Protesters hurl slurs and spit at Democrats

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VolInMn said:
So it's cool with you that some in the crowd were calling lawmakers n*ggers?
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Is this Freshmen Debate?

You know that is not at all what I said. Cheap debate tactic.

1. I doubt the veracity of the story

most importantly

2. Even if true, it is an isolated incident by a moron. It in no way characterizes the opposition to HC anymore than a dumb arse lib busting out windows of a company or hanging Bush in effigy characterizes Dems.


This whole "outrage" is the weakest political argument I've seen to date.
 
#29
#29
I'm calling BS on this; the Dems know this whole ordeal is extremely unpopular with the majority of the public, so they are just pulling out the old race card in an attempt to sway public favor.

Even if some moron did do that, it in no way validates the idiotic healthcare plan they are trying to pass.
 
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#30
Intersting read

Wake up Black America: So liberals don't use the race card against people who dare oppose Barack Obama right?

About the author:

My name is Tyrone. I’m 33 years old. I grew up and still live in the city of Baltimore; I’m an American of African decent. Baltimore is the 16th most liberal city in America. That would explain why it's the #1 slum in the state of Maryland and the nation. I've been a registered Republican for about 6 years, and I've been a conservative longer then that. In Yahoo Political Chat 7, I go by the screen names of Presto2112_72,Brilliant Conservative Brother, Alpha Conservative Male and The Notorious GOP. I’m a member of the Maryland Republican Party and the National GOP. I thank god everyday for allowing me to be born in America. God Bless our military fighting overseas to protect our interests, spread democracy and freedom. Honor those who made the ultimate sacrifice for liberty and the American way.
"
 
#31
#31
Name calling would be about 1/100000000000th less offensive than what the people supporting today's activities are doing.
 
#32
#32
volinbham said:
Is this Freshmen Debate?

You know that is not at all what I said. Cheap debate tactic.

1. I doubt the veracity of the story

most importantly

2. Even if true, it is an isolated incident by a moron. It in no way characterizes the opposition to HC anymore than a dumb arse lib busting out windows of a company or hanging Bush in effigy characterizes Dems.


This whole "outrage" is the weakest political argument I've seen to date.
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1. I agree it has nothing to do with the health care debate.

2. While I agree that the actual blurting out of the word was singular and that not all fo the Tea Party people did it, I think it is a mistake to conclude that the person who did it is alone in the sentiment. I am convinced that a fairly healthy slice of the Tea Party people completely buy into the connotation of the epithet, even if the vast majority have the good sense not to say the word.

They may delude themselves into thinking that they believe it, not because they are stereotyping, but because they are just being observant about economic classes. In the end, however, they believe the stereotype.

These things ebb and flow. As tensions rise, so do the sinister and cynical suspicions and resentments.

This is why people like Glenn Beck, who has been spewing hate and vile commentary laced with religious rhetoric all week long, are both so successful and so dangerous. Beck makes a living trading on those emotions, raising the fear quotient of the uninformed who take their cues from him, welling up the resentment to a point just below the surface.

Until someone just can't stand it and it overflows their inhibitions and they say what so many of their kinship in Tea Party have managed to keep just below the surface.
 
#35
#35
Power Line - The R-Card

two videos are provided and while "kill the bill" can be heard, no racial epithets are heard.

typical of the left, if they're opposed using their own patented methods, it must be because of racism.
 
#36
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lawgator1 said:
1. I agree it has nothing to do with the health care debate.

2. While I agree that the actual blurting out of the word was singular and that not all fo the Tea Party people did it, I think it is a mistake to conclude that the person who did it is alone in the sentiment. I am convinced that a fairly healthy slice of the Tea Party people completely buy into the connotation of the epithet, even if the vast majority have the good sense not to say the word.

They may delude themselves into thinking that they believe it, not because they are stereotyping, but because they are just being observant about economic classes. In the end, however, they believe the stereotype.

These things ebb and flow. As tensions rise, so do the sinister and cynical suspicions and resentments.

This is why people like Glenn Beck, who has been spewing hate and vile commentary laced with religious rhetoric all week long, are both so successful and so dangerous. Beck makes a living trading on those emotions, raising the fear quotient of the uninformed who take their cues from him, welling up the resentment to a point just below the surface.

