Proof of the election fraud

[BreatheUT]

A liberal screaming about hypocrisy? That’s rich. I am glad things are being investigated. I have always said there could have been fraud on Trumps behalf. You and your ilk are the ones who vehemently disagreed with any investigations. But yeah act like you care now.

He's here to defend his scared cow. You can almost always predict he's showing up once Wayne posts.

 

[VolinWayne]

He's here to defend his scared cow. You can almost always predict he's showing up once Wayne posts.

Lol every time. I actually gave him a like this morning. I got him to agree that all cases where election laws are broken should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

 

[Jxn Vol]

Does this mean the US and Afghanistan are about to have a shotgun wedding?

Maybe we can borrow our shotgun from the Afghans for the ceremony.

 

[Gandalf]

More on the Mark Meadows story ....

Why Did Mark Meadows Register to Vote at an Address Where He Did Not Reside?

Trump chief of staff purged from NC voter rolls, under investigation for voter fraud

After voting in Virginia, Mark Meadows is removed as a North Carolina registered voter

https://thehill.com/news/state-watch/3266372-mark-meadows-removed-from-north-carolina-voter-rolls/

https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...h-carolina-voter-rolls-amid-voter-fraud-probe

A lot of BS attempt at a gotcha - clearly a dwelling that they rented since he had already sold his other house and then was moving in between DC. He may or may not have stayed there (his wife clearly did) while moving around on campaign trails, etc but it may be that that was where his "stuff" was. Years ago, when I traveled around California and many places, I still listed my home address as my parents because the other places I stayed were transitory.

Again, bunch of crap - its not like he voted in NC, then voted in VA, then voted in DC all in the same election.

When Dem machines in big cities stop voting for people by the 100 thousands, that would otherwise be dormant, then let me know.

And I would not have any issue if a Dem did this either. Now if it were specifically clear he had his home dwelling in one place but tried to pull off a PO box (I have seen guys do this with commercial buildings) in order to qualify for residency in an election, then maybe they have something sanctionable.

Again, this is coming from someone who used to coach candidates on establishing residence to run in a particular district. We would have people who might have a house in one place, an apartment in another and a business elsewhere. Gets confusing.

 

[BowlBrother85]

A lot of BS attempt at a gotcha - clearly a dwelling that they rented since he had already sold his other house and then was moving in between DC. He may or may not have stayed there (his wife clearly did) while moving around on campaign trails, etc but it may be that that was where his "stuff" was. Years ago, when I traveled around California and many places, I still listed my home address as my parents because the other places I stayed were transitory.

Again, bunch of crap - its not like he voted in NC, then voted in VA, then voted in DC all in the same election.

When Dem machines in big cities stop voting for people by the 100 thousands, that would otherwise be dormant, then let me know.

And I would not have any issue if a Dem did this either. Now if it were specifically clear he had his home dwelling in one place but tried to pull off a PO box (I have seen guys do this with commercial buildings) in order to qualify for residency in an election, then maybe they have something sanctionable.

Again, this is coming from someone who used to coach candidates on establishing residence to run in a particular district. We would have people who might have a house in one place, an apartment in another and a business elsewhere. Gets confusing.

This is a ridiculous post. It's very simple:

1) Mark Meadows was registered to vote in Virginia, and had voted in Virginia in 2016.

2) Meadows then registered to vote in North Carolina in 2020, using an address to a property that he doesn't own and has never resided. Meadows voted in North Carolina for the 2020 election cycle.

3) ... and then he switched back to voting in Virginia last November for the Governor's Election.

You don't get to have multiple registrations and pick which one to use based on the importance of the contest to your political party. Hence the reason that Meadows was purged from the North Carolina voting rolls.

 

[BowlBrother85]

https://www.ncsl.org/Documents/Elections/The_Canvass_May_2016.pdf

Read "Voter Registration is All About Residency."

 

[whodeycin85]

Didn't Yang and others encourage people to move to Georgia during the runoff elections

 

[BreatheUT]

Didn't Yang and others encourage people to move to Georgia during the runoff elections

That sounds about right that Yang was one but it could've been a gang of dem's that promoted it if I remember correctly.

 

[JOEY’S ALL VOL !!!]

It doesn't make a person "damn stupid" to vote against Donald Trump.

