Props to Coach Harper

[glv98]

I take middle ground here. I always thought hiring KJH was a risk. Unfortunately, while she's been amazing at restoring culture, she's earned her national reputation for being "consistently underwhelming" in two important areas, winning games against ranked teams and recruiting.

There are million reasons for that, some her fault and many not. It's just hard to look at all available evidence and still be optimistic that KJH will be able to help the program get back to championship level. I want that to happen more than anything bc she's been a fave of mine for years and she seems such a genuine good, caring, ethical person.

In case it doesn't happen, the next hire ( which I believe would be end of next year very earliest) absolutely has to be right. It's a hard decision between not wanting the program to go down any further and not taking a risk on another "project" hire. Replacement does often depend on who's available at that time. In this case it needs to be a home run hire and it can't take a long time or it will look like no one wants the job or we're not willing to pay and things will be even worse. That's a very tall AD order.

We can bloviate all day about firing now, but in real life there have to be viable replacement candidates.

 

[Majors]

You meant blue font here, right?

I believe UCLA did offer, UT offered more to stay. It's how folks provide for future generations of thier families.

Jerk? One of the last major college coaches never accused of a whiff of scandal. Universally respected throughout the game. Most importantly, Rick is the only coach I know of whose players love him as much or more than Kellie Harper.

It would be a good thing if Kellie was courted by other schools. Means we are winning and other programs are noticing.

 

[glv98]

It would be a good thing if Kellie was courted by other schools. Means we are winning and other programs are noticing.

Of course. Was that in question?

 

[Majors]

Of course. Was that in question?

No, because she’s not getting the courting calls.

 

[FormerLadyVolFan]

Gee, do you have to keep coming up with more ways to criticize our coach? How do you know she doesn't get those calls?

The only 'courting call' of an existing top 25 coach that I can ever remember being disclosed was Jeff Walz's fraudulent claim that he was a candidate for the UT job when Holly was fired. That was put in the public domain by him and his agent to force Louisville's troubled AD to give him a raise and extension.

BTW, Jeff Walz lost to MTSU by 18 points last December, too...

No, because she’s not getting the courting calls.

 

[Majors]

Gee, do you have to keep coming up with more ways to criticize our coach? How do you know she doesn't get those calls?

The only 'courting call' of an existing top 25 coach that I can ever remember being disclosed was Jeff Walz's fraudulent claim that he was a candidate for the UT job when Holly was fired. That was put in the public domain by him and his agent to force Louisville's troubled AD to give him a raise and extension.

BTW, Jeff Walz lost to MTSU by 18 points last December, too...

I’ve been pretty consistent in saying she’s in over her head. Not sure that making up a new way. I didn’t ask the question, I just had a response. Not sure where Waltz comes into play, I guess congratulations are in order to him on the pay raise and MTSU on winning games that matter to them. Just to flex your “connections” for the board…please say which schools she’s been contacted by. Always said she would do well at Tennessee Tech or similar.

 

[River67]

Gee, do you have to keep coming up with more ways to criticize our coach? How do you know she doesn't get those calls?

The only 'courting call' of an existing top 25 coach that I can ever remember being disclosed was Jeff Walz's fraudulent claim that he was a candidate for the UT job when Holly was fired. That was put in the public domain by him and his agent to force Louisville's troubled AD to give him a raise and extension.

BTW, Jeff Walz lost to MTSU by 18 points last December, too...

People hollering that Kellie can’t close, but she’s really not the one who has to close, it’s Terri Holder and the BHC and that’s a fact

 

[Majors]

People hollering that Kellie can’t close, but she’s really not the one who has to close, it’s Terri Holder and the BHC and that’s a fact

Be ready to discuss your finances and how you’ve helped to close.

 

[Lucy]

As for me I am going to take a unique approach,,,,I am going to see if this team, and Coach Kellie, have indeed taken a turn towards betterment.

Yes we have had two very sluggish starts against two questionable opponents, but we have also shown the ability to overwhelm these same opponents.

What will happen in games to come?
Is it a trend or a deviation?
Is it coaching or players creating each circumstance?

