QB Recruits?

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#52
Montrell Hardy said:
The staff did not have a whole lot of interest in Sims. They were recruiting him to an extent but still had never pulled the trigger on an offer.
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Every recruiting service out there has him with a UT offer. Pleas stop posting this. Here's a quote from Sims himself....

2-6-09
"I have offers from Alabama, Clemson, Tennessee, Boston College, Virginia, Virginia Tech and West Virginia," he said. "I feel LSU, Oklahoma, North Carolina and Oregon are close to offering. I can't remember the other offers, but I've got around 14 or 15."
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Every recruiting service out there has him with a UT offer. Pleas stop posting this. Here's a quote from Sims himself....

2-6-09
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I'm definitely not saying this is case here, but kids list schools giving them "offers" many times and it is not true an offer has been extended. I think we did offer, but just saying can't always depend on what kids say as offer being made... or whomever is representing them in reporting offer.
 
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#55
LWSVOL said:
I'm definitely not saying this is case here, but kids list schools giving them "offers" many times and it is not true an offer has been extended. I think we did offer, but just saying can't always depend on what kids say as offer being made... or whomever is representing them in reporting offer.
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I agree, but in this case with all the services listing offers, I don't think that guy knows what he is speaking about. Not to mention, at this point in time, if he didn't then he would be removed from the offer lists. Just happened with Ronnie Vinson.
 
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#58
Rob just said that Malone didnt have an offer, but he thought Simms did. The more I think about it the more I think Simms didnt either. (going back to what Hendrix said)
 
#59
#59
I know I have orange blinders but I can't figure out why any of the top QB recruits aren't killing themselves to come to UT. We have one of the best coaching staffs in the country, play in the SEC, best facilites, biggest crowds in the country and there is a real need for a QB to come in and play early.
It seems like we are going to miss on all three QB's that were at the top of our boards. For the life of me I can't figure out why we can't get a top QB in when we can land the best at every other position.
 
#60
#60
1994VOL said:
I know I have orange blinders but I can't figure out why any of the top QB recruits aren't killing themselves to come to UT. We have one of the best coaching staffs in the country, play in the SEC, best facilites, biggest crowds in the country and there is a real need for a QB to come in and play early.
It seems like we are going to miss on all three QB's that were at the top of our boards. For the life of me I can't figure out why we can't get a top QB in when we can land the best at every other position.
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there is are many other things that kids also consider in making college choices besides what you listed there. things like:

academics
social atmosphere
where friends are going
climate
distance from home
distance from Mom and Dad
Where is the girl friend going?

those are just a few other things and many of those could be more important to the kids and their family than those you mentioned.
 
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LWSVOL said:
there is are many other things that kids also consider in making college choices besides what you listed there. things like:

academics
social atmosphere
where friends are going
climate
distance from home
distance from Mom and Dad
Where is the girl friend going?

those are just a few other things and many of those could be more important to the kids and their family than those you mentioned.
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I understand there are many other things that go into making a college choice but when you are talking about QB's the ego tells them to go to the biggest and best which will typically cancel out many of the things you listed above.
Either way it just seems strange that we can't pull a top QB THIS YEAR since they know they would have a chance to step in and play next year!!!!
 
#62
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LWSVOL said:
I'm definitely not saying this is case here, but kids list schools giving them "offers" many times and it is not true an offer has been extended. I think we did offer, but just saying can't always depend on what kids say as offer being made... or whomever is representing them in reporting offer.
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A foreign concept around here recently, but spot on. We have to remember that often all these recruiting services can go by is what the kid tells them.
 
#63
#63
1994VOL said:
I know I have orange blinders but I can't figure out why any of the top QB recruits aren't killing themselves to come to UT. We have one of the best coaching staffs in the country, play in the SEC, best facilites, biggest crowds in the country and there is a real need for a QB to come in and play early.
It seems like we are going to miss on all three QB's that were at the top of our boards. For the life of me I can't figure out why we can't get a top QB in when we can land the best at every other position.
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As an outsider looking at your staff, I would probably love to play for the team if it's on the defensive side because of Monte Kiffin.