No, not necessarily it doesn’t, but it does take a person “monumentally damn stupid” to pull the lever for the dipshit in office now. That is a plain and simple fact that only the most ignorant among us would deny. Party politics only on full display, the left’s solution to get rid of the President they hated was to elect a candidate that was everything they claimed Trump to be 10 times over. The evidence is overwhelming that Biden voters don’t give a damn whether there is a scumbag in office as long as it’s their own brain dead scumbag.

 

[BreatheUT]

No, not necessarily it doesn’t, but it does take a person “monumentally damn stupid” to pull the lever for the dipshit in office now. That is a plain and simple fact that only the most ignorant among us would deny. Party politics only on full display, the left’s solution to get rid of the President they hated was to elect a candidate that was everything they claimed Trump to be 10 times over. The evidence is overwhelming that Biden voters don’t give a damn whether there is a scumbag in office as long as it’s their own brain dead scumbag.

It's also quite prophetic that many of us saw this trainwreck coming. It shouldn't be a surprise how historically inept he is.

 

[VolinWayne]

 

[JOEY’S ALL VOL !!!]

It's also quite prophetic that many of us saw this trainwreck coming. It shouldn't be a surprise how historically inept he is.

It is definitely not surprising. Any individual with an IQ above that of a ball bearing knew the dumpster fire we are witnessing was coming. It’s a true Greek tragedy that fools among us could be so astonishingly moronic as to put this shat show on public display and subject the rest of us to the insanity. Just plain sad.

 

[BowlBrother85]

No, not necessarily it doesn’t, but it does take a person “monumentally damn stupid” to pull the lever for the dipshit in office now. That is a plain and simple fact that only the most ignorant among us would deny. Party politics only on full display, the left’s solution to get rid of the President they hated was to elect a candidate that was everything they claimed Trump to be 10 times over. The evidence is overwhelming that Biden voters don’t give a damn whether there is a scumbag in office as long as it’s their own brain dead scumbag.

1) You don't have a good command of the definition of the word "fact".

2) As for the last sentence, you really can say the exact same thing about Republicans for nominating Donald Trump.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Didn't Yang and others encourage people to move to Georgia during the runoff elections

As some January 6th Capitol rioters are finding out, if someone encourages you to break the law and you do it... you have still broken the law. The "I was just following orders" defense has never gotten anyone out of trouble.

 

[Wireless1]

Despite inflation, I am doing better financially now than at any point during the Trump years.

You an immigration lawyer? Pfizer rep?

 

[BowlBrother85]

More information is needed to reasonably conclude that the people shown in those videos were in violation of Georgia's voting laws in 2020. The political pundits on Charlie Kirk's show are referring to a woman in the first video as being a "mule", and Liz Harrington is accusing the same woman of "stuffing the ballot box." They are way out of line if that video is their only source of evidence to support such serious allegations.

Table 10: Ballot Collection Laws

^^^^ PLEASE CLICK ON THIS LINK AND READ THE PART NEXT TO GEORGIA !!!! ^^^^

That link is to the National Conference of State Legislatures (www.NCSL.org). It is a non-partisan site, which simply details the laws in their respective jurisdictions. The date on the link is 1/6/2022, so it is relevant to the 2020 elections.

Code Section 21-2-385 of Georgia election law, explains that family members or roommates can mail or deliver ballots for each other. Also, those political pundits falsely assert in the 2nd video that election laws in Georgia placed a limit on the number of ballots which could be deposited in the same voting drop box location by a single person at one time. At least as of the 2020 election cycle, Georgia's laws did not specify any such restrictions on ballot collection and/or ballot drop box deposits. The political pundits on Charlie Kirk's show, who can be heard in those videos, are either ignorant of Georgia's voting laws, as they were written in 2020, or they are lying. I suspect it's the latter. As far as Liz Harrington is concerned, she is drawing some very serious conclusions with limited information at her disposal. As long as those ballots belong to their family members, then those people shown in the videos are doing nothing wrong.

Here is what the law in Georgia said, as of the November 2020 elections, as detailed in the link "Table 10: Ballot Collection Laws", from up above. :


Georgia Code Ann., 21-2-385

Under the 1st column entitled :

Who Can Return an Absentee / Mail Ballot on Behalf of a Voter?

"A family member (including grandparent, grandchild, uncle, aunt, niece, nephew, and in-laws), household member or caregiver. A jail or other detention facility employee may return a ballot on behalf of a voter in custody."