I am going to let what I see in the future decide my assertions towards Coach Kellie's future

I’m all for everyone having their own opinions and a place (here) to express them. But, honestly you sound like you will be delivering the Ten Commandments on stone tablets complete with a burning bush. Just say you see some good, some bad and are of two minds about Kellie!
The AD is not coming on here to see what anyone thinks!

 

[chuckiepoo]

I’m all for everyone having their own opinions and a place (here) to express them. But, honestly you sound like you will be delivering the Ten Commandments on stone tablets complete with a burning bush. Just say you see some good, some bad and are of two minds about Kellie!
The AD is not coming on here to see what anyone thinks!

I thought DW was like Santa Claus…
…gonna find out who’s naughty or nice.

 

[Lucy]

You meant blue font here, right?

I believe UCLA did offer, UT offered more to stay. It's how folks provide for future generations of thier families.

Jerk? One of the last major college coaches never accused of a whiff of scandal. Universally respected throughout the game. Most importantly, Rick is the only coach I know of whose players love him as much or more than Kellie Harper.

No blue font at all. He has no loyalty to a school that hired him after he was fired.
I understand the players really like him and I’m glad they do. To me, however, when I see him interviewed he comes off as arrogant and smug. Just my opinion of what I see.

 

[woodpusher]

That wasn’t the question? You asked “Who do you want to see as the next coach for this team ?”. The first step before playing the gotcha name game is removing one holding the title. Fans shouldn’t be subjected to your last line out of fear. “If you don't have a viable answer to that question, then your answer is CKJH” In year 20 that’s not the answer.

It’s been stated before and not sure anyone should or would disagree, CKH holds the position because of where she went to school. Had she gone to Tennessee Tech, ETSU, MTSU and worked her way through the coaching ranks the same way she’s not coaching here based off her resume.

The stars lined up that year too. She made the round of 16 at Missouri State - similar situation to Bruce Pearl's run with Wisconsin-Milwaukee. She was certain to get a better offer from somewhere -- it just happened to be Tennessee.

 

[Majors]

The stars lined up that year too. She made the round of 16 at Missouri State - similar situation to Bruce Pearl's run with Wisconsin-Milwaukee. She was certain to get a better offer from somewhere -- it just happened to be Tennessee.

Pearl was taking a program that fired Buzz Peterson. Can you direct me to the other schools we were in a battle with to secure her? I don’t seem to recall other schools in the picture. Only similarities is Kellie is more Buzz Peterson.

Pearl had to serve his time for being blackballed with his dealing on turning in Illinois.

 

[mudcat1973]

No,,,you want me to be abnormal
not gonna

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That’s just CJ being Coach. I’ve learned he means well. I’ve also learned he’s rather…confident.

Notice in replays that Sam / Liz / joy were coaching players during time outs.
There a fourth assistant coach on the staff. On utsports it said Liz help on the last two recruiting classes out of the transfer portal .
Seen her talking to players during time outs. So did a little investigating.
John was coaching to. Jon get talk about enough so .
I didn't want to leave him out

Anyway rocky top area lower section was pretty full. Still like to know how many can Lady Vols basketball put in the lower section of Thomson bowling ?
Crowd was loud and engaged in the game.

Kellie still has the crowd and her team support.

 

[VolFuture]

Daily womp womp at this thread

 

[woodpusher]

Pearl was taking a program that fired Buzz Peterson. Can you direct me to the other schools we were in a battle with to secure her? I don’t seem to recall other schools in the picture. Only similarities is Kellie is more Buzz Peterson.

Pearl had to serve his time for being blackballed with his dealing on turning in Illinois.

I'm just a casual fan, but my observation is that if a coach from a less prestigious program makes it to the round of 16, he or she gets offers from more prestigious programs.
I hadn't heard of Bruce Pearl before his UW-Milwaukee run.

If Kellie goes 10-25 instead of 25-10 in 2018-19, she doesn't get an offer.

 

[Volfaninfl2]

I take middle ground here. I always thought hiring KJH was a risk. Unfortunately, while she's been amazing at restoring culture, she's earned her national reputation for being "consistently underwhelming" in two important areas, winning games against ranked teams and recruiting.

There are million reasons for that, some her fault and many not. It's just hard to look at all available evidence and still be optimistic that KJH will be able to help the program get back to championship level. I want that to happen more than anything bc she's been a fave of mine for years and she seems such a genuine good, caring, ethical person.