Not sure about the offensive side, but I know David Reaves isn't exactly a QB guru, which could potentially be a turn off. From what I read of Gamecocks' board, Reaves is a good recruiter, but an average QB coach at best. So maybe this is perhaps the reason?
 
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wwilso29 said:
The impression is that the OC Chaney and/or Kiffin will have more to do with QBs than Reaves will.
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I would be surprised if that's the case.
Kiffin is known as a coach for WR and TE at USC, but not QB. I could maybe see Kiffin discussing plays because he was a former OC, but I can't see Kiffin teaching the fundamental footwork or throws. Even for Chaney, I see him more focused on the O line and TE since that's what his past suggests. In either case, both of them have way too much duties to teach the QB. Not saying that they wouldn't, but the time would probably be marginal.

Normally, the QB coach is given the job to focus exclusively on the QBs and essentially be stuck to them at all times. If Reaves is hired the QB coach, then he is expected to coach the QB. Otherwise, why give him that title?
 
#66
#66
whsie said:
As an outsider looking at your staff, I would probably love to play for the team if it's on the defensive side because of Monte Kiffin.

Not sure about the offensive side, but I know David Reaves isn't exactly a QB guru, which could potentially be a turn off. From what I read of Gamecocks' board, Reaves is a good recruiter, but an average QB coach at best. So maybe this is perhaps the reason?
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not a bad point......:unsure:
 
#67
#67
Could it also be the fact these kids have never seen this new staffs offense. I realize its like USC's but also have to realize Chaney and browning probably have play styles that kiffin will add onto his playbook. These kids would probably jump on board if they had a year or so of UT film.
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#68
#68
bwilli40 said:
Could it also be the fact these kids have never seen this new staffs offense. I realize its like USC's but also have to realize Chaney and browning probably have play styles that kiffin will add onto his playbook. These kids would probably jump on board if they had a year or so of UT film.
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For the offensive side, I'm not sure how the RB coach is, but if I were the Vols, I would be fairly confident in the TE/WR/O Line coaches and recruiting them shouldn't be a problem.

QB position may be different because of Reaves (for the potential reasons I mentioned above).
 
#69
#69
whsie said:
For the offensive side, I'm not sure how the RB coach is, but if I were the Vols, I would be fairly confident in the TE/WR/O Line coaches and recruiting them shouldn't be a problem.

QB position may be different because of Reaves (for the potential reasons I mentioned above).
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We have one of the best Running Back coaches in the nation in Eddie Gran. He's sent a lot of backs to the NFL. The OL is almost a coach-by-committee job. Jim Chaney coaches them, Mitch Browning coaches them, and James Cregg assists as well. We may not be super-talented there this year, but those guys will get every little inch of effort and ability out of these guys as humanly possible.
 
#71
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whsie said:
I would be surprised if that's the case.
Kiffin is known as a coach for WR and TE at USC, but not QB. I could maybe see Kiffin discussing plays because he was a former OC, but I can't see Kiffin teaching the fundamental footwork or throws. Even for Chaney, I see him more focused on the O line and TE since that's what his past suggests. In either case, both of them have way too much duties to teach the QB. Not saying that they wouldn't, but the time would probably be marginal.

Normally, the QB coach is given the job to focus exclusively on the QBs and essentially be stuck to them at all times. If Reaves is hired the QB coach, then he is expected to coach the QB. Otherwise, why give him that title?
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Kiffin was a college QB at Fresno State.
 
#72
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justingroves said:
Kiffin was a college QB at Fresno State.
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Even then, he coaches TE/WR. And he's well known to teach TE/WR. But that aside, even if Kiffin is involved in teaching the QB, it should be minimal at best because he IS the HC.
 
#73
#73
whsie said:
Even then, he coaches TE/WR. And he's well known to teach TE/WR. But that aside, even if Kiffin is involved in teaching the QB, it should be minimal at best because he IS the HC.
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Someone should tell Steve Spurrier that.
 
#75
#75
justingroves said:
Had class with Crompton when he had shoulder surgery. The brace he had to wear kept his arm over his head (bent at the elbow). The teacher always thought he was raising his hand to ask a question.
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So, what's the real scoop on JC, Justin... is he smart or not?
 
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