young!!!!!!

I've got two girls and a boy and I can feel your pain. Still, I wouldnt trade them for all the money in the world.

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Lol @ the notion of gays "recruiting".



No, I wouldn't necessarily be okay with it, but it's not my life. I would still love he or she the same.

Alienating gays because of their lifestyle is ridiculous to me, especially if it's your own child. I'm 100% convinced that it isn't a choice for them, at least most of them. I don't know if it's something genetic or something they experience very early in their childhood, but condemning them for pursuing their own happiness (that does no harm to others) is just morally wrong.

So, I should be morally OK with them pursuing happiness, but not morally OK with them being gay. You really can't have your cake and eat it too here.

As far as the recruiting goes, why the hell do you think they are showing it in schools?? For sex-ed class?? This is geared towards kids that are trying to figure out what they are, so if you say it's OK now it will be more socially accepted later by them if they choose to go with it. Most every parent that I can think of wouldn't be OK with this being shown to their kids. It's indoctrination at the earliest levels, and if you don't think it is then I got some beachfront property in Memphis to sell you.

 

[kptvol]

They can't recuit your daughter you fool. She's either gay or she isn't

Then why do they call it playing for the other team?

 

[TheMayja]

So, I should be morally OK with them pursuing happiness, but not morally OK with them being gay. You really can't have your cake and eat it too here.

I didn't say that. As is the case with most straight people, I don't agree with homosexuality, but it's not right for me to condemn them for it. Just because you or I don't agree with something, doesn't mean that we should disown them or treat them like they are any less human. We should let them find their own way and pursue their own happiness as long as they're not doing harm to others.

As far as the recruiting goes, why the hell do you think they are showing it in schools?? For sex-ed class?? This is geared towards kids that are trying to figure out what they are, so if you say it's OK now it will be more socially accepted later by them if they choose to go with it. Most every parent that I can think of wouldn't be OK with this being shown to their kids. It's indoctrination at the earliest levels, and if you don't think it is then I got some beachfront property in Memphis to sell you.

I don't see it as recruiting because, in my eyes, a person is either straight or gay and it is part of their existence long before they're in first grade. I don't believe that showing a 6 year old a video will turn he or she gay. If you believe homosexuality is a choice, then we just have to agree to disagree.

With that being said, I really can't decide how I feel about the video. It seems a little extreme to me, and I probably wouldn't want my kid to see it. But at the same time, teaching kids that gays are human beings too may alleviate some of the irrational hate in our society.

 

[pejp]

I didn't say that. As is the case with most straight people, I don't agree with homosexuality, but it's not right for me to condemn them for it. Just because you or I don't agree with something, doesn't mean that we should disown them or treat them like they are any less human. We should let them find their own way and pursue their own happiness as long as they're not doing harm to others.



I don't see it as recruiting because, in my eyes, a person is either straight or gay and it is part of their existence long before they're in first grade. I don't believe that showing a 6 year old a video will turn he or she gay. If you believe homosexuality is a choice, then we just have to agree to disagree.

With that being said, I really can't decide how I feel about the video. It seems a little extreme to me, and I probably wouldn't want my kid to see it. But at the same time, teaching kids that gays are human beings too may alleviate some of the irrational hate in our society.

Speak for yourself. Maybe where you are from/live that's the case, not where I am.

i agree with the rest of your post, though I think a lot of this education should start at home. I dont think it is the job of a school to teach these kind of things.