QB competition..

#76
#76
From old players that I have heard on the radio, they seem to think Ferguson is the best QB right now. They have said that he makes the right throws and has the best arm strength. I have also heard that he runs as well as any QB on the team. He is not afraid to tuck the ball and run for a first down. The players that attend practices get to stay longer than the media, so I like to hear their opinions.
 
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Titans4Vols said:
I'm not sure I ever want to see Dobbs under center for UT again. I can deal with Worley, but good lord, I don't even recall a single play I saw Dobbs make where I went "that guy is starting QB material". I know he was a freshman, but any freshman that has promise should be able to make at least a play or two that gives you hope.
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Did you watch the Bama or Mizzou games? Against Bama he threw some lasers and had good runs leading to the only score on Bama in like ten quarters. Another top ten team in Mizzou he completed 26 passes. That is great for a true freshman qb.
 
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k-town_king said:
Did you watch the Bama or Mizzou games? Against Bama he threw some lasers and had good runs leading to the only score on Bama in like ten quarters. Another top ten team in Mizzou he completed 26 passes. That is great for a true freshman qb.
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Forget it, man. Some people fully expect Harry Potter or some sorcerer's apprentice to wave a magic wand. Then a skinny freshman thrown to the SEC wolves suddenly becomes a Heisman winner, a P. Manning-J. Unitas clone, and win the Super Bowl despite the fact college teams don't play pro ball. All this, otherwise he's a failure who needs to be run out of town wearing iron boots and his mom's bathing suit. So don't waste your breath, man, some people can't hear the truth even if it was fed to them rectally.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Forget it, man. Some people fully expect Harry Potter or some sorcerer's apprentice to wave a magic wand. Then a skinny freshman thrown to the SEC wolves suddenly becomes a Heisman winner, a P. Manning-J. Unitas clone, and win the Super Bowl despite the fact college teams don't play pro ball. All this, otherwise he's a failure who needs to be run out of town wearing iron boots and his mom's bathing suit. So don't waste your breath, man, some people can't hear the truth even if it was fed to them rectally.
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I thought he did pretty good his first two games but that Vandy game ruined it for me. He did play pretty well against UK but the bad taste in my mouth from Vandy makes me not want to try that again.
 
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Air_Force_Vol27 said:
I thought he did pretty good his first two games but that Vandy game ruined it for me. He did play pretty well against UK but the bad taste in my mouth from Vandy makes me not want to try that again.
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Seriously, I understand you and and Titan. It was bitterly disappointing to me when Vandy beat us.
I don't put it all on Dobbs. The OL wasn't all that great. i don't think he ever really was on the same page as the WRs but you could say the same for Worley. We were just too green in very important positions. But I'm not ready to throw Dobbs under the bus. It was a team failure and not just one man.
 
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#82
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I have maintained that I am in the Fergie camp. However I see positives with Dobbs and Worley. Whoever starts I will support unless they stink up the joint and then I will be yelling at the TV for CBJ to bench the bum.
 
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k-town_king said:
I said nothing about the depth chart. Also the reality is even if the RF guys don't want to accept it is that he was never ahead by the depth chart or CBJ words. He was tied with Dobbs. I'm talking about the scrimmages. Dobbs made the most plays during the game situation scrimmages last fall.

My point is still valid though. No one knows until we see them in real game action. RF is a huge unknown. People acting like he is proven or its his job to lose are delusional. He is in all likelihood behind Dobbs and Worley atm. He is the least physically ready and least experienced.
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Wow yeah Dobbs really proved himself last year. If he starts then he would definitely have improved enough to be most improved player in the country because quite frankly he sucked! From the practice videos I've seen and from all of the reports I've read from reporters who are actually attending practice sessions RF is the one who And I quote " head and shoulders above the rest as far as arm strength goes". We will see what happens.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
Uhhh.... not really, no.
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Well wish you the best. Cause he was impressive running the ball for sure. He did have lack luster arm strength, but he did work this whole offseason to improve that. I'm not sure who I want to start yet, but would be fine with either Dobbs or Worley. Ferguson could prove himself, but we have no evidence of what he can do in games yet.
 
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Air_Force_Vol27 said:
I thought he did pretty good his first two games but that Vandy game ruined it for me. He did play pretty well against UK but the bad taste in my mouth from Vandy makes me not want to try that again.
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ur take may be different if pig doesn't get the clipping call
 
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sjt18 said:
Jones seems to like to create competition even if it isn't quite as competitive as advertised. Last fall it was said to have been an open competition... yet Worley consistently went out with the 1's first, started, and was the most effective QB they had.

The constant is Worley. Sometimes one of the others shares the 1 reps... but they always seem to share them with Worley.

I know it is very popular here to hate the guy or dismiss his talent... but Jones doesn't seem to do that.
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It seems like you see Worley and Ferguson's names pop up the most. I would think they're battling it out.
 