Under the 2nd column entitled :

Other Time or Quantity Restrictions

"Not Specified"

 

[Tnslim1]

Gentlemen, it does absolutely no good to try to reason with the liberal left as their game is to bring you all the way down to their level of intelligence and beat you into submission with stupidity. If one could actually reason with a democrat there would be no democrats.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Gentlemen, it does absolutely no good to try to reason with the liberal left as their game is to bring you all the way down to their level of intelligence and beat you into submission with stupidity. If one could actually reason with a democrat there would be no democrats.

Right.

Avoiding constructive discourse with a pretentious ramble, in the form of an ad hominem attack, is the way mature adults should interact with people who disagree with them.

 

[Septic]

That shows a woman putting ballots in a box. That's it. Unless you know for certain the ballots weren't for her spouse, parents etc. then your certainty claims are just opinion and want.

It must make for good television and to feed the irrational big lie, fakenews you love to pretend to abhor, but these bozos are shoveling opinion to you gift wrapped as fact. You're seeing and believing what you want to see and believe in that video without a modicum of real evidence that anything nefarious is going on.

 

[BowlBrother85]

That shows a woman putting ballots in a box. That's it. Unless you know for certain the ballots weren't for her spouse, parents etc. then your certainty claims are just opinion and want.

It must make for good television and to feed the irrational big lie, fakenews you love to pretend to abhor, but these bozos are shoveling opinion to you gift wrapped as fact. You're seeing and believing what you want to see and believe in that video without a modicum of real evidence that anything nefarious is going on.

Watch the 2nd video, Charlie Kirk and the two political pundits on his show claim that in the state of Georgia, you can only deposit two ballots in a drop box at the same time. They say that it is only legal to drop off your ballot, and the ballot of one relative at the same time and drop box location. That was simply not true. At least as of the 2020 election cycle, the state of Georgia placed no such restrictions concerning the quantity of ballots being deposited at a single time and place.

The link to The National Conference of State Legislatures site below proves that point :

Table 10: Ballot Collection Laws

So, are Charlie Kirk and his pundits ignorant, lazy or dishonest? It has to be one of those 3 ... or some combination of them.

This often happens with right wing posters such as @VolinWayne, because they take everything they want to believe at face value. They never fact check anything before posting it, as long as it advances a desired Republican Party narrative for them.

 

[VolinWayne]

More information is needed to reasonably conclude that the people shown in those videos were in violation of Georgia's voting laws in 2020. The political pundits on Charlie Kirk's show are referring to a woman in the first video as being a "mule", and Liz Harrington is accusing the same woman of "stuffing the ballot box." They are way out of line if that video is their only source of evidence to support such serious allegations.

Table 10: Ballot Collection Laws

^^^^ PLEASE CLICK ON THIS LINK AND READ THE PART NEXT TO GEORGIA !!!! ^^^^

That link is to the National Conference of State Legislatures (www.NCSL.org). It is a non-partisan site, which simply details the laws in their respective jurisdictions. The date on the link is 1/6/2022, so it is relevant to the 2020 elections.

Code Section 21-2-385 of Georgia election law, explains that family members or roommates can mail or deliver ballots for each other. Also, those political pundits falsely assert in the 2nd video that election laws in Georgia placed a limit on the number of ballots which could be deposited in the same voting drop box location by a single person at one time. At least as of the 2020 election cycle, Georgia's laws did not specify any such restrictions on ballot collection and/or ballot drop box deposits. The political pundits on Charlie Kirk's show, who can be heard in those videos, are either ignorant of Georgia's voting laws, as they were written in 2020, or they are lying. I suspect it's the latter. As far as Liz Harrington is concerned, she is drawing some very serious conclusions with limited information at her disposal. As long as those ballots belong to their family members, then those people shown in the videos are doing nothing wrong.

Here is what the law in Georgia said, as of the November 2020 elections, as detailed in the link "Table 10: Ballot Collection Laws", from up above. :


Georgia Code Ann., 21-2-385

Under the 1st column entitled :

Who Can Return an Absentee / Mail Ballot on Behalf of a Voter?

"A family member (including grandparent, grandchild, uncle, aunt, niece, nephew, and in-laws), household member or caregiver. A jail or other detention facility employee may return a ballot on behalf of a voter in custody."

Under the 2nd column entitled :

Other Time or Quantity Restrictions

"Not Specified"

I love the way both you and Septic conveniently leave out the part where the did and open records search and there was no applications or forms filled out in Gwinnett County for "ballot assistors" which means this was illegal.

