QB competition..

#26
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It's gonna be Worley, guys.

"Worley again got the opening snaps with the first-team offense and again responded in kind. The senior from Rock Hill, S.C., arced a 25-yard touchdown to Jason Croom down the right sideline for an early score. Perhaps even more impressive, Worley --- with the offense backed up to its 1-yard line --- came out firing. His first toss to Josh Smith was well placed but Smith juggled it just enough to allow the defender to break up the pass."
 
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"Worley again got the opening snaps with the first-team offense and again responded in kind.The senior from Rock Hill, S.C., arced a 25-yard touchdown to Jason Croom down the right sideline for an early score. Perhaps even more impressive, Worley --- with the offense backed up to its 1-yard line --- came out firing. His first toss to Josh Smith was well placed but Smith juggled it just enough to allow the defender to break up the pass."

sigh....a scholarship to catch a football.....so catch the d*mn football :)
 
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I have no official updates but if someone does they're welcome to share them.

I'd like to say that just from personal opinion and by watching the practice videos of late I think the leaders remain to be Worley and Dobbs.

I think Ferg and Peterman are just going to be watching the two big dogs compete.

If you can tell who the leaders are off these short spring vids then you should go be a scout or coach somewhere.
 
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Isn't Dobbs the only one of the four who can actually run a little--and he's not exactly Mr. Elusive, to put it mildly. Worley and Peterman aren't really runners, right. Not sure about Ferguson, but don't think he is either. I'm not really sure, then, why we run the read option. Defenses will get the hint that our QBs don't run.

Peterman surely has some talent but it's hard to forget the florida game that might have been one of UT's worst QB performances ever. Ferguson has zero experience--are we going to go through another year of that? Worley is savvy but limited, and he's a senior. All things considered Dobbs makes the most sense, but of course he's got to prove he's got the goods. It will be a huge decision for Jones.


I'm not sure what grade I would assign Josh in terms of "escape-ability," but there can be no question regarding his productivity on the ground. Even taking sack yardage (-74) into consideration, Josh amassed 189 yards rushing in 4.5 games, for a 5.0 yards-per-carry average (UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics - Football). He finished as the third leading ball carrier last season. If those stats were projected over the course of a full season, they would give Josh somewhere between 500-600 yards, which is monumental for a Tennessee quarterback.

I don't believe that we have had a signal caller run the ball that effectively since Jimmy Streater, in 1978, compiled 593 yards on 146 carries (4.1 ave.), for 10 touchdowns (1978 Tennessee Volunteers Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com). By comparison, Tee Martin ran for 287 and 317 yards, respectively, in 1998 and 1999 (1998 Tennessee Volunteers Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com and 1999 Tennessee Volunteers Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com). Similarly, Heath Shuler amassed 286 yards and 11 touchdowns in 1992, his most productive year on the ground (1992 Tennessee Volunteers Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com).
 
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Yesterday’s practice was more about wet ball handling. Whirlybird and Rifleman held onto it better.

Don’t read too much into who took snaps with the 1st and 2nd teams. The QBs have been rotated before, probably will be again. Though henceforth, based on film assessments of their field performances. So says the coaches.

As many know, I’m all Dobb Goblin but both trust the coaches’ choice and prefer whoever gives us the best chances of winning. If he has to switch QBs depending on who we play, so be it. Or stay with one man, so be it. I still believe the Dobb Goblin will emerge as The Man, though.

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Worley and Peterman aren't really runners, right. --armchair

Whirlybird can run but I honestly believe he’s afraid to. I’m so sorry, I just can’t get that head on picture of his terrified, and I do mean terrified look on his face when running the ball in a game last season. Pumpkin Eater Peter is and was recruited as a mobile QB. He’s very mobile but like with Lane’s shiftiness, we haven’t had a chance to see it.

"And so we want them to be able to stand in the pocket. --Butch

I think this was as much a challenge for the OL to provide the QB with time as well as for the QB to exhibit patience and guts. The QB has to see the play unfold and not go bolting at the first sign of trouble. The great thing about Bray (and Dobbs seems to have some of that)was sidestepping charging DL-men while keeping his eyes down the field to hit an open WR. Butch wants this from our current Qbs. Field vision, I think he calls it.

Peterman did not commit a turnover, but coaches routinely pointed out to Peterman that he held onto the ball too long. He was sacked more than any of the Vols' other quarterbacks, though Peterman also showed some scrambling ability when he converted back-to-back third-and-10 situations. --Volquest

Matt Simms 2.0? Not sure what to make of this. Unless he was seeking to obey Butch’s “stay put” orders for field vision drills. In effect, displeasing the coach while trying to please him.

Both Dobbs and Peterman were unable to push the offense off its goal line following the successful stints by Worley and Ferguson. Both series with the offense backed to its 1-yard line ended in defensive victories, per Jones. --Volquest

No matter who you are, you can’t win every battle. Next practice it could be exactly the opposite of who gets this done and who doesn’t. Any number of reasons could cause it. A missed block, a foot slip at the worst time, a bad snap, you name it.

Yet Jones also liked the group progression of the quarterbacks but continued to emphasize the catastrophic turnovers could not happen. Each of the quarterbacks' three turnovers occurred in the red zone. --Volquest

“Nuff said.

