Pro Life Activist Acquitted

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utvolpj said:
Exactly what words? Why do you assume they weren't threatening?

No I simply read the situation. If you approach my child like that then you are a threat until you prove you're not.
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Why do you assume they were threatening?

Apparently their is a video of the encounter. I haven't watched it. If there are threats and violent posturing by the old man, then the response needs to rise to the occassion.

Question, do you find a lot of 92 year old men who are physically capable of doing you or your children harm?
 
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McDad said:
Why do you assume they were threatening?

Apparently their is a video of the encounter. I haven't watched it. If there are threats and violent posturing by the old man, then the response needs to rise to the occassion.

Question, do you find a lot of 92 year old men who are physically capable of doing you or your children harm?
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Then watch it. There's no reason for a adult to approach a child on the street and attempt to attack, threaten or intimidate them.

Yes there absolutely are 72yo men that could hurt my kids. Anyone who doesn't think so is a fool
 
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McDad said:
Why do you assume they were threatening?

Apparently their is a video of the encounter. I haven't watched it. If there are threats and violent posturing by the old man, then the response needs to rise to the occassion.

Question, do you find a lot of 92 year old men who are physically capable of doing you or your children harm?
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I don’t know about 92, but I know some 72 yr olds (which is the age of the man being discussed in this thread) that can kick ass and take names all day.
 
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McDad said:
Why do you assume they were threatening?

Apparently their is a video of the encounter. I haven't watched it. If there are threats and violent posturing by the old man, then the response needs to rise to the occassion.

Question, do you find a lot of 92 year old men who are physically capable of doing you or your children harm?
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92? No but yeah I know some 70 year old men very capable of harming an adult let alone a child.
 
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hog88 said:
I agree and we will never know if the dad felt imminent harm and his gut was telling him to act. The old man did go out of his way to confront a kid who was doing nothing to him so I could see how he felt the guy was a threat.
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I didn't watch the video. I can't recall any 92 year old that I thought was a physical threat to me or my kids without the assist of a weapon.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
And I read your propaganda on a daily basis.

How is pointing the lefts hypocrisy not valid here?

Also, I'm sure you were going after all those Obama hat wearing folks back in the day. Your true colors show through yet again. 🤣
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You're not pointing anything out. It's your attempt to make up a some imaginary hypocrisy and then play the victim. It's bad comedy at this point

But but but maga hat...
 
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StarRaider said:
Basically followed the Branch Rickey playbook

Prior to Jackie Robinson making his debut, Branch Rickey cautioned Robinson about the things that would inevitably happen as a result of him taking the field. He told Robinson “I’m looking for a guy that will have the ability to not fight back”. Sure enough, Robinson faced death threats, racial slurs, and having objects thrown at him by fans, but he would take Rickey’s advice to heart.

Branch Rickey: The Man Who Supported Jackie Robinson And The Integration Of Baseball
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I never knew about this. Thanks for sharing.
 
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utvolpj said:
You're not pointing anything out. It's your attempt to make up a some imaginary hypocrisy and then play the victim. It's bad comedy at this point

But but but maga hat...
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If your too dense to see the validity of pointing out two different standards of justice then the conversation is above you. I really don't think you're that dense so me thinks it's more of your protectionism of all things liberal.
 
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utvolpj said:
Then watch it. There's no reason for a adult to approach a child on the street and attempt to attack, threaten or intimidate them.

Yes there absolutely are 72yo men that could hurt my kids. Anyone who doesn't think so is a fool
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I never claimed there is a reason to approach another's kids. In fact, the only claim I am making is that using violence in response to words is wrong and is bad parenting.

Are your children not faster than the average 92 72 year old?

ETA: corrected age.
 
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McDad said:
I never claimed there is a reason to approach another's kids. In fact, the only claim I am making is that using violence in response to words is wrong and is bad parenting.

Are your children not faster than the average 92 year old?
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The man in question is 72, not 92.
 
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My Father who is 83 years old and a former Army Drill Saergent and golden gloves boxer has slowed down greatly, but make no mistake about it, he is very capable of inflicting serious bodily harm.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
If your too dense to see the validity of pointing out two different standards of justice then the conversation is above you. I really don't think you're that dense so me thinks it's more of your protectionism of all things liberal.
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So a 72yo maga hat guy was pushed by a leftie while going after their child and the law treated it differently? Link?
 
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McDad said:
I took on a study of MLK jr related to my work last year. Something I didn't know about the civil rights era is that black people put their peaceful protesters through role play exercises. Things like yelling in their face, calling them every slur, blowing cigarette smoke in their face, etc.

I think the civil rights movement would have been far different had the protesters responded with violence.