A person authorized by the voter. If the ballot is from a physically incapacitated elector, an employee or person under the direction of the facility in which the voter is located may deliver to the ballot must be authorized on the ballot by the voter to do so.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I love the way both you and Septic conveniently leave out the part where the did and open records search and there was no applications or forms filled out in Gwinnett County for "ballot assistors" which means this was illegal.

A person authorized by the voter. If the ballot is from a physically incapacitated elector, an employee or person under the direction of the facility in which the voter is located may deliver to the ballot must be authorized on the ballot by the voter to do so.

A "ballot assistor" refers to someone who is helping another voter fill out their ballot. A "ballot assistor" is NOT someone who simply collects an already completed ballot from a family member and then either mails it for them or drops it off for them at the appropriate designated ballot drop box location.

We are also not talking about physically incapacitated voters either. You are trying to change the subject. It's a dishonest ploy of yours.

There was no legal requirement to fill out a ballot assistor application in the state of Georgia during the 2020 elections, for people who were just collecting already completed ballots from family members, and then taking those ballots to the appropriate designated ballot drop box locations and depositing them in the right place.

Vote by Absentee Ballot

Therefore, you can not prove that the people in those videos were breaking any laws, without knowing whose ballots they were dropping off... and there is no way to know that.

 

[VolinWayne]

There was no such legal requirement in the state of Georgia during the 2020 elections, if all you were doing was collecting already completed ballots from family members, and then taking those ballots to the appropriate designated ballot drop box locations and depositing them in the right place.

Vote by Absentee Ballot

You can not prove that the people in those videos were breaking any laws, without knowing whose ballots they were dropping off... and there is no way to know that.

Wrong.



Georgia Code Title 21. Elections § 21-2-385 | FindLaw

(a) At any time after receiving an official absentee ballot, but before the day of the primary or election, except electors who are confined to a hospital on the day of the primary or election, the elector shall vote his or her absentee ballot, then fold the ballot and enclose and securely seal the same in the envelope on which is printed “Official Absentee Ballot.” This envelope shall then be placed in the second one, on which is printed the form of the oath of the elector;  the name and oath of the person assisting, if any;  and other required identifying information.  The elector shall then fill out, subscribe, and swear to the oath printed on such envelope.  Such envelope shall then be securely sealed and the elector shall then personally mail or personally deliver same to the board of registrars or absentee ballot clerk, provided that mailing or delivery may be made by the elector's mother, father, grandparent, aunt, uncle, brother, sister, spouse, son, daughter, niece, nephew, grandchild, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, mother-in-law, father-in-law, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, or an individual residing in the household of such elector.  The absentee ballot of a disabled elector may be mailed or delivered by the caregiver of such disabled elector, regardless of whether such caregiver resides in such disabled elector's household.  The absentee ballot of an elector who is in custody in a jail or other detention facility may be mailed or delivered by any employee of such jail or facility having custody of such elector.  An elector who is confined to a hospital on a primary or election day to whom an absentee ballot is delivered by the registrar or absentee ballot clerk shall then and there vote the ballot, seal it properly, and return it to the registrar or absentee ballot clerk.  If the elector registered to vote for the first time in this state by mail and has not previously provided the identification required by Code Section 21-2-220 and votes for the first time by absentee ballot and fails to provide the identification required by Code Section 21-2-220 with such absentee ballot, such absentee ballot shall be treated as a provisional ballot and shall be counted only if the registrars are able to verify the identification and registration of the elector during the time provided pursuant to Code Section 21-2-419 .

The person rendering assistance to the elector in preparing the ballot shall sign the oath printed on the same envelope as the oath to be signed by the elector.   Any person who willfully violates this subsection shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be sentenced to imprisonment for not less than one nor more than ten years or to pay a fine not to exceed $100,000.00, or both, for each such violation.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

There was no such legal requirement in the state of Georgia during the 2020 elections, if all you were doing was collecting already completed ballots from family members, and then taking those ballots to the appropriate designated ballot drop box locations and depositing them in the right place.

Vote by Absentee Ballot

You can not prove that the people in those videos were breaking any laws, without knowing whose ballots they were dropping off... and there is no way to know that.

It is easier to claim felonies without any support. Most of the populace will not bother to look up the law themselves.

 

[VolinWayne]

It is easier to claim felonies without any support. Most of the populace will not bother to look up the law themselves.

See my post above. Without proper documentation this is a felony in Ga.