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majorvol said:
I wish there was one that stood out above the others.
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I've heard it said in football that when you have 3 (or 4) quarterbacks, you don't have a quarterback. We've been through 1 1/2 spring practices, a fall practice, and an injury-riddled season with 4 potential QBs. None of the 4 have established themselves. There has to be a reason. And it has to do with the fact that you need an SEC-caliber QB to win in the SEC.

As I see it, we will start the 2014 season without a QB.
 
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k-town_king said:
Did you watch the Bama or Mizzou games? Against Bama he threw some lasers and had good runs leading to the only score on Bama in like ten quarters. Another top ten team in Mizzou he completed 26 passes. That is great for a true freshman qb.
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That's nice in all, but Mizzou had a terrible defense last season. Don't you recall the SECCG, Auburn moved it at will against them!
 
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albedo33 said:
I've heard it said in football that when you have 3 (or 4) quarterbacks, you don't have a quarterback. We've been through 1 1/2 spring practices, a fall practice, and an injury-riddled season with 4 potential QBs. None of the 4 have established themselves. There has to be a reason. And it has to do with the fact that you need an SEC-caliber QB to win in the SEC.

As I see it, we will start the 2014 season without a QB.
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Seems like the rest of the SEC is in the same boat we are

I'm not worried.
 
#92
#92
I expect Worley, wish for Ferg, can live with Dobbs, and will stroke out if Peterman gets the nod.
 
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#93
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gunner said:
That's nice in all, but Mizzou had a terrible defense last season. Don't you recall the SECCG, Auburn moved it at will against them!
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Wow seriously? That one game doesn't invalidate the rest of the season where they had one of the better defenses in the conference.
 
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#94
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After reading all the posts I've come to the following conclusions:
1. the race is still wide open
2. we will get a very rare SEC opportunity to put all 4 QBs in A LOT OF LIVE PLAY situations and therefore allowing us to a.) develop our QB play, and b.) find the best all around QB
3. there are alot of people on here who haven't got a clue but have posted anyway
4. I think our team overall gets much better due to this competition.
5. it could end up being any of the four at this point in time.
 
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gunner said:
That's nice in all, but Mizzou had a terrible defense last season. Don't you recall the SECCG, Auburn moved it at will against them!
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Missouri had the #2 defense in the SEC last year before the SECCG vs Auburn. Terrible? You're kidding right?
 
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Doug Matthews talked about the QBs today on his radio show in Nashville and it supported my theory. First of all, there's only been 8 Spring practices - small pool of info and a long way to the season. BUT . . . right now Worley would start - his experience helps protect the ball and not turn it over, but not a winning scenario against strong teams. Peterson has a lot to prove after Florida and the current staff did not recruit him. The future obviously is down to Fergy & Dobbs. Worley starting gives Ferguson a chance to come in and show what he can do; Dobbs had up and down freshman moments but not enough then or now to separate himself. Fergy always had the stronger arm, an Alpha male presence, and is athletic - the type you hope works out. We don't know yet, but he has all the tools to potentially be pretty good, and Dobbs won't be a terrible second choice.
 
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T_man_J said:
An increase in running yardage by a QB can be a sign of weakness. This usually means that the QB did not take the time to work through his progression, e.g., Vince Young.

The big factors in this QB selection will be pocket presence, e.g, audiblies (reading the defense), elusiveness, and running his progression (getting to his check down when necessary).
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Perhaps, but I believe more telling insights into Butch's offensive tendencies, with respect to use of the quarterback as a ball carrier, can be gained from looking at stats for his starting QBs prior to taking the job at Tennessee. Consider the following:

Cincinnati (2010-2012):
2012: Munchie Legaux 55-335 6.1 ave. 4 tds.
Brendon Kay 48-306 6.4 ave. 2 tds.
Total: 103-639 yds. 6 tds.

2011: Zach Collaros 84-234 2.8 ave. 8 tds.
Munchie Legaux 41-185 4.5 ave. 2 tds.
Total: 125-419 yds. 10 tds.

2010: Zach Collaros 121-202 1.7 ave. 4 tds.
Chazz Anderson 19-80 4.2 ave. 0 tds.
Total: 140-282 yds. 4 tds.

Central Michigan (2007-2009):
2009: Dan Lefevour 183-713 3.9 ave. 15 tds.

2008: Dan Lefevour 168-592 3.5 ave. 6 tds.

2007: Dan Lefevour 188-1122 6.0 ave. 19 tds. (Incidentally, Lefevour also passed for 3652 yds. and 27 tds. that year.).

These numbers suggest that Butch most definitely likes to use his quarterback as an integral part of the running game. Given how punishing SEC defenses are, he might be inclined to "dial it down a notch" but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Dobbs, if he should wind up as the starter, with 100 (or more) carries.
 
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#100
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VolDaddy.com said:
Pick one and go...
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I hope Fergy is the future, but Worley will start the first three games before Fergy is eased into the lineup. Worley will have to do a lot more than he did last year to hang onto the job. As long as Fergy does as well as Worley, the coaches will go with him to prepare for the future - Worley has topped out and Fergy - and Dobbs - can still improve.
 
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