In case it doesn't happen, the next hire ( which I believe would be end of next year very earliest) absolutely has to be right. It's a hard decision between not wanting the program to go down any further and not taking a risk on another "project" hire. Replacement does often depend on who's available at that time. In this case it needs to be a home run hire and it can't take a long time or it will look like no one wants the job or we're not willing to pay and things will be even worse. That's a very tall AD order.

We can bloviate all day about firing now, but in real life there have to be viable replacement candidates.

"Props to you" is a colloquial phrase that is used to show respect, admiration, or appreciation for someone's actions, achievements, or qualities. The word "props" is short for "proper respect," but is only really used as part of the phrase "props to you".

This thread was supposed to be about Props to Coach Harper. For years you have talked about replacing Coach Kellie in the very long bash Kellie thread. Not everyone, including me, want to read replace Kellie comments in every thread. Please respect that.

 

[Coach Jumper]

"Props to you" is a colloquial phrase that is used to show respect, admiration, or appreciation for someone's actions, achievements, or qualities. The word "props" is short for "proper respect," but is only really used as part of the phrase "props to you".

This thread was supposed to be about Props to Coach Harper. For years you have talked about replacing Coach Kellie in the very long bash Kellie thread. Not everyone, including me, want to read replace Kellie comments in every thread. Please respect that.

game threads are supposed to be about games,,,Nothing on this site stays in its lane
You know this
starting ANY thread is an endeavor in futility

 

[chuckiepoo]

game threads are supposed to be about games,,,Nothing on this site stays in its lane
You know this
starting ANY thread is an endeavor in futility

 

[chuckiepoo]

"Props to you" is a colloquial phrase that is used to show respect, admiration, or appreciation for someone's actions, achievements, or qualities. The word "props" is short for "proper respect," but is only really used as part of the phrase "props to you".

This thread was supposed to be about Props to Coach Harper. For years you have talked about replacing Coach Kellie in the very long bash Kellie thread. Not everyone, including me, want to read replace Kellie comments in every thread. Please respect that.

Commendable effort, but *sigh* we have no husky Nan.

 

[Volfan1000]

I've been one of Kellie's biggest critics, but I also want to give credit where it's due. She lit a fire at halftime the past two games and led them to incredible second halfs.

She recognized Puckett was a liability today and got her out of the game. Tough as a coach when players are inconsistent, but she's done a much better job of creating on court chemistry. Of course Rickea helps with that as well...

Harper probably knows that she is on the hot seat this season.

 

[mudcat1973]

Harper probably knows that she is on the hot seat this season.

May get extra year add to her contact after sweet sixteen NCAA tournament run.

 

[chuckiepoo]

May get extra year add to her contact after sweet sixteen NCAA tournament run.

EE? FF anyone?

 

[mudcat1973]

EE? FF anyone?

As in tennis all about the brackets .
If Tennessee doesn't get a top 4 seed NCAA basketball then getting to sweet sixteen harder on the road.But with no injury's Tennessee can make a sweet sixteen NCAA on the road.4/5 seed you hit a # 1seed on in the 3 round.
Getting a 6 seed means going through the 11seed then 3seed then 2 seed to get to EE round .
Six seed makes it harder to get to a sweet sixteen NCAA but more likely to get pass and make EE round than a 4/5seed.. So 6/7 seed means getting pass 2 and 3seeds but you don't have play the #1 seed.
With the right bracket and a 6/7 seed Tennessee could give Kellie her first EE NCAA round. Anything possible if that happens.

 

[glv98]

"Props to you" is a colloquial phrase that is used to show respect, admiration, or appreciation for someone's actions, achievements, or qualities. The word "props" is short for "proper respect," but is only really used as part of the phrase "props to you".

This thread was supposed to be about Props to Coach Harper. For years you have talked about replacing Coach Kellie in the very long bash Kellie thread. Not everyone, including me, want to read replace Kellie comments in every thread. Please respect that.

Sorry to offend. First, I have not talked about "replacing" Kellie for years, I actually hope that does not become necessary as I said in my post. Also, as far as not exactly following thread topic, there are relatively very few active posters on this forum and conversation often wanders. Instead of starting dozens of new topics, we generally just follow the flow. Again, sorry if that offends.