"I'll have to watch the film. I see that position overall continuing to get better and better and better," Jones said. "I've really been pleased so far with the play of all four quarterbacks. I'm very, very encouraged. I think we have a great competitive battle going there. It's an illustration when you have competition at positions, every individual if they're a great competitor, they improve. And all four of these individuals are improving." --Butch (might just be coach-speak)

I honestly think we have a bunch of QBs who, though different in style, are interchangeable parts who could win games for us no matter who is inserted. The only doubts I have are Pumpkin Eater Peter, who I also believe if uninjured would get better the longer he’s in the game. And Patrick Ashford whom we hear NOTHING about. I supposed obviously for a reason. Still you got to respect a guy who just keeps on keeping on no matter what. If nothing else, I’d like to see him in some mop up duty.

Special Note:

What got my attention the most. Kyler Kerbyson insists the OL view is that when in the red zone THEY want to run it in. This tells me the OL has an bad azz attitude of "We're going to run the ball and there's not a dayum thing you can do about it." Those were the days, we get back to that type of Tennessee OL and we're really back.
 
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#36
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It's gonna be Worley, guys.

If this is true expect an under achieving season and us to be in the same boat with QBs next year. Yeah he beat USCe and he's a senior but outside of that he has not done much else. I believe they need to get Dobbs or Riley in their and solidify that starting spot for the future. Cause honestly Worley hasn't separated himself at all since this time last season.
 
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I just don't see how Ferguson could be anywhere near as physically developed as the other players with his leg injury. Wearing that boot for months really sets you back.

Sometime you will have to realize that Ferguson is going to be Tennessee's QB.
 
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Isn't Dobbs the only one of the four who can actually run a little--and he's not exactly Mr. Elusive, to put it mildly. Worley and Peterman aren't really runners, right. Not sure about Ferguson, but don't think he is either. I'm not really sure, then, why we run the read option. Defenses will get the hint that our QBs don't run.

Peterman surely has some talent but it's hard to forget the florida game that might have been one of UT's worst QB performances ever. Ferguson has zero experience--are we going to go through another year of that? Worley is savvy but limited, and he's a senior. All things considered Dobbs makes the most sense, but of course he's got to prove he's got the goods. It will be a huge decision for Jones.

Worley and Ferguson had long runs in the scrimmage yesterday. Maybe they are the only ones who can run.
 
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#41
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Dobbs does not have the IT factor that we need, has a bad arm and plays like a timid rabbit. You can always see a spark in a future great true freshman.... I saw nothing in Dobbs. Worley is average with a low ceiling.... let's all hope Fergy lives up to the hype.
 
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I'm not sure what grade I would assign Josh in terms of "escape-ability," but there can be no question regarding his productivity on the ground. Even taking sack yardage (-74) into consideration, Josh amassed 189 yards rushing in 4.5 games, for a 5.0 yards-per-carry average (UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics - Football). He finished as the third leading ball carrier last season. If those stats were projected over the course of a full season, they would give Josh somewhere between 500-600 yards, which is monumental for a Tennessee quarterback.

I don't believe that we have had a signal caller run the ball that effectively since Jimmy Streater, in 1978, compiled 593 yards on 146 carries (4.1 ave.), for 10 touchdowns (1978 Tennessee Volunteers Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com). By comparison, Tee Martin ran for 287 and 317 yards, respectively, in 1998 and 1999 (1998 Tennessee Volunteers Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com and 1999 Tennessee Volunteers Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com). Similarly, Heath Shuler amassed 286 yards and 11 touchdowns in 1992, his most productive year on the ground (1992 Tennessee Volunteers Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com).


An increase in running yardage by a QB can be a sign of weakness. This usually means that the QB did not take the time to work through his progression, e.g., Vince Young.

The big factors in this QB selection will be pocket presence, e.g, audiblies (reading the defense), elusiveness, and running his progression (getting to his check down when necessary).
 
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#43
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Dobbs does not have the IT factor that we need, has a bad arm and plays like a timid rabbit. You can always see a spark in a future great true freshman.... I saw nothing in Dobbs. Worley is average with a low ceiling.... let's all hope Fergy lives up to the hype.

So says the weatherman, the whether man says.

Seriously, I think we all are anxious to see what's put on the field and how the season will go. I hope everyone of our QBs makes a liar out of everyone of us who've said anything negative about them, me included.
 
#45
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I have no official updates but if someone does they're welcome to share them.

I'd like to say that just from personal opinion and by watching the practice videos of late I think the leaders remain to be Worley and Dobbs.

I think Ferg and Peterman are just going to be watching the two big dogs compete.



I say let the summer practices sort this thing out in August.

If it is a close race between two q.b.'s, I say start the non senior. If two q.b.'s are the same, then why play the senior ALOT? Might as well put in the other guy and let him grow for the future.

For instance: Play Worley in the Utah State game and if it gets one sided, then let the other one play some snaps.

Then in the Arkansas State game, let Worley start and play in to the early 2nd half, then let Fergy play the majority of the 2nd half.

Then name Fergy the starter for the Chattanooga game.
 
#46
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It's gonna be Worley, guys.


I would rather see Ferguson or Dobbs win the job, but as Butch as always said, he will play the QB that gives us the best chance to win, and based off of last years competition it was Worley. That's why you see him and Ferguson getting the most reps with the first team.

IMO, Worley is the starter by default until another QB does something to prove otherwise.
 
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BREAKING NEWS,it has been announced that a guy named BUTCH will name the starting QB when he's ready to.He thanks all of volnation for their input,but he will decide on what he has seen at practice.:eek:lol:
 
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