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#576
#576
therealUT said:
I will not argue with your contextual assessment; this is why I point out the "literal contradictions" as compared to "allegorical truth". I think there is a lot of allegorical truth in the Bible, the Koran, the Upanishads, the Bhagavad-Gita, the Iliad, and the Odyssey.

I think there are individuals who want to label me as Bible-hating; I do not hate the Bible, I think it is a compendium of great literary merit and is filled with a lot of truth. I just do not think it ever should, nor ever could, be taken literally.
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I'm good with that. so what did you think of the source document argument?

While this is a difference in reading should we not expect this due to the books having 3 different authors. If it were not for these minor inconsistencies we would conclude it was from only one point of view copied from an original source?
 
#577
#577
orangeslice13 said:
I'm good with that. so what did you think of the source document argument?

While this is a difference in reading should we not expect this due to the books having 3 different authors. If it were not for these minor inconsistencies we would conclude it was from only one point of view copied from an original source?
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I think that if the entire compendium is directly inspired by divine revelation then there should be no literal contradictions between individual books, if the Bible is to be taken literally.

If you say that there are literal contradictions because the writers were human and humans are imperfect, then you remove the "revelatory" authority of the Bible.
 
#579
#579
therealUT said:
I think that if the entire compendium is directly inspired by divine revelation then there should be no literal contradictions between individual books, if the Bible is to be taken literally.

If you say that there are literal contradictions because the writers were human and humans are imperfect, then you remove the "revelatory" authority of the Bible.
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If you factor in the intended audience do these literal contradictions not disappear. The four Gospels were written to four different audiences. Would the change in culture and language nuances not account for these perceived contradictions.
for example here in the south we say "bless his heart". It means he's stupid. That might not translate in the north even though we both speak English.
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#583
#583
orangeslice13 said:
First of all Heaven is never described as a cube. You asked about Heaven being a cube and I repeated it.The reality is in Revelations 21, its the New Jerusalem being described as coming down from the new Heaven to the new Earth. I am very disappointed in both of us for not catching that. Furthermore therealut should have been all over that. we must have all been tired

Now back to the cube thing. You must take into account the intended audience when reading ancient literature. In Rev.21, 9 the word causing the confusion is "square" or "foursquare" depending on which translation you are reading. in the original language the word is "Nadab". Nadab means bottom, base, or root. In terms of construction it was traditionally used to mean square foundation. In other literature of the time the method of describing the great pyramid was to say it had a square foundation with its length and berth being equal. the the peak was said to match as well. people reading this description 1800yrs ago would have understood this is a pyramid. If you feel like looking you will find cube construction of the time was described with both base and roof and their measurement.
It is reasonable to assume that the new Jerusalem is being described as a pyramid.
Hope this helps.
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not the passage I was refering, but ok
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#585
#585
OrangeEmpire said:
So slice and pkt r alters, if not the same person?
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I'd hope not. If so, I have a kid that I don't know about that is already half my age. Don't get me wrong, I had a wicked good time a UT...but not that good lol
 
#586
#586
PKT_VOL said:
I'd hope not. If so, I have a kid that I don't know about that is already half my age. Don't get me wrong, I had a wicked good time a UT...but not that good lol
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You'd have a 6th grade and 10th grade kid. They would also need shoes.
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