Possibly related, I heard a story about Tiger Wood's father (James??) doing the same to Tiger with ugly words and names to prepare his mind for the professional tour. I've wondered if he picked that up from the civil rights era prepping black people for what was to come.
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Interesting. But, there had also been a line of black pro golfers before Woods, and black PGA tour card holders that had decent success and racked up some wins. Lee Elder, I think, broke into The Masters even though some think they changed their rules for Woods. Not sure how much abuse Pops was expecting Tiger to face, but I suppose it could have still been happening regularly.
 
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GVF said:
Interesting. But, there had also been a line of black pro golfers before Woods, and black PGA tour card holders that had decent success and racked up some wins. Lee Elder, I think, broke into The Masters even though some think they changed their rules for Woods. Not sure how much abuse Pops was expecting Tiger to face, but I suppose it could have still been happening regularly.
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I don't know either. I can't speak to his motivation for taking Tiger through it beyond preparing his mind for the rigors of a professional career. In fact, it may have had less to do with prepping him for racism and more about teaching Tiger to control his thoughts and emotions.

I am only making the connection between what he did with Tiger and the civil rights era training as possibly where James learned the technique.
 
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McDad said:
I don't know either. I can't speak to his motivation for taking Tiger through it beyond preparing his mind for the rigors of a professional career. In fact, it may have had less to do with prepping him for racism and more about teaching Tiger to control his thoughts and emotions.

I am only making the connection between what he did with Tiger and the civil rights era training as possibly where James learned the technique.
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THat would make more sense. There were occasional rumors about the parenting skills of the elder Woods (Earl?). He rode him hard. Tigers drive to win certainly came from that. It was also his downfall, especially his own treatment of women he learned from dad.
 
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utvolpj said:
Why is the man now 92?
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I didn't understand the context of this statement (which was the first post I replied to):

I don’t care if you are 92, you talk like that to my child you are going to see what pavement looks like really closely
 
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The FBI has always been like this. You guys think it's political, and maybe it is, but this is how they operate. My college roommate's Dad got arrested by the FBI at his house with a big show of force in broad daylight in front of all his neighbors. He hadn't even done anything wrong. It wasn't political. It was a misunderstanding. All they had to do was contact him and he would've voluntarily brought himself in.

I always think back to this one story of an old retired codger in Texas who had a green thumb as a hobby. The FBI raided his house because they thought he was trying to import drugs. They were 100% wrong and it was gonna be a big black eye for the FBI, but to save face they charged him with conspiracy to import an illegal orchid which he did not actually import or know was illegal. He just sent an email inquiry to somebody about it, which they found on his confiscated computer. They mortgaged their house to pay for his failed defense. He did 8 years. This is a true story. This is the FBI.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The FBI has always been like this. You guys think it's political, and maybe it is, but this is how they operate. My college roommate's Dad got arrested by the FBI at his house with a big show of force in broad daylight in front of all his neighbors. He hadn't even done anything wrong. It wasn't political. It was a misunderstanding. All they had to do was contact him and he would've voluntarily brought himself in.

I always think back to this one story of an old retired codger in Texas who had a green thumb as a hobby. The FBI raided his house because they thought he was trying to import drugs. They were 100% wrong and it was gonna be a big black eye for the FBI, but to save face they charged him with conspiracy to import an illegal orchid which he did not actually import or know was illegal. He just sent an email inquiry to somebody about it, which they found on his confiscated computer. They mortgaged their house to pay for his failed defense. He did 8 years. This is a true story. This is the FBI.
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Absolute truth...the show of force and making an example part.

IRS is the same. The bigger and more public, the better.

Brings to mind something I discussed with my son a few weeks ago. I'll start another thread on it.
 
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McDad said:
Unfortunately, you will not always be around to protect your child with violence from ugly words. Far better for you to teach the skill of handling the ugliness internally rather than teaching them to cope with violence.
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Until they are 18, they are under my protection. They will have hopefully seen me respond correctly to verbal attacks. But I am under no moral requirement to allow others to accost my kids. We are only asked to turn our own other cheeks. Not those of our family as well. Note I am only talking about shoving them out of my kids face, not going after them with a chainsaw. That isn’t assault. That is standing your ground.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Until they are 18, they are under my protection. They will have hopefully seen me respond correctly to verbal attacks. But I am under no moral requirement to allow others to accost my kids. We are only asked to turn our own other cheeks. Not those of our family as well. Note I am only talking about shoving them out of my kids face, not going after them with a chainsaw. That isn’t assault. That is standing your ground.
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if verbal attack includes threats, then yes.
if verbal attack doesn't include threats, then no.

A shove might be considered assault. That's one for the lawyers to comment on.
 
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