Until someone just can't stand it and it overflows their inhibitions and they say what so many of their kinship in Tea Party have managed to keep just below the surface.
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So in complaining about a group of people stereotyping and proclaiming "I know that's how they feel", you in turn stereotype a movement.

Nice going.
 
#37
#37
VolsSportsFan said:
So in complaining about a group of people stereotyping and proclaiming "I know that's how they feel", you in turn stereotype a movement.

Nice going.
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People choose to be members of or associated with the Tea Party. People choose to be ignorant, racist, and dupe pawns of the insurance companies.

People do not choose to be a member of a racial minority, nor do they choose to be tagged with the history of the generations that came before them.

You thought you were clever.

And of course made an analogy that failed.

Epically.

Typical.
 
#39
#39
It's really strange that nobody turned their heads when someone supposedly yelled that.
 
#40
#40
golfballs03 said:
It's really strange that nobody turned their heads when someone supposedly yelled that.
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First, you assume that the news cameras caught all of the comments.

Second, even Fox News was acknowledging that it happened. You know that if there was any hope of denying it had happened they would have been all over it with so-called news headlines like "Did black Congressman make up claims of racism?" Who do they think they are fooling with these loaded questions?

Third, the last thing these Congresspeople are going to do is turn around and engage such people in debate or even minimal conversation. Let the Tea Party protestors go ahead and prove what we have all suspected all along -- that they are living in a world that passed their value systems by around 50 years ago.
 
#43
#43
lawgator1 said:
1. I agree it has nothing to do with the health care debate.

2. While I agree that the actual blurting out of the word was singular and that not all fo the Tea Party people did it, I think it is a mistake to conclude that the person who did it is alone in the sentiment. I am convinced that a fairly healthy slice of the Tea Party people completely buy into the connotation of the epithet, even if the vast majority have the good sense not to say the word.

They may delude themselves into thinking that they believe it, not because they are stereotyping, but because they are just being observant about economic classes. In the end, however, they believe the stereotype.

These things ebb and flow. As tensions rise, so do the sinister and cynical suspicions and resentments.

This is why people like Glenn Beck, who has been spewing hate and vile commentary laced with religious rhetoric all week long, are both so successful and so dangerous. Beck makes a living trading on those emotions, raising the fear quotient of the uninformed who take their cues from him, welling up the resentment to a point just below the surface.

Until someone just can't stand it and it overflows their inhibitions and they say what so many of their kinship in Tea Party have managed to keep just below the surface.
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When have you ever listened to Glen Beck? I watched him this week and never once heard him spew hate.
 
#46
#46
lawgator1 said:
Let the Tea Party protestors go ahead and prove what we have all suspected all along -- that they are living in a world that passed their value systems by around 50 years ago.
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you didn't really hit the mark last time you made predictions about the tea party movement but I'm sure you'll do better this time
 
#48
#48
utvolpj said:
you didn't really hit the mark last time you made predictions about the tea party movement but I'm sure you'll do better this time
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I predict that they will be further energized and that the rhetoric will be ratcheted up even further.

I predict that, before the elections in Congress this upcoming season, someone from the Tea Party movement will fire a gunshot at a Democrat.

And like that fellow who flew his plane into the IRS building, you will hear the rest of them say "I abhor what he has done. There is no justification for that. But, I can understand how he feels ...."
 
#49
#49
MG1968 said:
Power Line - The R-Card

two videos are provided and while "kill the bill" can be heard, no racial epithets are heard.

typical of the left, if they're opposed using their own patented methods, it must be because of racism.
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While the right uses nothing but fear when they are opposed.

I am sorry I know some Tea Party people here in Knoxville. All I can say they are for a fact very racist and very vocal about it.
 
#50
#50
Vol Karma said:
While the right uses nothing but fear when they are opposed.

I am sorry I know some Tea Party people here in Knoxville. All I can say they are for a fact very racist and very vocal about it.
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For the record, certainly not ALL are. But there is a much larger number than would be stupid enough to actually throw out such a term. The resentment they feel toward Obama, and the ease with which they can be tricked into thinking he is a Secret Agent Muslim Socialist Nazi is mind boggling.
 
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